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I think the SEC made a BIG MISTAKE taking in OK and TX without

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... a bigger, long term expansion plan.

They pushed the bigtweleven into adding some big names to their conference, and opened the door to the ACC expanding as well. Now, the media hype is all about those 2 conferences. They've pushed the big tweleven teams up into the top of the AP polls and rejuvenated the rep of the used to be contenders among ACC teams as well.

What's gonna happen when those two conferences are spending more of their revenue on travel, while the SEC is limited to mostly the same travel footprint they've had for decades? What will happen to the Rose Bowl and the parade? Didn't anybody think about these things when they decided to expand?

We could've been playing Stanford and Cal in football each year and added an automatic perennial conf win to our resume, but now those schools are in the vaunted ACC, whose schedule will be even more padded than before. I don't know what the SEC was thinking... They've destroyed the entire college football landscape singlehandedly
 
... a bigger, long term expansion plan.

They pushed the bigtweleven into adding some big names to their conference, and opened the door to the ACC expanding as well. Now, the media hype is all about those 2 conferences. They've pushed the big tweleven teams up into the top of the AP polls and rejuvenated the rep of the used to be contenders among ACC teams as well.

What's gonna happen when those two conferences are spending more of their revenue on travel, while the SEC is limited to mostly the same travel footprint they've had for decades? What will happen to the Rose Bowl and the parade? Didn't anybody think about these things when they decided to expand?

We could've been playing Stanford and Cal in football each year and added an automatic perennial conf win to our resume, but now those schools are in the vaunted ACC, whose schedule will be even more padded than before. I don't know what the SEC was thinking... They've destroyed the entire college football landscape singlehandedly
Maybe. Brand and footprint still mean something. Rose Bowl was one game at the end of the year. Not 2 east coast teams going out west each week to play 10pm eastern games.

SEC still has a brand and connected footprint. People know what we are and we are at.
 
Maybe. Brand and footprint still mean something. Rose Bowl was one game at the end of the year. Not 2 east coast teams going out west each week to play 10pm eastern games.

SEC still has a brand and connected footprint. People know what we are and we are at.
Right. And at least in terms of football, SEC is still KING by a wide margian.

The SEC. IT JUST MEANS MORE. Not just a marketing slogan, it is the truth.
 
That's all a bunch of nonsense. The SEC hasn't expended more because it doesn't need to, it's the best conference by a large margin over all others combined. National recruiting and more money to do whatever they want. The media is just talking about all the expanding conferences cause it's news, wait till it matters and you'll see SEC teams leading the way as usual.
 
Your missing rhe main reason for expansion….it’s$$$$

And Oklahoma and Texas bring in so much money that the per school split is actually a bit higher with those two..and the conference is still somewhat geographically close for travel reasons

The ACC added Stanford etc…but rhe per school split of revenue will be a bit down as those schools don’t draw any better then. Unc Clemson etc
 
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When the playoffs began the bowl games basically became meaningless which is why so many guys opt out. Some of us older fans miss the tradition, especially the big 4, but there’s so many bowl games anymore that they’re meaningless other than advertising and adding a little more revenue to the schools. All about the $$ now, football that we grew up with is gone.
 
The SEC didn’t single hand idly destroy football. That may be the wildest take I’ve ever seen from a non Ohio State/Michigan/Texas fan.

If you really want to point a finger; the B12 mismanagement and kowtowing to Texas w favoritism killed the traditional conference.

The B12 constantly putting Texas on a pedestal at the expense of their other conf members and the “Longhorn Network” etc, unequal revenue sharing for TV deals and bowl games etc is what made Missouri, Texas AM, Colarado, and Nebraska all hit the road and depart on the first wave. And now the second wave of B12 departures is here bc Texas learned it wasn’t as profitable alone as they thought and them and Oklahoma happen to have the name brand as a life raft to save them and get them into 1 of the 2 thriving conferences while the ACC/B12 and dead P12 scramble to fill slots to survive


That isn’t even going back to the initial Arkansas departure from the B12. If there is a single conference where everyone is running from, especially when that conference was loaded w historically relevant teams and primed for national relevancy and success, then that’s a sign that something was broken within that conference to force everyone to look for greener pastures.
 
College football is better than ever and only going to get even better when the 12 team playoff starts and then expands again in a couple of years.

They will still have the bowl games for those pining for the old ways.
 
That isn’t even going back to the initial Arkansas departure from the B12. If there is a single conference where everyone is running from, especially when that conference was loaded w historically relevant teams and primed for national relevancy and success, then that’s a sign that something was broken within that conference to force everyone to look for greener pastures.
AR never was in the Big 12 nor Big anything. They left the Southwest Conference for SEC. At that point, the SWC fell apart by being reduced to an all TX conference.
 
What's gonna happen when those two conferences are spending more of their revenue on travel, while the SEC is limited to mostly the same travel footprint they've had for decades?
This is where I spotted Girthang’s sarcasm: what will happen is the other schools will bleed more money for coast-to-coast travel for games pitting Stanford vs. Duke, whilst the SEC racks up massive revenue and the nation watches Texas vs. Alabama for one-fourth the travel expense.

Girthang is right about one thing: the media spotlight has been on the PAC 12 and the ACC of late. Just do a word search for either and then words like “death,” and/or “demise.” I’m afraid the funeral-like-coverage of the PAC 12 and the ACC has dominated the news to the extent that the new profit margins of the new SEC has been pushed to the back pages!!

Girthang pulled a Hack on that OP!!
 
I haven’t done the math but those ACC that want out may calculate the cost for all sports to travel to west coast every year and learn their GoR is cheaper to pay.
 
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I haven’t done the math but those ACC that want out may calculate the cost for all sports to travel to west coast every year and learn their GoR is cheaper to pay.

Surely it won't cost too much, but it will be a hassle and yet another expense. It may be double the cost by the end of next year as well.
 
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