I n fairness, I still see the tv money on March Madness as being of great benefit. Also the SEC tourney (except when uk tanks). I love how ppl refer to the SECT as a "UK Homecoming". No one else in the SEC gives a crap.
I really can't stand this mindset
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Remind you this what was said by one of the more prolific posters Son_ofSaul over there:
I agree with you. I give to the UK NIL, and they said it was allocated for the basketball team. If they start splitting my donations with the football team, I will stop giving.
I don't give a dog hair's worth of interest about the football NIL situation.
Give 90% to the basketball program, and let the football team go 2-11 for all I care.
Eff that guy. I don't care if he's a "paying customer" on this site.
If you see him on a game thread here, let that simp have it..
I agree with you. I give to the UK NIL, and they said it was allocated for the basketball team. If they start splitting my donations with the football team, I will stop giving.
I don't give a dog hair's worth of interest about the football NIL situation.
Give 90% to the basketball program, and let the football team go 2-11 for all I care.
Eff that guy. I don't care if he's a "paying customer" on this site.
If you see him on a game thread here, let that simp have it..
Name calling is the lowest form of intelligence and usually the product of being incapable to refute the point.
As a university, we are blessed to be one of the few that are the brand names of one of the 2 headline sports. I’d prefer not to lose that place on the Mount Rushmore of th secondary sport (in my op I directly said football was king).
“Mostly worthless” is inaccurate. Duke, UNC, Kansas, UConn are all national recognizable brands to average casual Americans purely based on Basketball success….the same applies to Kentucky. I’ve traveled the US and the World with my career. Without fail, regardless of where I am, people recognize the Kentucky brand and want to talk basketball. Overseas it’s usually KFC, Bourbon, Basketball, Horseracing. Basketball is also the bigger international sport and from Europe to Australia to Asia I’ve had people stop me to talk about my UK gear/basketball.
My point is, you don’t let that fade and take a backseat to other programs in the sport that you are widely recognized as the greatest program of all time when it’s as simple as shifting an additional 5-10% of non-earmarked (I.e. the budget that is flexible yearly and not the budget that is nonnegotiable and necessary to maintain current football operations) revenue allocation. The bulk of that should go to ensuring your flagship remains the pinnacle.
You can still be a top 25 football program and a top 5 basketball program. That 5-10% stretches further and has greater impact on the basketball program and is essentially a singular player in football.
95% of universities would KILL to be on the Mount Rushmore of either of the 2 major sports. We are lucky enough to be one of those blessed to be on one of those mount rushmores. Sure, we can prioritize trying to climb the uphill battle that is SEC/B10football in a small market state and become 20-35th in both sports but at that point you’re basically Mississippi State or Virginia Tech with no realistic shot for the program you cheer for to every win anything other than bowl games and s16s. 95% of fan bases hope and pray for a singular nationally relevant year out of 50 (essentially 1-2 in a lifetime) in either of the 2 major collegiate sports.
Don’t take for granted that you’re fortunate enough to cheer for a university that is nationally relevant in one of the 2 major sports every year….there are only 10-20 programs in the country that can say that.
And yes, the 2 major sports….Football takes half the year of national coverage….Basketball takes half the year of national coverage. The other sports are all played largely in the background of those 2.
I’d trade places with ND, Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, etc football programs that suck at basketball in a heart beat; especially as someone who has been inside the old Nutter practice facility playing a minimal grain of sand, practice only role. But that’s not how this works. I’m not willing to sacrifice our status as a Basketball elite to chase an uphill battle in the ultimate arms race of college football when we aren’t a big money market or donor base.
Again, you can be top 5 in basketball and top 30 in football at this university. Much harder to be top 5 in football here due to the financial obligations of football and our lack of instate talent while being surrounded regionally by ALL the traditional powerhouses. I’d prefer to not become one of the other 95% of college athletics that has no real shot at winning ANY national titles on a year to year bases and likely their, their kids, and their grandkids lifetimes.
If it makes someone an idiot for enjoying chasing titles and not being mid at both…then so be it.
That’s the entirety of my point. Basketball isn’t expensive comparatively. Ensuring that basketball isn’t outbid for anyone they truly want by Duke, UNC, Kansas, UConn is a drop in the bucket to the football program. Can have massive returns for minimal loss to the football programs current status of a 20-40 type program punching up to get into the top 16.
And you should be able to do that 100%. Any fans who wants to earmark their donation should absolutely be allowed to
That’s a fallacy argument.If that becomes the MO then Kroger stadium will become a ghost town, no one will even care to watch UK on TV. Lost revenue will be in the 10s if not 100s of millions to the athletics department. We'll see how good basketball does then.
The football team will remain a top 30 program in recruiting as it is now. We are talking about the difference in the recruiting budget for a single player.
Luckily Kentucky is one of the only programs in the nation where Basketball is completely self funded.
^^^that means every other program in the SEC is giving larger amounts of “football money” to their basketball program. And additional 1m shifting from football to basketball at Kentucky would still be less than almost every other Univeristy in the nation is taking from football to fund their entire basketball program.
You don't know if basketball will continue to win titles. NIL is less for basketball, so more donors can afford to invest in it everywhere.
The SEC is a different beast in basketball these days,, and football has competed in conference before against programs operating under the table.
From a nationwide sports perspective, winning basketball championships -especially in the 1940s and 1950s (we have 4/8 from then when the sec was a rec league, doesn't move the needle.
When it comes to my alma mater, I'd rather cheer on our top school/discipline programs than a basketball team.
You’re half right. It isn’t guaranteed. And that’s why you have to beat position yourself to continue the historical success. We average a title a decade.
But discounting the titles from the past as being irrelevant doesn’t hold water. Every brand name program in basketball and Football largely built their brands off of old titles from the 40-80s with the exception of UConn
Look I realize you're talking a small percentage shift in money. I get that. You haven't , however shown any condemnation for Son of Sauls comments (and those of his ilk).
Are you going to condemn the attitudes of some of our basketball only fans, or continue to come on here and plead basketball's case?
I’m not here to police anyone else’s opinions. I was here to clarify my personal position. There are plenty of basketball only and football only fans and I’ve personally never understood that and think it’s counter productive to both. I’m not a fan of that attitude in either direction.
I’d prefer to be successful at both the premier sports while trying to maintain goat status in the one we are in contention for goat status. Only about 6 total schools are in that convo football/basketball combined. It’s rare air
Also, just want to say, GOOD DISCUSSION ladies/Gents.
Discussion is healthy. This message board use to have plenty of great multi-faceted conversations but the last 5ish years often looks more like Twitter jr of emotional outburst and everyone being combative
Discussion is healthy. This message board use to have plenty of great multi-faceted conversations but the last 5ish years often looks more like Twitter jr of emotional outburst and everyone being combative
Oh my right off Glen Arven! I lived off Bullard. You cross 56th St, and it's hood city.
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There were a lot that chose other teams because UK sucked for too long (for them). Their anger and impatience are natural responses to their own abandonment of UK Football. I'm a Cubs fan and always will be whether they suck or not. Can't imagine dropping them for another team.
But if I had abandoned that, I'd probably be as miserable as some UK fans were when the team did well.
