They have a 15-1 record in conference but 9 games were against teams with a losing record and 2 other games were against teams with a losing record in their conference. What a freaking joke.
I know this isn't earth shattering news but Duke will be in for a rude awakening come tournament time.
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If we are being honest, so will the vast majority of the SEC. Some will be good enough to absorb the difference in the first round or two and make adjustments, but many will not be able to adjust when they are forced to play a completely different style of defense than has been allowed in the SEC and half their team is in immediate foul trouble. It is a detriment to our conference but those in charge don't seem to care or have any desire to change.
Didn’t bother us too bad in 2012 - did hurt us in 2010 and 2015 though.
I too think Duke will be hurt by the lack of quality teams played in conference. But man they decimated what I thought was a at one time good Illinois team.
Hope SEC shows up in March!
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With this take, stay consistent. If we are a 4 seed, which is most likely situation, we almost certainly will be in Duke’s bracket. When that happens, you shouldn’t change course and talk about how the tournament committee screwed us. You asked for it.
Theyre a lot better than they were when we played them regardless of who've they played.
Only 4 SEC teams made the tournament in 2012. Didn't affect us.
Only 4 SEC teams made the tournament in 2012. Didn't affect us.
Yep, some people remove their own heads from their torsos when it comes to Duke. I hate them too, but there will be 67 teams that do not want to play them in March. I for one, want no part of a round two.
The NCAA wasn't going to let us go 40-0 in 2015. One of the worst officiated games (2019 against UNC was awful) in the tourney.
Personally, I think people put way too much stock in overall conference strength when evaluating individual teams’ chances in the tournament. It seems like a lot of that notion comes from Gonzaga never quite getting over the hump for a national championship, but it ignores a lot of other evidence to the contrary. All those years of us being the only consistent threat in the SEC didn’t slow us down much. There’s also cases of teams like Butler and FAU making the Final Four out of one-bid leagues, and even Gonzaga themselves have a 9 year streak of going to the Sweet 16 that the blue bloods haven’t been able to match.
As much as I don’t like Duke, they pass both the eye test and the advanced metric test for being an extremely dangerous team right now. This “common sense” take that they’re going to get shell shocked by the level of competition in the tournament and fold early is probably fantasy.
As much as I don’t like Duke, they pass both the eye test and the advanced metric test for being an extremely dangerous team right now. This “common sense” take that they’re going to get shell shocked by the level of competition in the tournament and fold early is probably fantasy.
Obviously anything can happen in the tournament. But this Duke is absolutely elite regardless of what conference they play in. They have some of the best advanced analytics in quite some time and have the 2nd best Kenpom Adjusted Efficiency rating of all time.
Everyone here hates Duke and they’re annoying as hell, but this Duke team is incredibly good.
Everyone here hates Duke and they’re annoying as hell, but this Duke team is incredibly good.
They “appear “ to be . But I saw where they haven’t played a ranked team since Dec 4 . I believe they are good, just hard to say how good.
Hard for me to say. Should be a final four team but I thought the Bagley team and the Zion team were better and had a better coach. But like us , you guys haven’t been to a final four since 2015 . Amirigjt?
I’m certainly no Jay Williams fan but he said he was interested to see how the SEC fares in the ncaa tournament because the sec games are called completely different than the rest of the conference.
ACC projected to have 4 teams in the tournament this year .
Big East only had 3 last year, yet somehow UConn still managed to win championship.
Big East only had 3 last year, yet somehow UConn still managed to win championship.
I'm not sure yet they remind me of a lot of past Kentucky teams with good freshman but time will tell
I think Duke is up for an upset in the tournament, and I love it. Some team that is not supposed to beat them according to the ESPN lords will step up and take them out.
Been beating each other up minus Auburn beating everyone so it’s definitely going to be interesting to see how SEC shows out. I hope the SEC has all 4 teams in the final 4 with UK being one of those 4.
yes they will
no one will stop Flagg, especially if Knoppell & the guards are hitting their shots
Rest assured it will be a favorable draw. They will probably face a good high school team, a JUCO and a mid major to get to the elite 8
Meh....not gonna say that. They will get their usual favorite whistle. Have a cake region. Flagg is their golden boy this year.
I know the metrics try to account for the level of competition. I'm just not sure there's a good way to adjust for Duke constantly smashing bad teams. There's not a perfect way to quantify how bad Miami is when they're sitting at 2 wins in a historically weak ACC.
