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I Think Bam Adebayo will return to UK

you had me until this. this is where your argument falls flat because it fails to acknowledge that there is no better place to "work on your game" than the NBA/D-league. so if its your position to come back and work on your game....why not work on your game at the best place to work on your game.

they argument you want to make is....stay one more year, be a kid, its fun, not ready to handle being an adult and the pressure that comes with being an NBA player. or academics is super important. stuff the NBA can't offer.
If he returns to work on his game and gets selected top 10 instead of late first round then I think staying in college to work on it is the better option don't ya think
 
If he returns to work on his game and gets selected top 10 instead of late first round then I think staying in college to work on it is the better option don't ya think
Sure, but that's not a realistic expectation. Next year's draft is pretty good too. At least at the top.
 
I think he'll go through the combine, get feedback, and understand that he can not only become a lottery pick but a top 5 guy as well. He has much he can improve upon. Starting with his hands
 
I think the folks who try to take a rational approach to these decisions by our players can validly argue on both sides for Bam.

Reasons to stay - draft position (outside of the lottery, probably top 20), lack of offensive weapons next year (Bam would be the early candidate to be the go to guy) and success of 2-3 year front court guys under Cal, specifically Terrence Jones and Willie Cauley-Stein.

Reasons to go - draft position (guaranteed to be a first rounder, take the $$$), get to the NBA a year earlier (a year closer to your 2nd contract, practicing every day against the best in the world) and incoming talent.
 
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If he returns to work on his game and gets selected top 10 instead of late first round then I think staying in college to work on it is the better option don't ya think
Not necessarily. He will test well at the combine and his draft stock will rise. He will be a top 20 pick. The only thing that matters in the NBA is that 2nd contract. I just don't think the risk is worth the reward.

That being said, selfishly, I would love for him to return and play his natural position, the PF spot.
 
Bam Adebayo will be a 2nd round pick if he does not leave.
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Sure, but that's not a realistic expectation. Next year's draft is pretty good too. At least at the top.
I think it a very realistic expectation. When he's engaged he is a monster. We started to see a little more of that at the end of the year
 
If he returns to work on his game and gets selected top 10 instead of late first round then I think staying in college to work on it is the better option don't ya think

no amount of improvement in his game will have him leap guys like bamba, ayton, porter and a few other guys. so to be in the top 10 as you say he would have to blow up. like 25 and 15 numbers but score in a ton of different ways, not just dunks. not very realistic and an unfair expectation for the kid.

right now he will likely go 20-25, if he did return and improved, at likely goes 15-20. so all you have to ask is that 1 year of going 5-10 spots higher worth the risk of getting injured? not really.

if cal was selfish like many other coaches, he would tell bam to stay and he probably would. but cal gets these kids for a reason, kids trust cal because he has their back.
 
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Are players allowed to go to the Combine more than once?If they are it would be foolish not to go very year
 
Actually I think it would be good for him to return. I fully expect him to go because of the money that is on the table but I believe he would have a better shot at successful career by returning.

Good for Bam, or good for you?
 
Yeah I could see him potentially waiting until after he gets feedback to make his decision. But smart money says the GMs are gonna love this guy.
 
I think it a very realistic expectation. When he's engaged he is a monster. We started to see a little more of that at the end of the year
Putting up bigger numbers wouldn't do it. He'd have to show skills he did not display during his time here. Unless Cal didn't allow him to do those things this year, he would have to improve so much that it wouldn't be fair to expect. Unless he comes out and proves he's got a legit perimeter game, his draft position improvement probably wouldn't be enough to make it worth it.
 
Odd post. Very odd post.
Not odd at all. Just wanted to stress that even though the original poster has a feeling that Bam is coming back, does not warrant accusing him of needing attention. I just wanted him to know I could see where he was coming from too.
Odd post. Very odd post.
Just saying I didn't think he was trying to get attention, but, feelings are fickle at best. Not to be trusted in most cases. However, if you're married and your wife doesn't feel good about a pending decision, she's probably right. Women's intuition. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
Not odd at all. Just wanted to stress that even though the original poster has a feeling that Bam is coming back, does not warrant accusing him of needing attention. I just wanted him to know I could see where he was coming from too.

Just saying I didn't think he was trying to get attention, but, feelings are fickle at best. Not to be trusted in most cases. However, if you're married and your wife doesn't feel good about a pending decision, she's probably right. Women's intuition. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
What you're missing Elliot, is that the original post was misleading and stated "bam returning to U.K." Which made me and many others think he had made a decision. No biggie on your end, just wanted you to know all the facts.
 
you had me until this. this is where your argument falls flat because it fails to acknowledge that there is no better place to "work on your game" than the NBA/D-league. so if its your position to come back and work on your game....why not work on your game at the best place to work on your game.

they argument you want to make is....stay one more year, be a kid, its fun, not ready to handle being an adult and the pressure that comes with being an NBA player. or academics is super important. stuff the NBA can't offer.

While I agree the D-League will get a player ready for the NBA faster than college.. I think you can still make the argument that a 2nd year at Kentucky, assuming he still has more to show, is better than being drafted 30th and being sent to the D-League.

It's all about the guaranteed contract.. 30th gets you 3 milly, 10th gets you like 8 mil.

Who's to say that Bam doesn't get lost in the D-League bopping in and out, which could all stem from not being quite ready for the NBA.

My whole point (which in fairness, you said you agreed with), was that coming back for a 2nd year as a top10 recruit, isn't some foregone bad idea that some are making it out to be.
 
What you're missing Elliot, is that the original post was misleading and stated "bam returning to U.K." Which made me and many others think he had made a decision. No biggie on your end, just wanted you to know all the facts.
Understand. I was being humorous more than anything else.
To be candid; I cringe when I see the " I got a feeling posts".
And, there are posters that do things for the attention factor and bait us into responding.
I've been duped several times.
Have a great day.
Tim
 
If you can get drafted in the first round, they only way it pays to not take the money is to be drafted in the top 5....then you are also one year further away from free agencies. It is playing with fire coming back, not a smart life decision!!!
 
While I agree the D-League will get a player ready for the NBA faster than college.. I think you can still make the argument that a 2nd year at Kentucky, assuming he still has more to show, is better than being drafted 30th and being sent to the D-League.

It's all about the guaranteed contract.. 30th gets you 3 milly, 10th gets you like 8 mil.

Who's to say that Bam doesn't get lost in the D-League bopping in and out, which could all stem from not being quite ready for the NBA.

My whole point (which in fairness, you said you agreed with), was that coming back for a 2nd year as a top10 recruit, isn't some foregone bad idea that some are making it out to be.

it is not a bad idea, but its not really a good one either.
 
He'll go.

Only chance for a returning key contributor is Briscoe, IMO, and I'm not even getting my hopes up for that.
 
No, there are more practical smart reasons to leave since he's a first round lock. Only people who don't think so are fans who want him back for their own personal gain. Those people will say "he can get better and help his stock" to that I say, he will get even better focusing on basketball 24/7 vs better players at the next level and although he could help his draft stock he could also hurt it especially via injuries.

I'd love for him to come back, stay injury free, and become a top 5 pick but I'm not going to lie and make some lame excuse as to why he should come back other than for my own personal gain of making UK better


Why? There's a lot of practical, smart reasons for him to come back.
 
No, there are more practical smart reasons to leave since he's a first round lock. Only people who don't think so are fans who want him back for their own personal gain. Those people will say "he can get better and help his stock" to that I say, he will get even better focusing on basketball 24/7 vs better players at the next level and although he could help his draft stock he could also hurt it especially via injuries.

I'd love for him to come back, stay injury free, and become a top 5 pick but I'm not going to lie and make some lame excuse as to why he should come back other than for my own personal gain of making UK better

There's practical and smart reasons for him to leave, too. No one suggested otherwise.

And he's not a first round "lock," despite what your "family friends" may be telling you. Virtually every mock out there has him at the tail end of the first round with a slight variance both ways.
 
I think the folks who try to take a rational approach to these decisions by our players can validly argue on both sides for Bam.

Reasons to stay - draft position (outside of the lottery, probably top 20), lack of offensive weapons next year (Bam would be the early candidate to be the go to guy) and success of 2-3 year front court guys under Cal, specifically Terrence Jones and Willie Cauley-Stein.

Reasons to go - draft position (guaranteed to be a first rounder, take the $$$), get to the NBA a year earlier (a year closer to your 2nd contract, practicing every day against the best in the world) and incoming talent.
If Bam is the go to guy next yr we are in trouble, just sayin
 
He should come back imo, nba mock draft has him going late first round. He'd likely be top five to lottery if he came back. He didn't play that well until the last month or so of the season.
 
He should come back imo, nba mock draft has him going late first round. He'd likely be top five to lottery if he came back. He didn't play that well until the last month or so of the season.

lol....fans always say this and are always wrong.
 
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