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How much fun are you having watching Arkansas suck?

I must be watching a different Big Z than some of you all. He looks great shooting an open 3 or making the occasional backdoor pass but other than that he looks like an oversized toddler who can't guard literally anyone. He would have been better in Pope's system but right now he isn't half the player Williams and Garrison are.
He looks like someone who received little to no coaching last year and things haven't gotten any better. When will some of you stop acting like coaching isn't the reason why Z has not advanced as he should have. The kid is a typical European player who is being coached by a clueless idiot who has a well-established history of wasting kids' talents.
 
Your watching the real version of Z. I think people fell in love with his 16 minute debut against Georgia and for some reason still think he's some amazing player. His brother at Illinois is the better player.

For whatever marginal benefit we would get from Z on the offensive end this year, he would get absolutely eaten alive on defense and on the boards.
I see we have another one of Cal's excuse makers. It is never Cal's fault. After the first couple of seasons, it didn't matter who the players were, the outcome was the same. Now that he has moved on to another program, it is obvious that the program doesn't matter either. The common denominator for underperforming players is Cal. The players who did play well for Cal played much better after getting away from him. Z is a very talented 7-footer who would be killing it if he hadn't wasted his first season under Cal.
 
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I see we have another one of Cal's excuse makers. It is never Cal's fault.
I do not think it's never Cal's fault, but I do think it's not always Cal's fault. There seem to be very few things you don't jump to blame Cal for. At some point players need to be evaluated on their own merit.
 
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I do not think it's never Cal's fault, but I do think it's not always Cal's fault. There seem to be very few things you don't jump to blame Cal for. At some point players need to be evaluated on their own merit.
It is always Cal fault and you are one of the few who doesn't seem to be able to get it. I will make it easy for you. Cal sucks and he has no clue how to coach. I find nothing good to say about that lousy person because he isn't worthy of anything good to say.
 
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We had three clueless seven footers stumbling around last year, who’s fault could that be?
So Z has absolutely no agency on the basketball court? The fact that a year later he's still a skinny kid who can't play a physical game and gets thrown around like a rag doll is still Cal's fault?

If you go back and look at why a few of us said Z wouldn't have really made this current UK team any better, it has everything to do with his ability to play a physical brand of basketball. What type of games do we struggle with right now? Z would have been no help. Nothing has been said about schemes or how Z is being used or would be used by a coach.

We just put up the single most efficient offensive performance in all of college basketball this year. We don't need another guy who can shoot 3s on this team. We need a hard nosed guy down low who can out muscle his guy, make defensive stops, and grab rebounds. That's not Z.
 
When you make as much coin as Cal does and you brag about HOF status and you brag about putting a million kids in the NBA, at some point, you have to make sure your players and assistants are putting in the work.

The buck stops with Cal, it is his responsibility to make sure players are developing, if they aren't, then he needs to do something about it.
 
He looks like someone who received little to no coaching last year and things haven't gotten any better. When will some of you stop acting like coaching isn't the reason why Z has not advanced as he should have. The kid is a typical European player who is being coached by a clueless idiot who has a well-established history of wasting kids' talents.
He isn't being coached well AND he is physically weak as cheap toilet paper. Both statements can be true and are true. Same with Ugo, he still sucks with a different coach. Same with Marcus Lee. It's hard to compete when you are that skinny and weak.
 
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So Z has absolutely no agency on the basketball court? The fact that a year later he's still a skinny kid who can't play a physical game and gets thrown around like a rag doll is still Cal's fault?

If you go back and look at why a few of us said Z wouldn't have really made this current UK team any better, it has everything to do with his ability to play a physical brand of basketball. What type of games do we struggle with right now? Z would have been no help. Nothing has been said about schemes or how Z is being used or would be used by a coach.

We just put up the single most efficient offensive performance in all of college basketball this year. We don't need another guy who can shoot 3s on this team. We need a hard nosed guy down low who can out muscle his guy, make defensive stops, and grab rebounds. That's not Z.
Cal recruited him
 
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All you guys that say you don't watch, or pay attention to Cal, are either bullsh*tting, or you just simply aren't much of a cbb fan, because like it or not, Cal/UK/Arkansas is the biggest story this season.
No, it really isn’t. Not even close. But I’m among those who outgrew the whole schadenfreude thing in my 20’s. To each their own.
 
Cal is not one of our own. He is a traitor to the program. His arrogant attitude of players first was wrong and kept many other good players from coming here that would have helped us even more than some that he recruited. He was an absolute clown of a coach and it was by the grace of God we got rid of him due to that awful contract Mitch gave him. I hope he falls flat on his face at Arkansas and leaves in disgrace. Screw him.
Do I take it that you wouldn't want him back?
 
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He isn't being coached well AND he is physically weak as cheap toilet paper. Both statements can be true and are true. Same with Ugo, he still sucks with a different coach. Same with Marcus Lee. It's hard to compete when you are that skinny and weak.
Well, if he is so weak and skinny, why did Cal take him at Arkansas after seeing this worthless kid at Kentucky? It obviously makes you feel good defending Cal, so you continue on, but I am through with it and Cal.
 
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Some of you are ridiculous with your persecution complexes. He took players to set his new team up for success, not to purposely hurt UK. He also couldn’t force anyone to follow him to Arkansas. It’s also highly likely Pope didn’t want a single guy from last year’s team seeing as he put this roster together in precise way.

Why in god’s name would a coach not try to do things to benefit his new school the largest extent possible? Were you upset when he took Wall and Cousins from Memphis to UK?
I believe you truly believe the nonsense you put on this board. There is one poster who says basically Z is skinny and weak while you claim Cal took him to setup his new team for success. You guys appear really stupid trying to defend that bumbling idiot.
 
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Well, if he so weak and skinny, why did Cal take him at Arkansas after seeing this worthless kid at Kentucky? It obviously makes you feel good defending Cal, so you continue on, but I am through with it and Cal.
What in the world are you talking about. No one is defending Cal. Cal sucks and Big Z is soft and weak. They both suck at big time college basketball.
 
Yup, I watch all their videos, I love Fanta, he's a trip.

I also love Southeastern 16. I watched them last night and they spent a lot of time talking about Cal and the things he said in his post game presser. They couldn't believe he didn't have a shoot around.

I think everyone is starting to see what we have been dealing with the last 5 years. The guy is a mental case and the funniest part is all these media guys are saying he's a terrible coach without actually saying it.
Yeah Fanta is cool. I love his enthusiasm for basketball. He is always said good things about Kentucky. I can’t believe Goodman is not a hater now lol. It must have been all Cal hate because he even wore the UK hat after the Florida game lol.
 
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Yeah Fanta is cool. I love his enthusiasm for basketball. He is always said good things about Kentucky. I can’t believe Goodman is not a hater now lol. It must have been all Cal hate because he even wore the UK hat after the Florida game lol.
Yeah, Goodman is all about Pope and UK niw.

He talked about his relationship with UK not too long ago. He said the animosity came from Cal and he just decided to walk away from it. Cal pisses a lot of people off.
 
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Well, if he so weak and skinny, why did Cal take him at Arkansas after seeing this worthless kid at Kentucky? It obviously makes you feel good defending Cal, so you continue on, but I am through with it and Cal.
Well for starters he had no team and certainly no shooters. He’s also asshole enough to want to take with him the biggest Kentucky fan favorite remaining. It was a no brainer for Cal. It’s like people keep saying, two things can be true at the same time.

1. Cal is not a top flight coach
2. Big Z is weak as water, clumsy, and did not dedicate himself to improving his body/strength in the offseason.

I loved that kid too and rooted for him. But he’s done himself no favors. Some coaches are amazing motivators. But you know the saying about leading horses to water …..
 
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