2 of the top 3 teams in the country?
Is it one and done recruits?
Gobs of NIL money?
Catering to each player’s camp or entourage?
Is it one and done recruits?
Gobs of NIL money?
Catering to each player’s camp or entourage?
How are Houston and Purdue
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Houston players are men and they hack and grab all the time, they figure they can’t call them all and they push the ball and shoot halfway decent. Their Defense is pretty dang good is their calling card.
None are 5 Stars but 2 Felons and 4 with misdemeanor charges. Just joking I don’t know that is Kansas roster.
None are 5 Stars but 2 Felons and 4 with misdemeanor charges. Just joking I don’t know that is Kansas roster.
Lots of older players who don't want to move on from college
Because the NCAA loves to overrate certain teams annually and watch them flame out in the tournament.
Neither team likely makes it past the SW16. But at least Houston is playing in a good conference this year, so that may help them.
Neither team likely makes it past the SW16. But at least Houston is playing in a good conference this year, so that may help them.
Obviously none of the above. My question is, we do all of that yet are in an eternal dog fight to stay in the top 10?
Everyone OOOH's and AHHHHH's about our talent but we get blown out by decent no name team and struggle to beat a god awful team(yes those were road games, I get it)
At some point we have to ask ourselves just who the f)(& are we?
Everyone OOOH's and AHHHHH's about our talent but we get blown out by decent no name team and struggle to beat a god awful team(yes those were road games, I get it)
At some point we have to ask ourselves just who the f)(& are we?
Keeping a lot of the same team together.. teams that we're already pretty great at college basketball. Like, Houston was a 3-seed in 2021, went to the Elite 8.. and then returned a lot of that talent
When you can strike that perfect amount of basketball talent and chemistry, and hold it for a few years, you will do real well.
They are both as(or more) likely to outlast us.
That’s what I’m thinking. I’m told by some that I’m unreasonable to think the next coach could shift gears and win a different way. I think it can be done. We have the right program.
I don't know, man. You're the one with the algorithm model, you tell us!
Hope not, but if I had to pick today I would have them in front of us. Pains me to admit.
Houston: Same as they always are. Incredibly active, hit the glass really hard, physical on both ends of the floor, make every shot tough for you, and they try to rebound every single one of their own misses. Great length and altheticism. Wouldn't say that have many natural "scorers" and team perimeter shooting is always a concern for them
Purdue: Executuion. They execute their sets and their actions - obviously it all starts with touches for Edey or making the other team decide how to "take away" Edey. They've got a couple nice shooters to help space the floor, a PG (Smith) that can create his own shot and he's really good in ball-screen action. Depth off the bench. They guard well, they rebound well. If you're able to take away Edey and they aren't shooting it well from 3, they'll definitely struggle to score. But they know their identity and they execute well.
As far as NIL, I really don't know. I assume Purdue has a decent NIL in place, especially for basketball. They've been really good for a few years now, so I'm sure their fanbase and boosters have something established. SIU-Carbondale, but I believe everyone else has been developed inside the program. They're experienced, veteran and well-coached.
Houston: Not any clue at all on their NIL, but no lack of money around the Houston metropolitan. Sampson and his staff are elite at motivating players to play their balls off, you do it or you don't play. His PG is a senior, been there his whole career - tough as nails and loves the moment. I don't think Houston is big on the portal, I think they bring their guys in and develop develop develop - that's why they're all so tough and physical. Sampson knows recruiting, knows the kind of player he wants to bring in for his identity - I don't think UK and Duke and UNC are going after many of the same guys...
Purdue: Executuion. They execute their sets and their actions - obviously it all starts with touches for Edey or making the other team decide how to "take away" Edey. They've got a couple nice shooters to help space the floor, a PG (Smith) that can create his own shot and he's really good in ball-screen action. Depth off the bench. They guard well, they rebound well. If you're able to take away Edey and they aren't shooting it well from 3, they'll definitely struggle to score. But they know their identity and they execute well.
As far as NIL, I really don't know. I assume Purdue has a decent NIL in place, especially for basketball. They've been really good for a few years now, so I'm sure their fanbase and boosters have something established. SIU-Carbondale, but I believe everyone else has been developed inside the program. They're experienced, veteran and well-coached.
Houston: Not any clue at all on their NIL, but no lack of money around the Houston metropolitan. Sampson and his staff are elite at motivating players to play their balls off, you do it or you don't play. His PG is a senior, been there his whole career - tough as nails and loves the moment. I don't think Houston is big on the portal, I think they bring their guys in and develop develop develop - that's why they're all so tough and physical. Sampson knows recruiting, knows the kind of player he wants to bring in for his identity - I don't think UK and Duke and UNC are going after many of the same guys...
Me too, but in the words of the great Sam Bowie "sometimes you have to call a spade a spade"
Houston is about to hit the meat of the schedule. I think they're in for a bumpy road.
@Texas tonight
@ Kansas Saturday
vs Iowa State on 2/19
@ Baylor 2/24
@ #25 Oklahoma
@UCF that knocked off Kansas earlier in the year
Vs Kansas to end the season
@Texas tonight
@ Kansas Saturday
vs Iowa State on 2/19
@ Baylor 2/24
@ #25 Oklahoma
@UCF that knocked off Kansas earlier in the year
Vs Kansas to end the season
Okay...and???
Mouthbreathers entering thread about non-UK teams or Not about Cal: "bUt uK, bUt cAl!!!!"
We have better players yet both teams have more success year over year. How does that work most of the time?
What’s funny is you acting like they’re the barometer of something. Pretty good regular seasons, sent packing in the tournament in the 1st round 2 of the last 3 years. Including last season as a 1 seed.
At least Houston has shown consistent postseason success.
BYU, Dayton, Texas Tech
That's Houston's 3 best wins. 1 home, 1 road, 1 neutral
As was mentioned, they are about to finally start playing the toughest part of their schedule. @Texas, @Kansass, @Cincinnati, @Baylor, @Oklahoma in their last 11 games. Also have home games against, Kansass, Cincy, Iowa State(who they lost to in Ames), and Texas.
That's Houston's 3 best wins. 1 home, 1 road, 1 neutral
As was mentioned, they are about to finally start playing the toughest part of their schedule. @Texas, @Kansass, @Cincinnati, @Baylor, @Oklahoma in their last 11 games. Also have home games against, Kansass, Cincy, Iowa State(who they lost to in Ames), and Texas.
What success? Houston has 1 F4 since 1984. It was 3 years ago. Purdue has been to the E8 one time since 2000 and that was 5 years ago. They got bounced early as a 1 seed the last 2 years.
Do you all even know what you're talking about most of the time?
Houston had the #8 and #24 pick this last draft. That was higher than UK. Purdue had the NPOY. Not really sure where you get either program is limited by talent or really behind us.
Be nice to Purdue you all. They do have a more recent Final Four than UT........ back in 1980 🤣
I'd take that bet.
They are likely to be 1 or 2 seeds.
Houston has made it past the S16 2 of the past 3 years.
and then there is all our success since 2017, I won't bother to list what we have done since then because you are clearly the expert here. I'll be glad to match knowledge of UK basketball history with you any day of the week
Houston has won 30+ games 3 times in the last 5 seasons, have a final four during that time, and an 11-4 post season record. And they’re trending towards another one seed and another 30 win season.
I get the skepticism on Purdue. But Sampson has had Houston as a perennial power house for nearly 6 years now.
I get the skepticism on Purdue. But Sampson has had Houston as a perennial power house for nearly 6 years now.
Does this include UK? Except for Sheppard, Dillingham and Z this may be Cals most overrated group and yet they'll all be gone at season's end. Why don't some of our kids stay especially now with NIL.
Lol, again, you're arguing about UK in a thread about Purdue and Houston. Not everything is about uK and cAl!
Dude, you didn't even realize Purdue has been a bigger disappointment than us the last 2 years or that Houston has had ample NBA talent. They had a higher pick and more 1st rd picks just last year. You've already demonstrated you don't know as much as you think. So, I think I'll save myself of arguing with a troglodyte today, but thanks!
What's the thread title about?
I promise, not everything has to be about uK and CaL! I know in some of your simple minds it is very hard to realize that, but there is a whole big world of things aside from UK and Cal.
Purdue has the potential for a couple of losses.
Vs NW on Wendesday. They beat Purdue when Purdue came to town the last meeting. I assume Purdue smashes them at home in a revenge game.
@ Wisconsin on Sunday. I'm not sure who to root for here. We need some Wisconsin L's to pass them. We need some of these 1 seedds to lose if we're ever going to sneak onto that line.
@Ohio State on 2/18
Vs Michigan State on 3/2. This is probably a win, but Izzo finds a way sometimes.
@Illinois on 3/5. I think Illinois is overrated, but a conference road game vs a top 25 team is tough.
Vs Wisconsin to end the season.
Feel like they lose 2 of these at the most. Probably coast to a 1 seed.
Vs NW on Wendesday. They beat Purdue when Purdue came to town the last meeting. I assume Purdue smashes them at home in a revenge game.
@ Wisconsin on Sunday. I'm not sure who to root for here. We need some Wisconsin L's to pass them. We need some of these 1 seedds to lose if we're ever going to sneak onto that line.
@Ohio State on 2/18
Vs Michigan State on 3/2. This is probably a win, but Izzo finds a way sometimes.
@Illinois on 3/5. I think Illinois is overrated, but a conference road game vs a top 25 team is tough.
Vs Wisconsin to end the season.
Feel like they lose 2 of these at the most. Probably coast to a 1 seed.
Correct me if I am wrong(and I'm sure you will) but this thread started by comparing Houston ,Purdue and UK. The ignore button is easy to find and use I suggest you take advantage of it relative to my posts.
Just asking questions. Obviously our program is light years better than Purdue. I would think we could perform at least as well as they do.
Nothing in the thread title mentioned UK or comparing the 2 programs. It was a simple question posing how those 2 non-UK teams are 2 of the top 3 teams. No mention of UK or Cal anywhere or any comparison between them. Maybe you're just so consumed with all things UK and Cal you can see anything else. Perhaps get help with that!
You're the one who messaged me, big guy. Feel free to ignore away!
Everything they have done this season (and the previous 5) would suggest otherwise.
