Everyone assume Ulis is gonna be a 3-4 year guy. Think again. He's small. He's not going to grow, but he can certainly get stronger. He's a developmental prospect at PG and I wouldn't be shocked if he goes, gets drafted late in the first round and they give him 2-3 years to put on strength and refine his game. He's got things as a PG that you can't teach. If he was 6'1, 190, he would've been a lottery pick after his first year.
"I Think Tyler Ulis Will be in the NBA Next Year"
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based on this thread....
ulis is either a complete beast or just an average point guard.
cant tell.
ulis is either a complete beast or just an average point guard.
cant tell.
Those that are hanging on to the idea that Ulis will be back are LIKELY to be disappointed.
I hope he comes back, but like Cal, I am not counting on it.
I hope he comes back, but like Cal, I am not counting on it.
There's a huge difference between 6'1" and 5'8". Also, I am also not a huge fan of pgs 6' and under in the NBA. Not saying, I'm not a fan of Ulis just pgs that height in general.
https://www.numberfire.com/nba/news/2498/nba-draft-questions-does-height-matter-for-point-guards
how many 5'8" points were the starting point guard for national championship teams? i mean...how cares about the NBA right?
Seriously, who would be a comparison to Ulis in the NBA?
Great college point guard, probably gonna be a serviceable pro, but nowhere near ready or built for it.
No bash, and no over the top propaganda.
Great college point guard, probably gonna be a serviceable pro, but nowhere near ready or built for it.
No bash, and no over the top propaganda.
i like how you can project he will be a great college guard, a serviceable pro, but also not ready for the NBA all in one sentence.
by the way...why is he a GREAT college point guard?
Because I see greatness in him at this stage. He can already own the night.
I also see a serviceable point guard in the league on day.
I also see some limitations that could stop him from being a sophomore draft pick.
Tyler is taller than 5'8. He was 5'8 when he signed but grew shortly thereafter and had been holding steady. Not that it matters much, I just hate reading this 5'8 over and over knowing it's not accurate. Though he isn't 6' he also isn't 5'8 and likely a shade closer to 6' than 5'8.
coming off the bench...which begs the question...if ulis is soooo great in your eyes....why would he be a back up for 2 of his 3 years at uk?
It's not about draft stock with Tyler, it's about making and staying on a team.
I guarantee Tyler would jump at the same deal that Meeks got from the Bucks(2yr guarantee).
I'm sure that Tyler knows he's not going to be Westbrook but a career path similar to Bogans, Hayes, or Meeks will probably suit him fine and make him a lot of money.
I guarantee Tyler would jump at the same deal that Meeks got from the Bucks(2yr guarantee).
I'm sure that Tyler knows he's not going to be Westbrook but a career path similar to Bogans, Hayes, or Meeks will probably suit him fine and make him a lot of money.
I get what you mean. I'm just saying - at any other position, getting drafted at 8" below ideal height would be a total impossibility.
I think he will be a great college point guard. Key word, college. It doesn't really matter who starts at UK either. You are using old logic that doesn't apply to our team. Backups at UK can be lottery picks.
Ulis could also be a starter for those teams. There are many ways this can work.
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Although the answer is definitely yes, you are still missing the point. Unless an NBA GM is willing to draft him, he isn't going anywhere.
Whenever the subject of Ulis and the NBA comes up, some people name every player under 6 feet who ever played in the NBA. Using that logic, Dickie Beal should have had a long NBA career. Since 2010, Kentucky fans have become so used to players leaving early that some have blinders on now. It isn't a question of whether a few tiny players have played in the NBA. A few have, although they are exceptions. And it isn't a question of whether Ulis is a good basketball player. He is. But Ulis isn't going anywhere unless an NBA GM is willing to draft him. Some of you are kidding yourselves if you think NBA GMs won't find 60 players to list on their draft boards ahead of a 5-8 150 pound guard with a low release point. In the past, I have seen posters cite mock drafts that claim to list Ulis. This morning I googled 2016 NBA mock draft and looked at a bunch of them. Everyone has Labissiere, Murray, and Briscoe going in the 1st round. Some have Poythress in the 2nd round. A few even have Lee in the 2nd round. I'm sure someone will come up with a mock draft that lists Ulis, but I couldn't find 1 this morning. I think Calipari talks about Ulis leaving because he is recruiting Fox, Simmons, Monk, and doesn't want them to worry about playing time. All coaches do this. Ulis was good as a freshman, but being surrounded by 4 NBA lottery picks and 2 other draft choices had something to do with that. This will be another excellent team, but being 5-8 involves limitations. This is only about whether 30 NBA GMs are willing to invest a draft choice. Unless Ulis can get himself drafted, he will be back. The only way to solve this is wait till next June.
look up the UK draft combine measurements for last year. Ulis wo shoes measured 5'8".
He might as well written a poster for Fox to see! It's obvious who that comment was for. My man, Cal, always thinking! Always clocked in!
He has very clear limitations that put a ceiling on his worth at the next level. It is extremely unlikely coming back for another year will improve his position enough to make it worth it.
Ulis will have options, and will have to decide what is best for him.
One thing that might have him back is that he could probably graduate in three.
On the other hand, he will have more time to work on his game and get better if he goes pro. He may have to spend time in the NBADL, but at least he will be getting paid.
One thing that might have him back is that he could probably graduate in three.
On the other hand, he will have more time to work on his game and get better if he goes pro. He may have to spend time in the NBADL, but at least he will be getting paid.
I love Ulis as a player. But you are saying Ulis is 5-11, which isn't true unless he has grown 3 inches in the last 10 months. Even if he was 5-11, the problem is weight and strength. Last year Ulis played 23.8 minutes per game, 37 games. He looked tired in March. If Ulis was in the playing rotation on an NBA team, he would play 20-30 minutes a game, 82 games a year, against players 50-60 pounds heavier and just as fast. And if he can't make a playing rotation, then this is a moot point because he wouldn't last long. The real question is whether he can get drafted. The kid is a good college player, but I don't see it translating to the next level. If he pulls it off, that would be great.
I probably should have said closer to 6' than 5'8. No idea about how he will do in NBA. Hope he makes it, but certainly no guarantee.
