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How does Cal replace Booker next year?

Didn't Bookers dad, an experienced pro player, say that Booker was absolutely NOT leaving after one year? I'm sure his dad wants him to mature more, both physically and emotionally before he goes. Not to mention the fact that he can work his way into a lottery pick next year.
 
He's a borderline first rounder. The key to him right now is he needs to continue to get stronger, improve his handle and improve defense. I think he will do all, but as of right now he needs a lot of improvement in those areas. He is probably the greatest example of a player benefitting from the platoon to hide his weaknesses.
 
Originally posted by mj2k10:
Starting a thread like this is just idiotic baiting.
Why do so many people on this board instantly start bashing other posters? Whether you would have started this thread or not, why did you feel the need to call it "idiotic baiting"? Do all topics have to meet your approval, or they are idiotic? Good grief.
 
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
 
Originally posted by RickyRossi:
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
…He's 6' 6.
 
He might be the best shooter in the country. He's a perfect NBA shooting guard at 6'6". He'll go when he wants. If he goes this year he will be taken in the top 20, maybe top 15. Newman is good shooter, not as good as Booker. Briscoe can shoot. Ulis can shoot. Willis can shoot. Poythress can shoot. Matthews is not considered a good shooter, below avg. Skal can shoot the 3 pretty well for a big guy also. We will be fine.
 
Originally posted by SilentsAreGolden:

Originally posted by mj2k10:
Starting a thread like this is just idiotic baiting.
Why do so many people on this board instantly start bashing other posters? Whether you would have started this thread or not, why did you feel the need to call it "idiotic baiting"? Do all topics have to meet your approval, or they are idiotic? Good grief.
Why? Because that's what it is.

And I explained why above. If someone wants to have a theoretical discussion on this, fine, but don't be the obnoxious guy acting like he has "facts" (in this case, that Booker is gone after this year), when there's really just an assumption. An assumption not everyone is going to agree with. Stating that assumption in that way makes it bait.

If I start a thread that says "IF UK loses__(whatever)", it's a totally different thing than if I start a thread that says "WHEN UK loses__(whatever)". See the difference?
 
Originally posted by reignof cats:

Recruiting gurus who is out there? Booker and the twins gone to the nba. Who do we got next year coming in to shoot the 3? TIA
Aren't you the one who wrote definitively that the twins were "gone" at the end of last season?








This post was edited on 1/18 9:03 PM by Son_Of_Saul
 
Back the op's point: name one thing Booker is qualified at contributing to the NBA besides shooting right now - or even after two years of the NBADL, when his contract goes the way of Marquis Teague and expires. Are any of you aware of his 1.4 rebounds per 20 minutes or his shaky defense (albeit improving)? For a guy standing 6'6", the NBA is going to want him to get stronger, just like they did for Jones, Lamb, and WCS. That's not a knock on Booker, but a reality. He has a ton of potential, but not enough to guarantee a first round spot, regardless of this week's faddish wave of "well if the Draftexpress says so, then so do I" group-think.


I could see him making the jump, but he's going to have to finish the season strong including improved rebounding in traffic. Presently, Booker is a terrible rebounding guard for standing a legit 6'6".

We should all remember that if Booker is good enough at the end of this season to make the jump into a comfortable first round slot, it probably meant he was red-hot at season's end, which bodes well for UK.
This post was edited on 1/18 11:35 PM by Son_Of_Saul
 
The kid is def a first rounder. Right now! He does everything well to really good but some think he isn't ready? Everyone thought young was ready last season and he wasn't even close to as good as devin and never will be. The answer is pretty simple really. Perception. People look at him being light skinned(mixed) and think he's some how less talented because of it.I found myself wondering just how good he was before the season aswell. Had my doubts about him. He has been one of the bigger surprises in talent that cal has had.
I think booker goes on to be the best player from this team. I know that's saying a lot but the kid has a bright future.
 
I gotta agree any great shooter who was a McDonald's all American can and should leave after one year. Time to get paid!

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Originally posted by cats#1again:
People look at him being light skinned(mixed) and think he's some how less talented because of it.
False.

Patently false.


People looked at Young's midrange game and his shooting, combined both elements alongside his ability to rebound and saw a top 20 pick from even before he arrived in Lexington. Booker's draft position is entirely different because it basically has only been at a premium the last two weeks. That's called impulsive response to current play. People did the same things with WCS, Lamb, Jones, Poythress, and yes, even the twins. It's best to let the process play out instead of writing in absolutes when discussing fringe first rounders.


Booker could be a first round pick this year, but the definitive tone this week that has accompanied his possible jump to the league is absurd.


Lots of basketball to play; but I do agree on one major point - if he continues to develop this season while shooting at his current clip, it will be hard to ignore him in the first round.
 
Originally posted by ncaaky:
Booker will not go. He is super young and his dad knows his body isn't ready yet. His dad was a basketball superstar and knows his son isn't physically nor mentally ready yet for the NBA.
I agree with you. His Dad has been there (NBA) and knows what it takes to play in the NBA. Look for Booker to stay another year and build up his body in the off season.
 
Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Back the op's point: name one thing Booker is qualified at contributing to the NBA besides shooting right now - or even after two years of the NBADL, when his contract goes the way of Marquis Teague and expires. Are any of you aware of his 1.4 rebounds per 20 minutes or his shaky defense (albeit improving)? For a guy standing 6'6", the NBA is going to want him to get stronger, just like they did for Jones, Lamb, and WCS. That's not a knock on Booker, but a reality. He has a ton of potential, but not enough to guarantee a first round spot, regardless of this week's faddish wave of "well if the Draftexpress says so, then so do I" group-think.




This post was edited on 1/18 11:35 PM by Son_Of_Saul

Hey mane, i'm just letting the people know that scouts are aware of his play.

I actually voiced similar concerns about his game in a thread a few days ago. Basically called him one-dimensional, which he is at this point.
 
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:




Hey mane, i'm just letting the people know that scouts are aware of his play.

I actually voiced similar concerns about his game in a thread a few days ago. Basically called him one-dimensional, which he is at this point.
I've agreed with your points on Booker, including his reluctance to try to create his own shot. His step-back three against Alabama shows he might be looking to do just that, however. For the sake of the team, I have no problem with the idea of Booker being a first round pick, because if he does make the first round, it probably turned out good for the team in the tournament; however I just grow weary of fans acting like it's an absolute. I wouldn't put you in that camp. You've actually been pretty realistic in your writings concerning Booker.
This post was edited on 1/18 11:46 PM by Son_Of_Saul
 
James young. Or Booker. Both key players for UK. Young made the first round. I think Booker is better than young. So why re so many convinced he is returning.. Especially if he stays hot and we win number nine
 
Originally posted by Son_Of_Saul:

Back the op's point: name one thing Booker is qualified at contributing to the NBA besides shooting right now - or even after two years of the NBADL, when his contract goes the way of Marquis Teague and expires. Are any of you aware of his 1.4 rebounds per 20 minutes or his shaky defense (albeit improving)? For a guy standing 6'6", the NBA is going to want him to get stronger, just like they did for Jones, Lamb, and WCS. That's not a knock on Booker, but a reality. He has a ton of potential, but not enough to guarantee a first round spot, regardless of this week's faddish wave of "well if the Draftexpress says so, then so do I" group-think.


I could see him making the jump, but he's going to have to finish the season strong including improved rebounding in traffic. Presently, Booker is a terrible rebounding guard for standing a legit 6'6".

We should all remember that if Booker is good enough at the end of this season to make the jump into a comfortable first round slot, it probably meant he was red-hot at season's end, which bodes well for UK.
This post was edited on 1/18 11:35 PM by Son_Of_Saul
I don't see where you get that booker is a "shaky" defender, he was our lock down guy on summers in the end of the game when we played ole miss, his defense is definitely NBA ready. And i dont think booker ever will be rebounding guard (definitely not on the offensive end). Hes our leak out guy for fastbreaks and hes tasked with covering guards in transition on the other side
 
Originally posted by W2R:
James young. Or Booker. Both key players for UK. Young made the first round. I think Booker is better than young. So why re so many convinced he is returning.. Especially if he stays hot and we win number nine
James is more athletically gifted than Book. Unfortunately he didn't play defense, his passing was suspect, and never really developed into a dead eye shooter last season.
 
The problem with young was and always will be defense. He would score 20 while his man scored 25.
 
Originally posted by JerseyCat84:
Originally posted by W2R:
James young. Or Booker. Both key players for UK. Young made the first round. I think Booker is better than young. So why re so many convinced he is returning.. Especially if he stays hot and we win number nine
James is more athletically gifted than Book. Unfortunately he didn't play defense, his passing was suspect, and never really developed into a dead eye shooter last season.
You prove my point. cal left Booker in as a defender in the closest game of the year
 
Originally posted by RickyRossi:
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
This is just stupid
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You lost credibility when you said "undersized". 6'6 shooting guards are not undersized, by any means.
I also wouldn't say he's a "one trick pony". He defends well, and if anybody's shot isn't falling, you'd "barely know he's on the floor". But how often have you seen his shot not falling? That's the appeal.
That said, he'll end up as a 1st round pick, and will have a good career when he goes, but he won't go after this year. He knows he has plenty to improve on, his dad has likely reinforced that, and frankly, I'm not so sure he's ready to leave his best friend behind to pursue a career in the NBA when he has a lot to build on.
 
If we win it all, there will be alot of players leave that we probably didn't think would leave. Willie, Johnson, Lyles, and Towns could all leave if we win. Then there's the twins who definitely leave if we win, and Booker could be right there too, if we win it all. That would be 7 players to replace next year.
 
Booker may even be lottery if he keeps playing like this. Kid is another Klay Thompson. Any UK fan poo-poohing his draft stock are just wishful thinking. Maybe he comes back, but if he leaves, he's a Top 20 pick. Elite shooter and the other aspects of his game are underrated. People act like he's not a good athlete but that's false. He's also a good defender. And his basketball IQ is terrific.
 
Originally posted by westerncat:

Originally posted by ncaaky:
Booker will not go. He is super young and his dad knows his body isn't ready yet. His dad was a basketball superstar and knows his son isn't physically nor mentally ready yet for the NBA.
I agree with you. His Dad has been there (NBA) and knows what it takes to play in the NBA. Look for Booker to stay another year and build up his body in the off season.
This is the reason he will be here next year,getting to the NBA is great but being able to make it in the NBA from day 1 is more important.He is still a kid,he needs the year of maturity.
 
Originally posted by W2R:
James young. Or Booker. Both key players for UK. Young made the first round. I think Booker is better than young. So why re so many convinced he is returning.. Especially if he stays hot and we win number nine
His father was pretty clear. He isn't leaving after one year.
 
James Young is 1/2 inch taller then Booker. Athletic measurements were similar. I think Booker is still maturing and will improve athletically. I don't think he'll ever be head at the rim athletic, but he's a good athlete now that will get even better. Good athletes are average athletes for the NBA though....the NBA is filled with freakishly long and athletic players.

Biggest difference physically is Young's length. Wingspan is almost 6 inches longer and standing reach is 4 inches higher. That alone puts him in a different category.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Young-6462/

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Devin-Booker-7216/

Skill wise Booker has shown a tiny portion of what he's capable of... He looks pretty quick on drives and has a midrange game too.

If all things were the same, Young's length gives him a higher ceiling and makes him more versatile offensively and defensively. I'm rooting for both kids, but I think Booker's skill level is going to be off the charts.
 
Originally posted by westerncat:

Originally posted by ncaaky:
Booker will not go. He is super young and his dad knows his body isn't ready yet. His dad was a basketball superstar and knows his son isn't physically nor mentally ready yet for the NBA.
I agree with you. His Dad has been there (NBA) and knows what it takes to play in the NBA. Look for Booker to stay another year and build up his body in the off season.
First of all, being light skinned has nothing to do with playing basketball or where you get drafted. Booker does need to bulk up. TJ looked lie a nfl te the other night at Rupp. Booker's dad and Cal will both give him good advice at the time. Brandon Knight went pro. Knight was a smart kid, could shoot, similar body type with Devin. $ talks. I don't want him to go pro but these kids come to play for Cal with that intention. Getting paid to play basketball is a pretty cool way to make a living.
 
Originally posted by Rhavicc:

Originally posted by RickyRossi:
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
This is just stupid
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You lost credibility when you said "undersized". 6'6 shooting guards are not undersized, by any means.
I also wouldn't say he's a "one trick pony". He defends well, and if anybody's shot isn't falling, you'd "barely know he's on the floor". But how often have you seen his shot not falling? That's the appeal.
That said, he'll end up as a 1st round pick, and will have a good career when he goes, but he won't go after this year. He knows he has plenty to improve on, his dad has likely reinforced that, and frankly, I'm not so sure he's ready to leave his best friend behind to pursue a career in the NBA when he has a lot to build on.
If by 6'6 you mean 6'4.

He's not going pro after this year and if he does it's a mistake. He's basically Trajan Langdon, Minus the consistent production over 3 seasons.

He defends well? Booker plays defense. He's no defense stopper. And it's easy to play defense at the college level and all out pressure the ball everywhere when you have 2 Seven Footers on the floor usually to protect the rim.

He's not Bruce Bowen or Tony Allen. He plays good team defense within the scheme.

He's not a great athlete but he's not a poor athlete.

I like Booker, but if he's not hitting his shots, which he has been as of late after that initial slump, you wouldn't notice him hardly at all.

UK fans are just always going crazy over Box Scores and anybody who has a few good games in a row is a potential First Round pick.
 
Disagree that you wouldn't notice him if he weren't hitting shots. Guy has a knack for getting out in the open floor and is terrific around the basket.

He's a pro. Period. There are some other very questionable guys on this team--the twins, Dakari. But Booker, Lyles, WCS = gone.
 
Originally posted by RickyRossi:
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
LOL he is 6'6 . He is an undersized SF but has greatsize for a SG .He was measured at the NBA combine we had so you can't argue his height . And by the way every mock draft has him going in the top 25 or higher so you are wrong again . Not sure if you are trying to troll or are just plain stupid . As i said i think he stays but he is a tremedous prospect as there are only 5-10 guys on earth that can shoot like that and he is the best shooter i have seen in my 26 years of watching UK basketball and his % proves that . he is more athletic then i thought and is good defender with the potential to be great . Why Chad Ford had him as 15th best prospect regardless of class last time i checked .

This post was edited on 1/21 3:00 PM by caneintally
 
Newman and/or Brown would easily replace Booker, and then some. Would they shoot it from 3 better than Booker? NO. But they are better all around players/scoreers than Booker is. Newman is pretty good shooting threes
 
Originally posted by ulismyman:

why do you think the Harrisons are going to the NBA??? did you mean the developmental league??? Not sure what you have seen performance of mock draft wise that makes you think they will be selected
^^This..no way either of them right now would be drafted even in the second round. They are going to make good on that promise of "being here four years". Then they may have a career overseas. They are not, and never have been, NBA material.

As for Booker, I agree with the statements that he will return because of his dads experience in knowing his body's not ready.
 
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


Originally posted by RickyRossi:
Booker going pro? WTH? Dude is an undersized 2 guard and not a great athlete. He can stroke it but he's nowhere near a 1st round pick.

If he's shot not falling, you barely know he's on the floor. I love him but he's a 1 trick pony right now. If he went pro, he may get drafted in the 2nd round and would be out of the league in 2 years.
…He's 6' 6.
Don't be shy - the rest of his post is absolute crap as well. There's not a single word in that post that's true.
 
Originally posted by reignof cats:

Originally posted by westerncat:


Originally posted by ncaaky:
Booker will not go. He is super young and his dad knows his body isn't ready yet. His dad was a basketball superstar and knows his son isn't physically nor mentally ready yet for the NBA.
I agree with you. His Dad has been there (NBA) and knows what it takes to play in the NBA. Look for Booker to stay another year and build up his body in the off season.
First of all, being light skinned has nothing to do with playing basketball or where you get drafted. Booker does need to bulk up. TJ looked lie a nfl te the other night at Rupp. Booker's dad and Cal will both give him good advice at the time. Brandon Knight went pro. Knight was a smart kid, could shoot, similar body type with Devin. $ talks. I don't want him to go pro but these kids come to play for Cal with that intention. Getting paid to play basketball is a pretty cool way to make a living.
What in the hell are you babbling about?
 
Originally posted by RickyRossi:

UK fans are just always going crazy over Box Scores and anybody who has a few good games in a row is a potential First Round pick.
Yep, because if there's a fan base that's not likely to know much about first round draft picks, it's UK's.

i think he's got the most pro potential of anyone on the team, KAT included. Best shooter in the country. Good size. Better than expected, and improving daily, as a defender. Very good hoops IQ. Could he stand another year or two in college? Sure. Who couldn't. Have no idea if he'll leave or not, much goes into that decision that can't possibly be known unless you're inside the family. My presumption is by year end he'll be a lottery pick, and lottery picks tend to leave early....
 
Since Cal has been here the one thing I have lost interest in is the discussion of who goes and who stays. Part of Cal's job to work around but to me the discussions take away from the current enjoyment of the team.
 
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