It happened all night long and I don't recall any flags for it. IIRC they did it last year too. It's obviously an advantage.
How is this not offsides?
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Oooo you really got me there. I thought you guys were saying UK is irrelevant but here you are 2 days after the game on a UK board. 🤣
Amazing they come here seeking UK fan's validation.
Games over, should you have not moved on to the Georgia board by now? I mean geez, to each their own but I have never been to the TN board nor will I ever or any other team for that matter. We get it, your team is really good this year, congrats!!! Now **** off!!!!
I snapped that pic right before the ball was snapped. That was just one of several times they were lined up that way. This was also on the play that the guy hit Will low after he had thrown the ball and the ref grabbed at his flag but didn't throw it.
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U really think being 2 inches closer to the like is a significant advantage?
U guys are currently in a low cycle w OL and that’s the primary reason for your offensive output of 6 point s. It’s that simple , the OL isn’t very good
U guys are currently in a low cycle w OL and that’s the primary reason for your offensive output of 6 point s. It’s that simple , the OL isn’t very good
Significant Advantage no but it should be a penalty. The closer you are allowed to get to the offensive line definitely allows the defense to get penetration quicker. There is a reason lining up in the neutral zone is a penalty.
Yeah we are so irrelevant that they had a blackout, honored the basketball team who won rings last year, felt the need to try to rub it into our fans faces during said celebration that they won those rings and are still gloating 2 days later about beating an "irrelevant" team. Seems like they thought it was a pretty big game to do all that stuff.
If they are lining up like that consistently and not getting it called it’s up to the staff to address this with the sideline ref and have him watch for it. If still not getting called then just start having your players do the same. Of course we would get called for it then stoops could lose his shit and rightfully so. Too many times however he loses his shit over something and completely loses focus on the game and spends a whole series not coaching his team. Another fault of his.
I guess I can't tell for sure. Looking at the black line, I don't see where either players hands are touching the line. They are very close to it, but it doesn't look like they are touching the line that represents the line of scrimmage. Am I missing something?It happened all night long and I don't recall any flags for it. IIRC they did it last year too. It's obviously an advantage.
It doesn't have to be the players hands but any part of the body that is in the neutral zone. His head is over the top of the ball.
Well a rule is a rule.
Yeah.....and if Stoops isn't looking at film and noticing these things and bringing them up...then it's on him. Same with motion penalties not going called. You know Tenn is going to go hurry up...and if they are not waiting a full second from shift to snap....then get in refs ear.
So if his head is over, or touching, the line of scrimmage, it's off sides? I've never actually looked at the rule and what it says. I've always assumed the head could be above or over the line as long as their feet, hands, etc., that touch the ground are behind it. If that's the case, it's definitely off sides. And you are correct that they did it all night.
It happened all night long and I don't recall any flags for it. IIRC they did it last year too. It's obviously an advantage.
All night long, all year long. Ole Miss, MSU, UT all lined up like this all game. First and last thing the side judge is supposed to look for, so I'm guessing the league office says not to call it unless it's UK doing it.
Same goes for the coaches on the field, players in the sideline boundary, and either outside of the coaching box. All fkn game UT was there. One warning.
They called all the penalties they were gonna call against the UTV early and then figured they reached their quota.
Lol... Tell us you're a volunteers fan without telling us you're a volunteers fan... Does someone need to tell you that the NCAA, NFL, and SEC know it's an advantage BECAUSE it's been a rule for over 55 years?
Can't be much more ignorant about football than if you got a vol orange T tattoo or sweatshirt. (BTW, we didn't make up the rule about not paying players with bags of cash.)
The OL did enough against your team for Levis to have places to put the ball. The OC isn't very good, and it didn't help us that you knew our signals/plays better than even our OC did. You had every advantage and took it, while we blew every advantage we found, and didn't exploit any of the ones that were there.
You didn't happen to pay our OC anything before this game did you?
We threw 3 picks in an SEC game against a team that beat Alabama. That's about like chumming the water before you go swimming with fish oil lotion. Safe to say we gave you help we had no business giving.
It really is nice to know how much this game means to you these days though. Thank you for making us feel like a rival again. Pulled out all the stops in this one. Looks like we got some work to do before next fall
Length of the football is the neutral zone. No part of the defender can be in that space or it's a penalty. Encroachment, lined up in the neutral zone, or offsides. All 5 yard penalties and mean about the same thing.
Then there is no question he is off-sides in that picture. And like Creed said, they did it all night.
No. It's the officiating that needs to address it, and they have at different times. Didn't do any good.
Can't disagree with this, but I would be worse and get tossed if they refused to call games by the rules. Especially these that are so obvious and cut-n-dried. I'd fkn waterboy one of the zeebs and laugh as I stood over the piece of sht. They'd carry both of us out
Yep. It's not the first game and won't be the last. We were talking about it all game. Been talking about it for weeks. It's especially advantageous when they do it over the center and in gaps.
Flag should be thrown as soon as the ball is snapped, and the officials shouldn't be telling them when they're lined up correctly.
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They're also missing a ton of calls on offenses for not having enough men on the LOS, or covering up receivers making them ineligible. They've totally muffed it this entire season
Actually, the main reason that volunteer fans love to get on this board is to laugh. And laugh and laugh... not at all posts ,posts like yours
Kentucky has a lot more problems than worrying about the neutral zone. ….
Posts like the above are why many come here to giggle and laugh.
We have a slim enough margin of error as it is. Not getting penalties called for us and against us as in the phantom PI call where ball was not even close to being catchable only makes that slim margin that much slimmer. Don’t think anyone, or the OP, suggested this was the difference in the game or remotely close but we should expect obvious penalties to be called.
In general, I agree with you. There is a justifiable reason for the losing teams fans to complain about obvious missed calls . Also, in general, those calls tend to even out over time. But not always.
I had a long discussion this weekend with my two boys who went to LSU.
We agreed that the team that always complains about the referees the most is the losing team…
The team that wins , in general, does not complain about officiating nearly as much even though there may have been blown calls that would have favored the loser. …. For instance, in the Tennessee, Alabama game, Bama fans complained about the pass interference Call late in the game where they intercepted a pass that would’ve won the game for them… when I saw it live, I did not think it was interference. When I saw the replay, it definitely WAS interference. … the Bama defender had his arm, wrapped all the way around the receiver and pulling on him when the ball is 4 feet away.
Bama fans did not talk about the pass interference. Call on Tennessee where it easily could’ve been and should’ve been offensive pass interference..
The big question is, did it make a material difference in the outcome of the game ? Because officials are always going to make mistakes…. Alabama is perceived forever as getting breaks from officiating. Likewise, the rest of the SEC thinks that Kentucky gets “all the calls” in basketball..
Neither is true. Nor do the SEC officials huddle together to plan how they are going to call the game in favor of one thing or another, as was insinuated before the game last week.
That is absurd. Metaphorically, that kind of comment is like Hillary saying that the 2024 election is already thrown.
That doesn’t bother me as bad as …..Remember against Ole Miss….remember that touchdown we had called back because Will didn’t allow our receiver to get set …..that play that cost us the game ? Tennessee makes that violation on 75% of their snaps .It happened all night long and I don't recall any flags for it. IIRC they did it last year too. It's obviously an advantage.
Yes all the referees get together before the game and decide not to call that because of their overwhelming love for the volunteers
Yes, it changes the angle for blocking, plus it's against the rules and a penalty. But so is the coach being on the field, officials are letting that slide too. Once again, trashiest program and fanbase in all of college athletics. Look no further than the OM game last year and the greatest baseball team to ever choke their way out of the college world series.
It’s too bad our Wildcats were absolutely humiliated—-that’s an understatement—-Saturday night. against our arch rival ( but since we are 4–42 in the last 46 years against them, they do not consider us a rival). I told my brother-in-law we really are not jealous of their football program at all. You can tell by the posts here.
The embarrassments were far and few between for our team and coaches. I must admit that Bru McCoy trolling Stoops ( limping like he was going to go off the field making the all-time leading Kentucky football coach in terms of (( not very many) significant ) wins substitute , and get caught with 18 men on the field, then whining and complaining to the referees that he wasn’t allowed to substitute.
Another great scene Saturday night was our # 1 in the draft quarterback, calling the team back onto the field, absolutely sure of himself that the interception he had just thrown was going to be reversed upon review…. then looking bewildered when it wasn’t . This goes along with a long storied history … an outright SEC championship in 90 years(-even then we lost to UT 7-0
.Other schools in the SEC like Bama, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn would have loved to have named their field after a grocery store and have it printed on the field ( since Kroger also owns Fry’s, I thought Fry’s field sounded better)
They also envy the incredibly hard nonconference schedule Kentucky always schedules. Playing at Akron in the future is the wish and desire and envy of all of those schools…our fans love Akron in the fall, and is it sure to raise our strength of schedule..
At least our all world QB , soon to be drafted number one overall in the draft, and the dream quarterback of all NFL teams , can read a defense and never throws too late like Hendon hooker ( The mayonnaise in the coffee and eating banana peels helps him do that)..
Our game day atmosphere is so much better than the University of Tennessee’s, what with our always sold out crowds in our quaint 60,000 seat stadium… Sports illustrated on campus had to be wrong when they said the best place to spend a football weekend was UT. And I hope that Kirk Herbstreit never says “little Tennessee “like he did “little Kentucky” The other night on national television. What a compliment!
Hopefully Barnhart can get ESPN game day to come here for the first time in our history the next time we play Youngstown State, Eastern KY, N. Illinois in our home opener-what with our scintillating offense ( even though it does put a sleeping man into a coma most of the time). That would go along with winning the SEC east for the first time in our history.
Those puke orange hillbillies/rubes/toothless moonshiners ( one of my UT friends asked me if that was projection…but I did not know what he meant) Said Kentucky Football was an oxymoron ( I told him I did not know what that meant either, but I took it as a compliment).
Tennessee certainly did choke baseball last year. ( I have forgotten what place our Cats came in, I was still thinking about Saint peters,). Even though Tennessee won the SEC basketball tournament, regular season and tourney in baseball , and the commissioners trophy as the best all-around sports program in the southeastern conference, it was just a fluke. All of their sports programs are on the down slide. Just look at football this year ( their recruiting is sucking wind —-they only have the number three quarterback coming in due to that dirty NIL money…..glad we don’t do that ). Who would want to play in front of 110,000 people in an atmosphere like that where you can’t even hear yourself think ?
they obviously have not been to Commonwealth when we play Bowling Green.
And basketball— Hell Tennessee only beat number one Gonzaga 98 to 80 in an exhibition last week—-it’s our birthright — Saint peters be damned.
Got to go to bed. Go Cats ! Beat Mizzou . Even though those dreaded volunteers are going to be on game day for the third time this year, I’m hoping Gameday visits Lexington for the Vandy Kentucky game …. The atmosphere should be electric… No one will be thinking about basketball when that one kicks off. The only thing that worries me is that many people in Tennessee refer to Vanderbilt as Peterbilt since they merged with Peabody College. Scares me to play in the school with the word “Peter” in it after last basketball season
One last thing: Give StlCat a 💋… I can tell that he is struggling with the anger issues and is probably emotionally stunted. I know a good therapist, because God knows he needs one.
Basketball, at least, until the NCAA tournament, should make him feel better.
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The Browns were doing it all night last night and I thought of this post. I played football for 9 years and am ashamed to say that I dont know the exact rule or how it works. I always assumed your helmet had to be behind where the ball is placed which would mean to me that this should have been a penalty? It seems that a lot of teams are doing this nowadays.
So you sit around giggling? I don't know many men that sit around giggling but hey I not going to judge if you are into giggling with a bunch of other men. I mean you can pillow fight and play spin the bottle while giggling if that is your thing.
The camera angle distorts the picture. If the camera was on UK’s side of the ball it would look totally different. The only angle that can show for sure would be on exactly at the line of scrimmage, which is the angle the refs are standing at.It happened all night long and I don't recall any flags for it. IIRC they did it last year too. It's obviously an advantage.
You can plainly see the 2 guys at the top of the pic a full yard behind the other 2? That has nothing to do with camera angle.
That is way better than being a UT fan.
It absolutely does have all to do with camera angle. What you said even furthers the point. With this camera angle it moves the closer objects further to the left and the away objects further to the right. That is how camera angles work.
