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How does TN recruit so well?

Originally posted by CATFANFOLIFE87:
When are people going to learn that the recruiting budget argument is complete and utter BULLSHIT. Our staffs under Mitch have never had a cap on what they could spend in recruiting EVER. UK has always had to recruit regionally because our football program isn't a national brand. Tennessee, Michigan, USC, and OSU have a history of recruiting the entire country for players. Under Brooks/Joker a majority of our players came for Georgia and under Stoops +50% of our players come from Ohio or Kentucky. A person with very limited knowledge of geography and travel expenses can put 2 and 2 together and figure out that flying assistants cross country in jets is exponentially more expensive than routine road trips that are 7 hours or less in most cases. If our coaches thought their time would be well spent flying to Texas and Cali they would do that and money wouldn't stop them from being able to. Some have an axe to grind so they'll just make crap up to fit their agenda
Thanks. It is amazing that so many people just can't seem to understand this. Or just don't want to.
 
Originally posted by jauk11:
Originally posted by bigbluegrog:


Originally posted by KopiKat:
While everyone is talking about the Vols, I'll just take this moment to repeat my life-long philosophy of UK football struggles which is this:

Until our athletic department's leadership decides to make the ability to compete against the University of Tennessee the #1, SINGLE, front-burner priority, then UK Football will continue to struggle to be anything more than what it has been over the past 3-1/2 decades.

that is all

This post was edited on 1/18 8:34 PM by KopiKat
What else would you like to see them do that they aren't currently?
Why couldn't they have done at least a FEW of the things they ARE doing currently years ago? The answer: they could have, but chose not to, putting the money that football, THE emerging money sport, (mostly due to TV etc which was obvious to most casual observers but apparently not to our AD), was earning into expanding our basketball program which already had tons of recruiting advantages AND expanding our non-revenue sports. And it is even worse than that, most SEC schools don't make much or any money from basketball, while UK was making about $5,000,000 a year from our program at that time, but at the time women's basketball was losing 2 to 3 million a year, not much choice in women's sports since they are mandated to be supported also.

The frustrating thing IMO is that ANY money they put into football would have MADE more money, and they would have had more money for everything. Why do you think football had millions of dollars in lost revenue in 11 and 12, pretty simple to me, it was on minimum life support for the previous 10 years which not only led to lack of interest but also a concerted and costly strike for more support.

I did the research at the time, Joker's first team in 10 played Florida on the road his first year with a team that had MORE two stars starting than three stars, with a senior class from 07 that had NINETEEN two stars in it, with two walkons starting, while Florida had a TWO DEEP (not just the starters) that AVERAGED above not just a FOUR star, but a 5.9 four star. And a lot of fans thought we should upset them.

We did upset TOBC that year, that had a couple of five stars and THIRTY EIGHT four star commits in the previous four classes while we had TWO four star starters, (and I think one was injured) both JCs from California, one that made THE critical recovery in the playoff game today. In fact seven of the eight SEC teams we faced that year AVERAGED 39 four star commits, minus Vandy but including Ole Miss and MSU, that most of our fans thought we should beat routinely. Do you remember the disgust when MSU's four star Dixon ran all over us when we were supposed to beat them with a couple of four stars while they had over 20 from the previous four classes, and those 20 accentuated a major problem UK had, particularly then, because ALL those four stars were from the state of Mississippi.

There were a lot of reasons for that imbalance of power, and there are lots of reasons we are finally getting players that will give us a chance to compete in the SEC, although we are still far behind.

One of the big ones is that a lot of loyal fans sacrificed tickets in the family for generations so UK lost millions, which woke mitch up from his slumber.
Tennessee's recruiting prowess was built and established well before
Mitch came to Kentucky. They have cared about football longer than most
in this conference and that "caring" has built them a tradition and fan
base that has expectations in football.

If anything Mitch
carried on what had been allowed to happen for many years before him.
You make it seem like the fans put a gun to his head Jauk. If that's the
case why didn't that happen 20-30 years ago? If the fans had the control
then why blame Mitch for anything? If they were responsible for changing
the football mindset it seems they would have been responsible for not
dong it earlier.

Up chuck all the Ditch Mitch numbers you want. This thing has been broken for decades and Mitch was not around when it was going on.
 
The internet. Fans didn't know what was going on, I certainly didn't.
 
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