If you're getting pressure, why weren't they using 3 step drops and the shorter routes to move the chains. Like maybe the TE or Boom out of the backfield(my take). Oh Mr. Dawson, I have a question for you. Oh wait a minute, for over a half million a year, isn't he supposed to know that.
I think Anthony White got it right on the morning 630 UK talk show
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That is correct. What frustrates a d-lineman who is going after the QB is 15-20 straight plays of firing out of his stance only to have the ball gone before he has even come close to the QB. Why Dawson did not make adjustments is beyond me. If you are getting beat off the edge have a back help out by chipping the DE and then releasing into the open space. Have a TE on that side to help out, or roll the QB away from the pressure. With the read option we run it was obvious the ends were not maintaining and holding the edge since they never saw Towles keep it - the one time he did run he picked up 20-25 since they did not account for him.
I am seriously wondering if Dawson had any play calling duties under Holgersen at WVU or if he was just the OC in name only. Looks very unprepared and does not make adjustments. Every game we do well in the first half (gameplan) and second half we get shut down which is a result of teams making adjustments and coaches then making adjustments themselves. No TD's in last 6 quarters? Who do you blame? We have 4 stars coming in but not getting 4 star results. We have a supposed guru high performance S&C coach and system yet our oline gets mauled week in and week out with little size and strength gains to show for it with the upperclassmen - frosh get a break due to lack of time to develop. Might work for rugby but not working too well for football.
I am seriously wondering if Dawson had any play calling duties under Holgersen at WVU or if he was just the OC in name only. Looks very unprepared and does not make adjustments. Every game we do well in the first half (gameplan) and second half we get shut down which is a result of teams making adjustments and coaches then making adjustments themselves. No TD's in last 6 quarters? Who do you blame? We have 4 stars coming in but not getting 4 star results. We have a supposed guru high performance S&C coach and system yet our oline gets mauled week in and week out with little size and strength gains to show for it with the upperclassmen - frosh get a break due to lack of time to develop. Might work for rugby but not working too well for football.
In July, I predicted we would win 6-7 regular season games and go to a bowl. Yesterday we came within 6 points of being 3-0. Yes, it was a bad offensive day. Everyone knows that. But it was a really good defensive day too. Last week we beat Spurrier in Columbia. How many of you guys really believed prior to the season that Kentucky would go 4-0 in September? Be honest.
I still love our team.................just frustrated like many others that have been waiting so, so long....let's get Mizzou.......
I told my cousin before the season began that if we could split the first 4 games I would be happy. I was hoping that beating florida would be part of that but looking at the big picture we get mizzou at home next week. Their DB's aren't hargraves and tabor. Hargraves will be a top 10 pick when he enters the draft. Win next week then beat EKU and we are 4-1 with Auburn coming in. If we do this we will win 6-7 games this season. Yes I am really disappointed we didn't win last night but there are a lot more games to be played.
I get you're point but it was right there for the taking. When you have those opportunities, you need to capitalize. Period.
Seems like more often than not, we fail to capitalize when we really need to. How many times have you been to a big game at CWS with a lot of the line, the crowd amped up, etc., only to see us come up short.
Towles had an absolutely terrible game throwing the football, but I think the real issue is that the gameplan for this game was completely FUBAR on the offensive end. Florida sold out on the pass rush and we never made them pay for losing containment (with the exception of the one long QB run). It is easy to tee off play after play if you never have to account for a back or tight end in space. There were easy 5-7 yard completions to be had all night long.
I think at the end of the day we'll see that Dawson may not be the right guy. It may be that with a different QB, he has some more success. We will see later this season, I suspect.
I think at the end of the day we'll see that Dawson may not be the right guy. It may be that with a different QB, he has some more success. We will see later this season, I suspect.
To win in the SEC you need defense. This is the second week in a row the defense has come up big against an SEC team. If the defense shows up against Missouri, Kentucky has a good shot at a third win.
Would like to answer your question, but I run out of appendages before I get back to 2005.
I understand, but you also need to understand that two teams are playing, and both are trying to capitalize. Florida was just the one to capitalize in that case. The roles could have just as easily been reversed if Towles doesn't throw a pick that nearly went for 6, or if Baker doesn't drop the ball in the end zone, or even if we could gain 2 yards in the end zone. This game had just as much of a chance of being 17 - 7 Kentucky as it had being 14 - 9 Florida last night, but it went the other way. Just have to tip your cap and move on. It's one game, and the team is looking at Mizzou at home now.
The Florida game was just a reminder that we are still in the SEC. Although we see improvements in our recruiting, the same is true for nearly every SEC football team.
Our won and loss record is not changing very much, but we are playing teams much tougher. Some are suggesting that our coaches are not responding to changes our opponents make in 2nd half. I don't think you can blame any one coach for the poor line blocking, they have played well in the previous games, Florida was just tougher competition.
When you face a defense with the quickness and size of Florida, it isn't that easy.
Towles had a rough night, and did not handle the pressure very well. I would have liked to see Barker get some minutes in our previous games and get some idea of how good he is. He has already red shirted and is still sitting.
We may see some changes next week. Go Cats
Our won and loss record is not changing very much, but we are playing teams much tougher. Some are suggesting that our coaches are not responding to changes our opponents make in 2nd half. I don't think you can blame any one coach for the poor line blocking, they have played well in the previous games, Florida was just tougher competition.
When you face a defense with the quickness and size of Florida, it isn't that easy.
Towles had a rough night, and did not handle the pressure very well. I would have liked to see Barker get some minutes in our previous games and get some idea of how good he is. He has already red shirted and is still sitting.
We may see some changes next week. Go Cats
And I have a question for you..has Towles won us a game against a quality opponent yet?? Be honest.
How much longer can you rationalize the fact he just isn't accurate and is even less so when the game is on the line..
Some of you talk like Dawson is out there whiffing blocks and overthrowing wide open receivers
Don't agree. Dawson called a really poor game but yesterday was the first time I've had issues with him. If he does this 8 or 9 games per year the yeah it was a bad hire. One bad game not as big a deal. He was terrible last night for sure but for the most part I've really liked what he has done.
I really do not think it is Dawson' s play calling. I do not like to say negative s against our players but PT isn' t hitting the short passes. Not the slants just none of them. We just don't have a Short game.
LOL... Agree with your comment "NO WAY I GO WITH AN UNPROVEN OC... but in addition to that, lets not forget we also hired an UNPROVEN H.C. to take the helm of this program. Yes... and UNPROVEN HEAD FOOTBALL COACH.
SO far we know Coach Stoops is recruiting a LOT better than we've seen in a long time, but the performances and responses are starting to look the same:
a). "We did not execute on that"
b). "We will get that fixed"
c). "I'm not concerned about that"
Can this Head Coach MAKE THE CORRECTIONS and DOES HE HAVE THE DISPOSITION TO LEAD THIS TEAM? IMO, it's NOT about 'going to a weak bowl game'...it's about WINNING GAMES like last night.
NOT A HAPPY UK FOOTBALL FAN right now... and neither should our COACHING STAFF.
Agree with you. I must have said ten times to my wife "why aren't we making them pay for over pursuing in our backfield. Just dump it off over the rushing linemen to a back or tight end. Pros do it all of the time. Surely Towles can be accurate up to ten yards. I really don't get it. Over pursue and I will use your speed against you. Did we not have those plays in our playbook?
It's so obvious that's how we needed to slow them down.
I don't think we have the plays because we don't have a QB that can make the throws. UF brought a few blitzes that weren't disguised and they showed them early in the play clock, Towels eyes were way down field because he either never recognized it or didn't have anyone running hot routes.
I think we're all overreacting a bit. Funny how 2 weeks ago we needed a D coordinator to prove himself,and he's begun to do that. Let's give our young O coordinator the same chance to prove himself as well. Coach Dawson is not only Stoops's guy, he's our guy. Watching film, seeing what's available,and showing young tallent how to adjust to whats being done to them is the way to get better game to game.We may not have played well against Florida, but we still had opportunities to win the game!! Let's let Dawson and his young men work on things and see what they come up with; the results might surprise you.Don't jump off that bridge just yet, it's a long ways down from where we are, to where we used to be.
how many touches did CONRAD get.....oh' never mind Towles would have thrown theover his head...........
If that's all you can add to this board, please go back to the basketball forum.
Period? So it's that simple? This is competitive sports. A team wins and the other team loses. If we had won, Florida fans would be saying the same thing you are saying. The losing side is never happy, but some of our fans really don't seem to get these simple facts of competition. Now they are ripping our team and our coaches, but I see this happen every time we lose. I saw a lot to like from our defense yesterday. I want to win every game, but I never expected this team to go 12-0. As I said before the season, I still expect 6-7 regular season wins and a bowl. I expect to beat Mizzou. I never felt great about the matchup with Florida. If you did, then you are wiser now.
Simple answer, yes. I am not rationalizing when I tell you that football is a team sport. That is not just an opinion. I don't claim to be as smart as Coach Stoops, maybe you are. But I know enough about football to understand that teams win games, and teams lose games. A single player doesn't win or lose a football game. I know when I see a team playing well together, and I know when I don't see that. But you have already made up your mind, and I don't feel like arguing this.
So your answer is, "No, I can't name a game Towles has won for us, and I will continue to rationalize as long as I like."
I really think barker should be given a shot just to see what he can do. Why not? Look at what happened at South Carolina... Qb gets hurt, backup comes in and plays great. Towles does some things well, but accuracy ain't one of them!
DING DING DING DING WINNER! We must take victory when opportunity knocks. The loss should pi$$ off the UK fan base but all i see are two crowds:
1: the "close loss to a struggling power program is actually a win crowd"
AND
2: the "i never expected us to do better than 2-2 in the first 4 games so we are actually right on track" crowd.
We thrive on "silver linings".....and our FB expectations are shamefully low.
I hope our coaching staff starts to develop these improved recruits in to winners. Thus far they look like the learning curve is still pretty steep.....on the field AND the sidelines.
GBB! Beat the he!! out of the Tigers!!!!!!
Thanks for the feedback NAVYCAT88...
Just as you pointed out, there seem to be "two crowds" in our UK FOOTBALL FAN BASE... and very little high expectations.
Could you imagine WHERE our Basketball program would be right now if we had coaches and fans with THAT TYPE OF philosophy?
If we demand perfection in our basketball program... we have no less responsibility to demand and expect it in our FOOTBALL PROGRAM.
Just as you pointed out, there seem to be "two crowds" in our UK FOOTBALL FAN BASE... and very little high expectations.
Could you imagine WHERE our Basketball program would be right now if we had coaches and fans with THAT TYPE OF philosophy?
If we demand perfection in our basketball program... we have no less responsibility to demand and expect it in our FOOTBALL PROGRAM.
Outside of Toth, unless you have ol guys to replace the ones we have you are wasting your time...the defense is playing winning fb...our offense is not...ZERO tds and 9 pts in the last six quarters won't cut it...you cannot reasonably be impressed with what Dawson has put on the field so far
Umm... Yeah. It's that simple. If we make plays. We win. What is so hard to understand about that?
Do I need to spell it out for you?
You just pretty much said what I said. We have to make those plays if we want to win.
