If UK beats Ole Miss, NC St beats Clemson and Iowa beats Michigan

[HerrosHeroes]

UK would crack the AP top 5 for the first time in nearly 60 yrs (circa 1964)!

How many couches would get burned and how many cars would get flipped Sat night on State Street?
Ill set the over/under at 7.
Would the national guard have to be called in?
Also, How many babies would be conceived and the males eventually named Mark and the females be named Markette?
Ill set the over/under on that one at 150 each.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I would think there will be no cars available to flip on Saturday on State. People can’t be that stupid can they?

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

Is this the most important game of Mark Stoops career?

 

[mrschwump]

Jerry Claiborne's old "iffin" game.

 

[Bluegrass79]

We have a super great shot at being ranked number two or number three or number four when we play Georgia.
We even have a great shot at losing to GA and still making the playoff assuming Georgia screws up somehow.

But the rebels and volunteers are standing in Kentucky's way. And Kentucky has a better roster than both of those teams top to bottom. Fact.
More five stars more four stars. More winning streaks. More winning players, more winning plays. Over last 4 years.

Kentucky is a four-time defending bowl champion. Tennessee and Ole Miss are not.

 

[cathouse]

I will settle for one out of three and be very happy.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Is this the most important game of Mark Stoops career?

To be perfectly Frank yes it is.
Then UT would be.
Then Georgia would be.
Then Alabama would be.
Then the NCAA Semi final opponent would be.
Then the NCAA Championship Opponent would be.

This way you dont have to ask all season.

 

[SECCountry75]

To be perfectly Frank yes it is.

Of course it isn't. You must be very young.

 

[The-Hack]

Of course it isn't. You must be very young.

I think it is. It is the next game, and the next game is always the most important.

But given our and the Rebels/Bears/unspeakable combined rankings, it’s a pretty darn big game.

 

[The-Hack]

Also, How many babies would be conceived and the males eventually named Mark and the females be named Markette?

Lol!

Maybe a few Levis’s too . . . .

And I always though Rodriguez would make a bitchin’ middle name!!

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Of course it isn't. You must be very young.

I wish I was but my goodness Stoops has only been coaching at UK for 10 yrs. This game is monumental for soooooo many reasons but you apparently know it all anyway so I wont expound.

 

[SECCountry75]

I think it is. It is the next game, and the next game is always the most important.

But given our and the Rebels/Bears/unspeakable combined rankings, it’s a pretty darn big game.

In the sense that you are describing it, yes, the next game is always the most important. One game at a time is another way to put it.

But this thread implies UK-OM is our program's most important game in a historical sense. It is not. Not even close. And that isn't to say this game is not important. In the context of this season, UK-OM is probably the third most important game on the schedule behind UGA and UT. Now someone can make the case that UK-OM is uniquely important because of our national ranking. But a team's ranking in September or early October is not a determinant of which bowl game they get invited to, or even what the ranking will be a month from now. This is an important game, but the OP is crying wolf in the sense that he describes several games a year as "most important". I do appreciate the excitement behind this hysteria though. It is good to be winning and ranked.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

We have a super great shot at being ranked number two or number three or number four when we play Georgia.
We even have a great shot at losing to GA and still making the playoff assuming Georgia screws up somehow.

But the rebels and volunteers are standing in Kentucky's way. And Kentucky has a better roster than both of those teams top to bottom. Fact.
More five stars more four stars. More winning streaks. More winning players, more winning plays. Over last 4 years.

Kentucky is a four-time defending bowl champion. Tennessee and Ole Miss are not.

I think you need to look up super great and temper your expectations a bit. Winning at both ole miss and tn are not likely on paper. I think there is a slim, certainly not great, chance it happens.

 

[Backer cutter]

In the sense that you are describing it, yes, the next game is always the most important. One game at a time is another way to put it.

But this thread implies UK-OM is our program's most important game in a historical sense. It is not. Not even close. And that isn't to say this game is not important. In the context of this season, UK-OM is probably the third most important game on the schedule behind UGA and UT. Now someone can make the case that UK-OM is uniquely important because of our national ranking. But a team's ranking in September or early October is not a determinant of which bowl game they get invited to, or even what the ranking will be a month from now. This is an important game, but the OP is crying wolf in the sense that he describes several games a year as "most important". I do appreciate the excitement behind this hysteria though. It is good to be winning and ranked.

Yeah, it’s an important game, for this season because it means, if we win, our goals are still achievable. But damn, I’ve been reading on this board for a few years now that every game is the most important game in Stoops career lol. No coach can live up to that in multiple years. Somewhere, sometime, we will lose, Stoops will lose. Doesn’t take away anything he has accomplished, even if it’s to a nobody team. I’m gonna chill and enjoy the ride, and if we lose to a team we shouldn’t, so be it. Obviously Stoops doesn’t coach for the accolades of this board, but if he did, he would have been in a mental institution by now. We are still on the rise. When or if that stops, who knows. I’m enjoying the hell out of it.

 

[yoshukai]

UK would crack the AP top 5 for the first time in nearly 60 yrs (circa 1964)!

How many couches would get burned and how many cars would get flipped Sat night on State Street?
Ill set the over/under at 7.
Would the national guard have to be called in?
Also, How many babies would be conceived and the males eventually named Mark and the females be named Markette?
Ill set the over/under on that one at 150 each.

We have a 5 piece sectional in the basement that my wife’s been wanting to get rid of. Just sayin.

 

[Chum83]

I think you need to look up super great and temper your expectations a bit. Winning at both ole miss and tn are not likely on paper. I think there is a slim, certainly not great, chance it happens.

I agree it isn’t a “super great” shot. That just comes with the cumulative chance of dropping games & how hard it is to win every single one. I do think UK is better than Ole Miss & Tennessee, but even if UK has a 75% chance of beating Ole Miss & a 65% chance of beating Tennessee, the chance of beating BOTH drops below 50%. If we just give a 90% chance against each of SC, Mizzou, & Vandy, & 70% against MS St, (I’m not going to do the math) but there is a VERY slim chance of getting to Georgia undefeated. The only thing that can change it would be each time we win a game (especially one of our more difficult games) the odds increase dramatically. That, and if we see the team play better (especially the OL & run game with CRod) to raise our percentages for future games (or at least my estimation of them).

 

[wildcatwelder]

No matter what else happens, Iowa is not beating Michigan this year, in this universe; not with that horrid, putrid offense of theirs......

 

[Deli owl]

We need more astronomical hypothetical questions.

 

[Backer cutter]

I agree it isn’t a “super great” shot. That just comes with the cumulative chance of dropping games & how hard it is to win every single one. I do think UK is better than Ole Miss & Tennessee, but even if UK has a 75% chance of beating Ole Miss & a 65% chance of beating Tennessee, the chance of beating BOTH drops below 50%. If we just give a 90% chance against each of SC, Mizzou, & Vandy, & 70% against MS St, (I’m not going to do the math) but there is a VERY slim chance of getting to Georgia undefeated. The only thing that can change it would be each time we win a game (especially one of our more difficult games) the odds increase dramatically. That, and if we see the team play better (especially the OL & run game with CRod) to raise our percentages for future games (or at least my estimation of them).

Good post. Can’t believe anyone (except HH) , really believes we get to the Georgia game unscathed. Is it possible? Sure. It’s also possible we drop a couple before. Still we have a good chance for a great season. One game doesn’t define a season, no way.

 

[southindycat]

Iowa beating UM this year? Nope.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

I think you need to look up super great and temper your expectations a bit. Winning at both ole miss and tn are not likely on paper. I think there is a slim, certainly not great, chance it happens.

Its bad enough that the national media and bookies are giving little respect to UK Sat. but it flat out sucks when our supposed fans do the same.
UK is top 7 nationally for a reason. The Cats have attained that ranking while playing without arguably the greatest RB in UK history who returns tomorrow. We have an elite QB who some are saying will eventually go #1 in the draft. We have 3 playmaking WRs, a ton of good TEs and a Defense that may end up being the best ever at UK. Ky is also led by the all time winningest football coach in UKs history.
Sure we are on the road v Ole Miss and UT but guess what? Ole Miss is full on cupcakes and we owe UT from last season. I know its hard for some of you to believe UK is this good in football but guess what? We are!
Think positive and get behind your team and stop doubting!

 

[SECCountry75]

Its bad enough that the national media and bookies are giving little respect to UK Sat. but it flat out sucks when our supposed fans do the same.
UK is top 7 nationally for a reason. The Cats have attained that ranking while playing without arguably the greatest RB in UK history who returns tomorrow. We have an elite QB who some are saying will eventually go #1 in the draft. We have 3 playmaking WRs, a ton of good TEs and a Defense that may end up being the best ever at UK. Ky is also led by the all time winningest football coach in UKs history.
Sure we are on the road v Ole Miss and UT but guess what? Ole Miss is full on cupcakes and we owe UT from last season. I know its hard for some of you to believe UK is this good in football but guess what? We are!
Think positive and get behind your team and stop doubting!

I have a tip for you, and you are free to discount it or call me whatever. Nothing that happens on this online board will have one single iota of effect on whether our team wins or loses. To think otherwise is naive. As long as I can remember, fans have been arguing over whether Rich Brooks was the answer, Stoops was the answer, Drew Barker was the answer, Beau Allen would ever be the answer, Joey Gatewood could be the answer, etc, etc, etc. Throughout all of that, the majority on this board have been negative until recently. I can remember when lots of fans said getting invited to bowl games was not necessarily evidence that our football team was getting better. I remember when a bunch of our fans wanted Stoops to be fired and Leach or Petrino to be hired. We have a couple of fruitcakes on here who are still convinced Mitch Barnhart has been bad for football. There are some very hardheaded fans who do not necessarily comprehend the mechanics of building a football team, even when they are convinced they do. And throughout all of this, Stoops just keeps building, recruiting, and winning. Now he has won more football games than any other Kentucky coach, and he has a 4 game winning streak in bowls.

This board is for congenial exchange of thoughts. At least it is supposed to be. We will always have our optimists, pessimists, and bomb throwers, because this is what these people are in their hearts. It does not make one bit of difference for the outcome of the next game.

But you are smart to be an optimist. For one thing, you are right about the general direction of our football program. Also, I think it is better for your health.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

I have a tip for you, and you are free to discount it or call me whatever. Nothing that happens on this online board will have one single iota of effect on whether our team wins or loses. To think otherwise is naive. As long as I can remember, fans have been arguing over whether Rich Brooks was the answer, Stoops was the answer, Drew Barker was the answer, Beau Allen would ever be the answer, Joey Gatewood could be the answer, etc, etc, etc. Throughout all of that, the majority on this board have been negative until recently. I can remember when lots of fans said getting invited to bowl games was not necessarily evidence that our football team was getting better. I remember when a bunch of our fans wanted Stoops to be fired and Leach or Petrino to be hired. We have a couple of fruitcakes on here who are still convinced Mitch Barnhart has been bad for football. There are some very hardheaded fans who do not necessarily comprehend the mechanics of building a football team, even when they are convinced they do. And throughout all of this, Stoops just keeps building, recruiting, and winning. Now he has won more football games than any other Kentucky coach, and he has a 4 game winning streak in bowls.

This board is for congenial exchange of thoughts. At least it is supposed to be. We will always have our optimists, pessimists, and bomb throwers, because this is what these people are in their hearts. It does not make one bit of difference for the outcome of the next game.

But you are smart to be an optimist. For one thing, you are right about the general direction of our football program. Also, I think it is better for your health.

Make alot of great points and being positive is a good thing when realistic. definitely not the nature of most critical thinkers though and OP comes off like a syncophant alot of the time or like he is paid off by someone close to the program to spread positivity..... There is a such thing as "toxic positivity". I like being positive about the direction of things but let's try to be realistic here. We all know the oline sucks and there are alot of injured dbs. It will be a challenge to win on Saturday and after the subpar performance against Mac and fcs competition Kentucky deserves to be under dogs here. That being said another week of working to get things right in practice can always show improvement. This game could go either way.

 

[SECCountry75]

Make alot of great points and being positive is a good thing when realistic. definitely not the nature of most critical thinkers though and OP comes off like a syncophant alot of the time or like he is paid off by someone close to the program to spread positivity..... There is a such thing as "toxic positivity". I like being positive about the direction of things but let's try to be realistic here. We all know the oline sucks and there are alot of injured dbs. It will be a challenge to win on Saturday and after the subpar performance against Mac and fcs competition Kentucky deserves to be under dogs here. That being said another week of working to get things right in practice can always show improvement. This game could go either way.

As I understand it, Kentucky has been a 4-6 point dog all week. I suppose that is about right, in that it reflects the home field advantage and the absence of Weaver. It shapes up as a one score game, meaning the team that plays a clean second half should win. We can win it, but we need a strong day from our defense.

I am not buying the "our Oline sucks" stuff. Losing Kinnard and Fortner has been tough, and this Oline will not be as good as last year. I will go that far. But this Oline is being asked to do some things that were not in the game plan last year under Coen. I bet this Oline improves over the next month. It might not be recognized as a "team strength" but it can develop some chemistry and play better. I think it will. If it doesn't, then Yenser will face some justified questioning.

I don't know if positivity can be toxic, but HH is pushing the envelope sonetimes. Still I would rather read HH's deliriously optimistic posts than the relentlessly negative stuff that comes forth from the Barnhart and Stoops haters. On the whole, optimism is a good thing, and Stoops has lived up to it. That may not be enough this week, but we are not going to win every road game in which we are dogs. We win more of those than any previous Kentucky coach did by far. Things are good, and things are getting better.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

As I understand it, Kentucky has been a 4-6 point dog all week. I suppose that is about right, in that it reflects the home field advantage and the absence of Weaver. It shapes up as a one score game, meaning the team that plays a clean second half should win. We can win it, but we need a strong day from our defense.

I am not buying the "our Oline sucks" stuff. Losing Kinnard and Fortner has been tough, and this Oline will not be as good as last year. I will go that far. But this Oline is being asked to do some things that were not in the game plan last year under Coen. I bet this Oline improves over the next month. It might not be recognized as a "team strength" but it can develop some chemistry and play better. I think it will. If it doesn't, then Yenser will face some justified questioning.

I don't know if positivity can be toxic, but HH is pushing the envelope sonetimes. Still I would rather read HH's deliriously optimistic posts than the relentlessly negative stuff that comes forth from the Barnhart and Stoops haters. On the whole, optimism is a good thing, and Stoops has lived up to it. That may not be enough this week, but we are not going to win every road game in which we are dogs. We win more of those than any previous Kentucky coach did by far. Things are good, and things are getting better.

Hoping oline shows improvement and think they will. This is not the same offense and scheme as last year. Will take time to gel. That being said, the number of sacks given up is downright scary and inexcusable. What will happen to this team if levis breaks his leg?

 

[trueblujr2]

To be perfectly Frank yes it is.
Then UT would be.
Then Georgia would be.
Then Alabama would be.
Then the NCAA Semi final opponent would be.
Then the NCAA Championship Opponent would be.

This way you dont have to ask all season.

Can't assume victory in all those games between all those matchups. If we win Saturday, every game is the biggest game going forward.

 

[LCFOOTBALLDAD]

I would think there will be no cars available to flip on Saturday on State. People can’t be that stupid can they?

You would be surprised !

 

[calismyhero]

I think you need to look up super great and temper your expectations a bit. Winning at both ole miss and tn are not likely on paper. I think there is a slim, certainly not great, chance it happens.

You need to call a priest to exorcise those demons out of your soul dude. This ain’t Freddie Maggard or Pookie Jones we have at Quarterback son. He’s every bit as good as any quarterback out there. Notre Dame would drool all over him. And that doesn’t include our defense. It’s a good thing we play the games and don’t go by paper tigers. I’m older, I’ve seen a lot of teams, this team is hungry to compete against anybody that lines up across from them. They concede nothing, just like their coaches. I’ll guarantee you 24 hours from now, Mississippi will be in a fight for their lives. As for Tennessee? They will be 5-2 by the time we come knocking so let’s not anoint them just yet.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

UK would crack the AP top 5 for the first time in nearly 60 yrs (circa 1964)!

How many couches would get burned and how many cars would get flipped Sat night on State Street?
Ill set the over/under at 7.
Would the national guard have to be called in?
Also, How many babies would be conceived and the males eventually named Mark and the females be named Markette?
Ill set the over/under on that one at 150 each.

That's very possible, but in NCST beats Clemson it's the best win of the year and they could make the big jump with a win over number 5

 

[HerrosHeroes]

That's very possible, but in NCST beats Clemson it's the best win of the year and they could make the big jump with a win over number 5

They would be 6 behind UK imho as UK would have won at #14 Ole Miss.
You are correct though Grump and Final Scores could dictate.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Just so you know, I don't think they beat Clemson without at least plus 3 in turnovers.

And number 7 winning at number 12 is a good win on anyone's book, but it isn't the level of number 10 winning at number 5, if the pulled it off. If state beat CU where do you think they should end up?

 

[CB3UK]

I do have UK winning and NC State taking down Clemson. I don't see Iowa taking Michigan. Their offense is horrendous. Michigan has looked solid IIRC.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Just so you know, I don't think they beat Clemson without at least plus 3 in turnovers.

And number 7 winning at number 12 is a good win on anyone's book, but it isn't the level of number 10 winning at number 5, if the pulled it off. If state beat CU where do you think they should end up?

6 because right now its still fairly early.
Keep in mind that UK is 3 spots ahead of them as is. We beat #14 on the road and State beats #5 it will be extremely close.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I think UK wins by 2 scores, I think State gets smoked, they lucky to not have at least 1 loss.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

6 because right now its still fairly early.
Keep in mind that UK is 3 spots ahead of them as is. We beat #14 on the road and State beats #5 it will be extremely close.

Fair enough, you could be right too, but a win against a top 5 on the road is an attention getter.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

I think UK wins by 2 scores, I think State gets smoked, they lucky to not have at least 1 loss.

Yeah Id rather have FSU upset Clemson in Tally because no way FSU would jump UK.
It would be very ironic too if that happens because the last time UK was in the top 5 in AP poll was 1964 and FSU knocked the Cats out and they havent been back since. Can you imagine the irony if FSU upset #5 or even higher Clemson to help UK back into the top 5 nearly 60 yrs after they booted us out ?

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I thought FSU was still an all female school 60 years ago. My first memory of FSU was their circus.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

I thought FSU was still an all female school 60 years ago. My first memory of FSU was their circus.

Nope. It wasnt too much before then though.

 

[Bereacat420]

UK would crack the AP top 5 for the first time in nearly 60 yrs (circa 1964)!

How many couches would get burned and how many cars would get flipped Sat night on State Street?
Ill set the over/under at 7.
Would the national guard have to be called in?
Also, How many babies would be conceived and the males eventually named Mark and the females be named Markette?
Ill set the over/under on that one at 150 each.

And if Arkansas beats Bama, Missouri beats UGA, Rutgers beats OSU, and ASU beats USC you will be crying because UT will be made #1. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[HerrosHeroes]

And if Arkansas beats Bama, Missouri beats UGA, Rutgers beats OSU, and ASU beats USC you will be crying because UT will be made #1. 🤣🤣🤣

Yeah I didn't go any higher than 11 point dogs.