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I Wonder why Mulder doesn't get minutes.......

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Everything I heard and read about him was that he could shoot. Does he not play Defense or what. We could use another outside shooter right now...
 
His D is just terrible. When he is in you see that, but he does not play much so you have to really watch him when he is out there to see it.
 
Wait, you're saying that the summer reports of him being surprisingly athletic might have been overblown?
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Wait, you're saying that the summer reports of him being surprisingly athletic might have been overblown?
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SHOCKED!

Impossible. He has to be athletic because his youtube clips included cool dunks. Youtube clips are the most trusted source in basketball. .
 
His D is just terrible. When he is in you see that, but he does not play much so you have to really watch him when he is out there to see it.

I agree, his D is lacking, but against UCLA, it probably couldn't have been any worse than everyone else's, and we did need a shooter.
 
Well, we can all take the goofy narrative some have for Derek Willis and say "how is he supposed to get better at defense when he doesn't get enough minutes???? Let him play!!!!"

There are apparently enough minutes for everyone on the roster to play and play enough to work out the kinks, right?
:rolleyes:
 
I agree, his D is lacking, but against UCLA, it probably couldn't have been any worse than everyone else's, and we did need a shooter.

Let's hope whhs22 doesn't stop by and give you a lecture on how this philosophy is ridiculous, and deserving of an extreme tongue lashing. But I somewhat agree with you, in a given situation, it's probably OK to let a player play through a mistake or two; it will yield better results more times than not over the course of a season (in this case). This is basic team building philosophy. Cal does this repeatedly with those he knows are absolutely necessary (and well he should); however, my contention is that the 7/8 guys should get that luxury a time or two, for learnings sake. Carry on.



p.s. - if I thought this thread was serious and had legs, I would not have posted this; I know it could be considered a hijack. However, I believe this to be a rip from another thread just trying to poke fun at a few. I can appreciate that.
 
Well, we can all take the goofy narrative some have for Derek Willis and say "how is he supposed to get better at defense when he doesn't get enough minutes???? Let him play!!!!"

There are apparently enough minutes for everyone on the roster to play and play enough to work out the kinks, right?
:rolleyes:

No. There are not. But read my post above and you will see my thoughts. Not saying they should be on the court to work out kinks; but a guy like Willis, who may prove to be needed later down the road, should be allowed to play through a mistake a time or two.
 
Defense. As a JUCO player Cal recruited him to be able to hopefully step in immediately and be able to compete and be productive. If he can't then that's on him. Cal realizes he's only got him for 2 years tops, so if he's not ready then he won't play. When Cal has to invest a lot of time on a player then he'll focus on the freshmen. Same with Eloy when he was here. As a JUCO if you can't hit the ground running when you get here then you're probably not going to play much.
 
He has the dribbling ability of Alex poythress, passing of James young , defense of Kyle Wiltjer and is shooting like crap so far

Better question is why Floreal didn't play because at least he is a good defender. And this question is still crazy if that tells you where asking about Mulder falls on the list.

The best players play. Mulder probably should red shirt and just be a scout team guy this year
 
Well, we can all take the goofy narrative some have for Derek Willis and say "how is he supposed to get better at defense when he doesn't get enough minutes???? Let him play!!!!"

There are apparently enough minutes for everyone on the roster to play and play enough to work out the kinks, right?
:rolleyes:

Yep, this is something that has long amused me in these type threads. Some posters seem to have trouble grasping the basic concept that, for one guy to play more, somebody else has play less. Real question OP should address is this: Who are you moving to the bench so that Mulder can play more?
 
Yep he had 7 games to get to the double double level for many of the UK basketball experts.
 
Yep, this is something that has long amused me in these type threads. Some posters seem to have trouble grasping the basic concept that, for one guy to play more, somebody else has play less. I First question OP needs to answer is this: Who are you moving to the bench so that Mulder can play more?
Not only that but we were trying to mount a comeback. Not that it worked but I have my doubts Cal was thinking to himself "you know, I really need to get Mulder some clock".
 
Yep he had 7 games to get to the double double level for many of the UK basketball experts.
Gahhh it is like plucking toenails with you guys. Cal sees what these guys are capable of in practice. Mulder did not even start for his JUCO TEAM!! You're surprised he isnt getting mins on a top 5 D1 team? That's on you.
 
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Let's hope whhs22 doesn't stop by and give you a lecture on how this philosophy is ridiculous, and deserving of an extreme tongue lashing. But I somewhat agree with you, in a given situation, it's probably OK to let a player play through a mistake or two; it will yield better results more times than not over the course of a season (in this case). This is basic team building philosophy. Cal does this repeatedly with those he knows are absolutely necessary (and well he should); however, my contention is that the 7/8 guys should get that luxury a time or two, for learnings sake. Carry on.



p.s. - if I thought this thread was serious and had legs, I would not have posted this; I know it could be considered a hijack. However, I believe this to be a rip from another thread just trying to poke fun at a few. I can appreciate that.

You're right, and I hesitated responding to it, but I do believe there is merit in spot-playing someone, who fits a situation. Mulder may not deserve much pt because of his defense, but in this instance, a shooter may have been able to make a couple of threes, and allowed the other guards to drive to the basket, once UCLA's defense would have to come out and guard someone. I liken it to putting in a guard at the end of the game, who is a great foul shooter, but doesn't play good enough defense to play regularly. If you have a lead, and know you are going to get fouled, he serves a purpose at that point of the game.
 
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Gahhh it is like plucking toenails with you guys. Cal sees what these guys are capable of in practice. Mulder did not even start for his JUCO TEAM!! You're surprised he isnt getting mins on a top 5 D1 team? That's on you.


But, but, but...he can shoot!!!! He's a knock down shooter!!!

I swear UK fans have always have an obsession with supposed dead eye shooters and how they should play more. It's like the backup QB thing I guess.
 
Just to make sure I'm understood; I don't necessarily think Mulder should be getting minutes over anyone at this point; I do think that IF Cal decide to put a guy in the game, he should be willing to, at least occasionally, allow that player to play through a mistake before yanking him. Not everytime. Once in a while. Willis was given that luxury at UCLA, I would say it definitely showed in his confidence level that game. And he did have some production. That may prove valuable in games to come.
 
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Wasn't he JUCO POY? How would he not have started for his JUCO team if this weren't the case? I've seen that he is a defensive liability, so I'm not saying he should be getting a lot of PT. I'm sure Cal sees it in practice as well.
 
I was only posting this because of what I was reading and hearing about him when he signed. I'm not saying he should take significant minutes or is better than the guys in front of him. If it's his defense then fine, I was just asking a legitimate question. Damn.....
 
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He has the dribbling ability of Alex poythress, passing of James young , defense of Kyle Wiltjer and is shooting like crap so far

Better question is why Floreal didn't play because at least he is a good defender. And this question is still crazy if that tells you where asking about Mulder falls on the list.

The best players play. Mulder probably should red shirt and just be a scout team guy this year

He is 1/2 from the field this year. Not enough to say he is quote "shooting like crap" so far.
 
Wasn't he JUCO POY? How would he not have started for his JUCO team if this weren't the case? I've seen that he is a defensive liability, so I'm not saying he should be getting a lot of PT. I'm sure Cal sees it in practice as well.


I dont think he was POY... he was more like the 13th best Juco this year, but still on an All American team. I think it was at least half of the games that he did not start.
 
The only ones that know for sure why players don't get PT are the players and the staff. And the coach is not going to come out and say "player x doesn't get in because they are lazy in practice", or because they have a bad attitude. They give diplomatic answers to those kinds of questions. But fans have to accept that a coach is not in the habit of keeping players on the bench if he thinks they can contribute and help us win. When players don't get in, there is usually a good reason for it.
 
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Impossible. He has to be athletic because his youtube clips included cool dunks. Youtube clips are the most trusted source in basketball. .

What does athleticism have to do with anything? He is very athletic, but that doesn't mean he should play more. That's a bizarre aspect to point to.
 
Why doesn't Cal pick random people out of the crowd and play them?

Why doesn't Cal play the cheerleaders?

Why doesn't Cal have a lottery to pick the starters at random?

I miss anyone?
 
He has the dribbling ability of Alex poythress, passing of James young , defense of Kyle Wiltjer and is shooting like crap so far

Better question is why Floreal didn't play because at least he is a good defender. And this question is still crazy if that tells you where asking about Mulder falls on the list.

The best players play. Mulder probably should red shirt and just be a scout team guy this year

Ridiculous take. He hasn't played nearly enough to make those comparisons. And just to inject some facts, he is 1-2 from the field and has 0 turnovers and 2 assists.
 
So you think we should just throw away the B/W game and the two exb games? Did those not happen?

He had two bad games and one good one (for a reserve). Again, not nearly enough to make the claims you did. Booker started out 1-11 from 3 last year. Then he went thru a spell where he couldn't miss and then another slump. As my other posts show, I am not making the case for him to play more, just that he has barely played enough for fans to write him off.
 
He probably doesn't play because he's canadian we all know Canadians can't play basketball. Look at Bernard cote and sheray Thomas. Maybe he should go out for the hockey team.
 
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