Hope FT shooting won't matter this season..

[Wildcat-in-STL]

as far as players getting mad at Cal.......... well all the former players for the coach to the north admit to getting upset with his methods of run til you drop... But in the end they all say they respected him because it made them better.

I wasnt sure if using that coaches methods would effect an image.. even if just slightly.... I just dont know.. thats why I was asking everyone. It wasnt some nefarious agenda

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

So you're all over the place with no point or solution except to get a jab in about Cal being a players first coach and implying that means he lacks the will to push his players?

I never implied that at all. You are definitely creating something out of nothing there.

And if you really misunderstood me then I'm sorry. I didnt mean it that way at all.


If anything direction...... it was more of saying the coach to the north is known for being overly hard on players.

 

[GonzoCat90]

I never implied that at all. You are definitely creating something out of nothing there.

And if you really misunderstood me then I'm sorry. I didnt mean it that way at all.

It came across (to me, can't speak for anyone else) as you saying:

Pitino makes his guys do this. It works.

Cal did it once and it worked and now he doesn't do it anymore because he's a "players coach," with a sarcastic tone.

If that's not the implication, what did you mean?

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

and this whole "you used to have good takes" is absolutely nothing more than

Overly positive takes - ooooo me likey

critical takes - boooooo me mad

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Whew man, silents how could you watch that game and think free throws didn't absolutely kill Memphis. Kansas was able to crawl back into that game because memphis couldn't put them away at the line. They missed key free throws that wouldn't have allowed Kansas to keep coming back. I know of no one that makes that claim.

Kansas hit some incredible shots, but they should have never been in the position for them to matter.

They were 8-12 from the time they took at 9 pt lead until the end of the game. That's 66%, which is slightly below the average for the last 50 yrs almost. Sure, 4 key FT misses came at a key stretch. But FTs are not the biggest factor is a win or loss most of the time. And yes, if they hit 93% like KU did, they would have won. My point is that this game is often used by those saying Cal doesn't care about FTs and it's cost him a couple titles. So, did defense and general FG shooting.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Didn't Cal comment on how he doesn't worry about them years ago? Some ft shooting sure would have helped in 2010.

I can't believe people don't understand why Cal says that in the media. He doesn't want to put more pressure on his players. Do people honestly think Cal doesn't care about FTs? Unreal.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

It came across (to me, can't speak for anyone else) as you saying:

Pitino makes his guys do this. It works.

Cal did it once and it worked and now he doesn't do it anymore because he's a "players coach," with a sarcastic tone.

If that's not the implication, what did you mean?

psychology here is that you are going into reading my posts assuming I'm bashing cal so you are looking for it in every nook and cranny. Its easy to view something someway if you are going into it biased.

Lets start off with the first paragraph. I brought up UK history... something that worked for a former coach. Unfortunately he's coaching for our rival but I'm going off of what I knew he did at UK so I was thinking about our past.

Second paragraph ....... using something similar during the current era ...one year it worked well for Cal. But in many other years he's mentioned using different methods instead.

third .. question at the end of the second paragraph........ tying it all in together......... would Cal using Pitino's methods often start making his reputation more like Pitino's (not off the court.... but on the court rep of being a coach first coach/hard ass coach)

I wasnt making a statement....... it was just a question meant for discussion. What makes a coaches reputation as coach first or player first (and im not talking a coach trying to market himself by words... but what the media and public actually view them as) and how much like Pitino would Cal have to get to start swaying in that direction? I figured if people took it as nothing more than a question... people would give their thoughts that would also end up answering these other questions that I did not ask directly.

 

[GonzoCat90]

psychology here is that you are going into reading my posts assuming I'm bashing cal so you are looking for it in every nook and cranny. Its easy to view something someway if you are going into it biased.

Lets start off with the first paragraph. I brought up UK history... something that worked for a former coach

Second paragraph ....... using something similar during the current era ...one year it worked well for Cal. But in many other years he's mentioned using different methods instead.

Third paragraph........ tying it all in together......... would Cal using Pitino's methods often start making his reputation more like Pitino's (not off the court.... but on the court rep of being a coach first coach/hard ass coach)

I wasnt making a statement....... it was just a question meant for discussion. What makes a coaches reputation as coach first or player first (and im not talking a coach trying to market himself by words... but what the media and public actually view them as)

I didn't go into your post looking for anything. I have no idea what you're talking about with the whole "you used to be a good poster" stuff.

I was replying based on the merit of the post. Even now that you've explained it, I can't see that in the initial post.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Have a good one.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

I didn't go into your post looking for anything. I have no idea what you're talking about with the whole "you used to be a good poster" stuff.

I was replying based on the merit of the post. Even now that you've explained it, I can't see that in the initial post.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Have a good one.

The good poster thing was something I was meaning to write earlier in response to KYFOSSIL

 

[KYFOSSIL]

You are reaching so hard you might just bust your hymen there. Tell me is the coach to the north considered a "players coach?" thats why I asked if using his methods would hurt the players coach image of Cal. Thats all I meant.

I never even hinted at Cal being soft or unwilling to do what it takes. You are creating reasons to get digs in at me .

Oh wait... I mentioned the coach to the north. Does that mean I'm a UL fan and Cal hater? or wait.... I said maybe Cal should try that method so does that mean I'm saying that coach is better than Cal????? What twisting of my posts do you want to try next ?

Tell the truth... is this hatred of me stemming from predicting we'd lose to ucla.... or my bashing of Trump?

No sir I was referred to your last line which was implying that he didn't work them hard enough possibly for fear of ruining his player first image. You go on these defensive rants about Trump or UCLA and I haven't a clue what's the significance of those 2 things nor do I care of a Pitino reference. I'm serious you have gone from being a solid poster to a paranoid ass.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

No sir was I referred to your last line which was implying that he didn't work them hard enough possibly for fear of ruining his player first image. You go on these defensive rants about Trump or UCLA and I haven't a clue what's the significance of those 2 things nor do I care of a Pitino reference. I'm serious you have gone from being a solid poster to a paranoid ass.

Oh paranoid huh? Its almost like you forgot you started right out of the gate calling me an ass because you assumed what I meant instead of asking me what I meant. Or instead of reading the rest of this thread where I explained where I was coming from...... you just now doubled down... so why is that? You not even going to try and understand where I was coming from? You do know its easy to misunderstand posts on these boards because you dont have voices, tones and mannerisms to help decipher it.

as far as the trump and UCLA stuff.. I got you mixed up with KYNC. .. it was weeks ago and months ago and both user names start with a capital KY... honest mistake on my behalf.

 

[Fawrules]

Still shooting 50% and under from the is bad. Most free throws have very little pressure

Sure it is. Just saying a lot of it's more mental than anything. Most of our guys never end up shooting that bad in the end. Not saying Diallo or Washington will be particularly good from the line, but I'm sure they'll get those percentages up at least a bit.