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If Coen takes the Rams OC job....who is your perfect candidate? I'll start...

Timing. Remember at that point, iirc, it was after he'd just installed 3 offenses in one single season. One for Terry (who looked good before injury), one for Sawyer Smith, and one for Lynn Bowden. Alot of fans don't appreciate exactly what level of genius it takes to install offenses on the fly and have them work well. Its just insane.

When he left here, all indications were a mutual split to let the program get a fresh face, for fans and recruiting. Sadly many fans really focused alot of vitriol his way, when it should've been focused on the worthless hinshaw and on the completely putrid performance of Wilson. Especially considering Gran coached the second half of that last season on his own after the Mizzou game. The offense was such an albatross in recruiting, they were in a vicious cycle, there really needed to be a change given the level of interest in the position
God, I forgot about Hinshaw. Thanks for the awful reminder. Haha
 
How old is Hal Mumme?? Just kidding.

Question is does Stoops go to the NFL for another QB coach or go to maybe a lower level D1 school with a hot OC and bring them in. Guess we’ll find out.
 
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Well in reference to the OP, I wouldn't be totally opposed to Joker for a couple of reasons.

1) He was one of the better OCs we've had. Specifically in the passing game design, play calling, and executing on game day.

2)He's a good-skill position recruiter, developer, and coach. We've had a great surge in talent under CMS, but we ain't had no Randall Cobbs, Tamme's, Stevie Johnsons, Keenen Burton's, or Dicky Lyons. Thanks in large part to that, we haven't had QB sniff Woodson's production either.

When you think about it, we really saw a drop-off in WR production and overall talent post Joker. Nobody got a thousand yards until Wandale. Have been very inconsistent and unproductive at QB too until Levis.

I know Joker is a sore topic because of his HC tenure, but he was simply not ready for that. I don't totally blame him, he wasn't ready and the program wasn't ready nor in a position for a younger inexperienced guy to have success. I put a lot of that on brass for not giving Brooks more to work with and getting him to stick around a bit longer. Joker was actually getting some sniffs from bigger programs for OC. I've always maintained that the plan should have been appease Brooks and tell Joker to go get some reps as OC at a bigger program, or maybe HC at a small program for a few years and then come back.

But I digress, I'm not beating the drums for Joker and I get that it is highly unlikely due to history, but I'd take him over just about every OC we've had since he left town save Coen.
 
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Eddie Gran, did you see what he did at Cincy?
 
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How old is Hal Mumme?? Just kidding.

Question is does Stoops go to the NFL for another QB coach or go to maybe a lower level D1 school with a hot OC and bring them in. Guess we’ll find out.

Great question. As good as coen is on GameDay, imo he's even better the other days. QBs and especially wrs took a gigantic stride. A wildcat QB will now push for a first round draft spot. A gadget player turned into one of the best wrs/route runners in the nation. Even DeMarcus Harris started to look good, when he looked completely awful his freshman year.
 
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We didn't want to believe it because it wasn't true. We even know the details of the deal. Pretty clear the plan was to hire gran and demote coley.

Now maybe they had to hire him as te coach while processing coleys demotion, then move him up. So the official initial job offer was TE coach. That's entirely possible. But the true position he was being hired for was oc.

You are so wrong, Coley was just hired as OC when UT stopped in and stole Chaney. No one knew how bad he was and he turned out bad.. If anything should tell you Kirby wouldn't offer him its he doesn't recruit well enough.
 
Doubt it. How often has a fired OC came back and OC’d at the same school? Fans would melt down.

Or any coordinator.
I don’t think it’s a wise move but I also don’t think Gran was terrible while he was here. Wasn’t great either but he did ok with what he had to work with. The Bowden QB offense might have been the best OC job I’ve seen in a long time. To completely revamp his entire O on a bye week and go on to win 9 games was crazy to me. Not many OCs could have pulled that off. I don’t think I’d be for bringing Gran back to replace Coen but I would take it if a sure fire upgrade wasn’t available.
 
I don’t think it’s a wise move but I also don’t think Gran was terrible while he was here. Wasn’t great either but he did ok with what he had to work with. The Bowden QB offense might have been the best OC job I’ve seen in a long time. To completely revamp his entire O on a bye week and go on to win 9 games was crazy to me. Not many OCs could have pulled that off. I don’t think I’d be for bringing Gran back to replace Coen but I would take it if a sure fire upgrade wasn’t available.
I’ll name my kids after Terry. Cold blooded assassin.
 
Right,... I bet when they OFFERED HIM THE JOB they never did it by signing telegram or an airplane flying a banner- or having Justin Timberlake offer the job by Cameo. Probably just a phone call saying will you take this position or something like that so yeah far less meaningful.

But if anyone thinks Eddie Gran would lie about the offer , I don’t think they know much about the man.
Do you really think UGA fans would of been content with an OC that just came off multiple years of a bottom 1/4 offense in the nation? Really. Gran is a great guy, but his offense was terrible here. Coen took it over one year and improved it leaps and bounds. We don't get Levis or Wandale if Gran is retained.
 
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Retire. Said he was getting married this summer and wants to focus on a family
He got his ring and that roster has a ton of holes due to all the "All Star" fantasy type roster moves upcoming.

1. The OLine is an obvious issue....Whitworth is done and they can't hardly run the ball or move LOS.
2. OBJ has an ACL and Robert Woods as well. Cupp has eons of miles on that little body as well. Not sure how well the skilled spots hold up.
3. If Aaron Donald hangs it up and Von Miller is just a situational pass rusher now at his age.
4. Jalen Ramsey.....I'll give you the big TD was offensive PI....but he's lost a step. Bengals threw at him with no fear.

And they have given away their drafts for years to come to obtain Ramsey and Stafford. I see LA going into major rebuild mode....the main thing they have is nice weather/stadium to play on west coast....but that roster won't stand long IMO...>I could see McVay wanting to hang it up and resurface elsewhere with a better long term roster to build up.
 
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