Here's the rule on Technicals

[Deli owl]

Agreed, but in that scenario tonight, it's at least forgivable. That was the biggest defensive stand of Humphries young life.

Maybe we can keep being understanding instead of correcting the players actions. That way we can understand the next two players getting techs for us and possibly loosing another game. Should have learned after Briscoe.

 

[731461]

Class A Unsporting Technical Infractions

Art. 1. A player or substitute committing an unsportsmanlike act including, but not limited to, the following:

1. Disrespectfully addressing an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
2. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.
3. Inciting undesirable crowd reaction.
4. Contacting an opponent, while the ball is dead, in an unnecessary, unacceptable and excessive manner.
5. Flagrantly (severe or extreme) contacting an opponent while the ball is dead.
6. A flagrant noncontact infraction that involves extreme, sometimes persistent, vulgar, abusive conduct when the ball is dead or live.
7. Participating after having been disqualified (noncontact flagrant 2 technical).
8. Leaving the playing court and going into the stands when a fight may break out or has broken out (flagrant noncontact infraction).
9. Fighting as in Rule 10-5.
10. Disrespectfully contacting an official
    
    
    
    
    As you can see, what Humphries did is not listed. It would fall under the discretion of the officials. Pat Adams did not have to give Humphries a T because he was excited about making a potential game winning play. Don't let anyone tell you differently. It IS NOT the rule.

Adams is known for this crap. http://deadspin.com/sec-tournament-punctuated-by-overenthusiastic-referees-1544595219

 

[trinity45]

Class A Unsporting Technical Infractions

Art. 1. A player or substitute committing an unsportsmanlike act including, but not limited to, the following:

1. Disrespectfully addressing an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
2. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.
3. Inciting undesirable crowd reaction.
4. Contacting an opponent, while the ball is dead, in an unnecessary, unacceptable and excessive manner.
5. Flagrantly (severe or extreme) contacting an opponent while the ball is dead.
6. A flagrant noncontact infraction that involves extreme, sometimes persistent, vulgar, abusive conduct when the ball is dead or live.
7. Participating after having been disqualified (noncontact flagrant 2 technical).
8. Leaving the playing court and going into the stands when a fight may break out or has broken out (flagrant noncontact infraction).
9. Fighting as in Rule 10-5.
10. Disrespectfully contacting an official
    
    
    
    
    As you can see, what Humphries did is not listed. It would fall under the discretion of the officials. Pat Adams did not have to give Humphries a T because he was excited about making a potential game winning play. Don't let anyone tell you differently. It IS NOT the rule.

I have seen plyer get "T"ed up for throwing the ball down hard but what Hum did was not really that bad, the ref should have let that one go.

 

[3rex]

I am saying that what he did was NOT unsportsmanlike. He reacted with joy to a play. Heck, the ball barely got above his head. And it did NOT delay the game nor incite the fans or show up the Official for a bad call. He just celebrated and immediately composed himself.

Believe me...I DO know what I am talking about. I'll leave it at that, because I don't intend to lay out my credentials. There are several on this board who know who I am.

I have no problem believing you know what you're talking about and I'm sure you're very impressive, but it doesn't make you unequivocally correct in this case, nor are you the ultimate authority.
It is your opinion that it wasn't unsportsmanlike conduct, but it could be reasonably argued that any instance of throwing the ball off the ground is unsportsmanlike on its face, abusing equipment etc.
Look, I think a good referee would've just told him to calm\tone it down & moved on. And that's what should've happened here. But to act like the ref had absolutely no basis or authority to call a T isn't true.

 

[uky8unc5]

I have no problem believing you know what you're talking about and I'm sure you're very impressive, but it doesn't make you unequivocally correct in this case, nor are you the ultimate authority.
It is your opinion that it wasn't unsportsmanlike conduct, but it could be reasonably argued that any instance of throwing the ball off the ground is unsportsmanlike on its face, abusing equipment etc.
Look, I think a good referee would've just told him to calm\tone it down & moved on. And that's what should've happened here. But to act like the ref had absolutely no basis or authority to call a T isn't true.

* Yes...He called the T, so yes he had the authority. No argument.
* Yes...I am not the final authority. Totally true.
* Absolutely Yes...every official in America I thinks he blew it. In fact, I bet he feels bad about it too. Been there myself many times. It was a horrible game changing mistake.

 

[Smashcat]

* Yes...He called the T, so yes he had the authority. No argument.
* Yes...I am not the final authority. Totally true.
* Absolutely Yes...every official in America I thinks he blew it. In fact, I bet he feels bad about it too. Been there myself many times. It was a horrible game changing mistake.

Can you give us the language from the case book on this situation?

 

[Smashcat]

Adams is known for this crap. http://deadspin.com/sec-tournament-punctuated-by-overenthusiastic-referees-1544595219

That slo-mo is hilarious. Good background music selection too.

 

[wldktz8]

I have seen plyer get "T"ed up for throwing the ball down hard but what Hum did was not really that bad, the ref should have let that one go.

It's not like they weren't going to that end of the court anyway. If A&M was supposed to be shooting FTs and you threw it to your end of the court that would be a different matter.

 

[wldktz8]

Class A Unsporting Technical Infractions

Art. 1. A player or substitute committing an unsportsmanlike act including, but not limited to, the following:

1. Disrespectfully addressing an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
2. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.
3. Inciting undesirable crowd reaction.
4. Contacting an opponent, while the ball is dead, in an unnecessary, unacceptable and excessive manner.
5. Flagrantly (severe or extreme) contacting an opponent while the ball is dead.
6. A flagrant noncontact infraction that involves extreme, sometimes persistent, vulgar, abusive conduct when the ball is dead or live.
7. Participating after having been disqualified (noncontact flagrant 2 technical).
8. Leaving the playing court and going into the stands when a fight may break out or has broken out (flagrant noncontact infraction).
9. Fighting as in Rule 10-5.
10. Disrespectfully contacting an official
    
    
    
    
    As you can see, what Humphries did is not listed. It would fall under the discretion of the officials. Pat Adams did not have to give Humphries a T because he was excited about making a potential game winning play. Don't let anyone tell you differently. It IS NOT the rule.

1,2,3,4 happen all the time with no calls. Put on a set of headphones and listen to the game on the tv. There is profanity all over that court.

 

[wldktz8]

It actually should have been a delay of game warning and play on.

Ball was going to that end of the court anyway.

 

[3rex]

Ball was going to that end of the court anyway.

Yea, not sure where the delay of game was. That call/warning would've been about as absurd as the tech.

 

[kat57]

So many people assume it's an automatic T. Refs have the discretion to not let crap like that decide the outcome.

Only a very few think that way. The people who have no common sense think that's a rule.

 

[kat57]

Pin this.

I want out of the sec. They have big money in football, but they would lose millions without us propping them up from january to april.

They don't show appreciation to their cash cow. What would they do without KY basketball? The other schools in the SEC would soon go broke without KY going to their gym for a game. Only time they have a sell out is when KY is coming to play. T shirt makers wouldn't want to see KY gone. they would lose a lot of money.

 

[sckysportsink]

It actually should have been a delay of game warning and play on.

Agree. When a player scores a basket and slaps the ball into the photographers section in order to give his team time to set up their defense (something that actually gains his team an advantage) all he will get is a delay of game warning. Sometimes it's nothing at all. UK got no advantage at all - just a young player enjoying a should-have-been-big-play. If you need to speed the game up, have players quit slapping hands after every made (or even missed) free throw.

 

[preacherfan]

IBut to act like the ref had absolutely no basis or authority to call a T isn't true.

Of course the ref had the authority to call a T. It could have been called when Ben Hansborough did his chicken dance. It could have been called when Boogie made the phone call on the court motion. It could be called on just about every coach in every game for questioning calls or on players for throwing their hands up or "pleading their case" or dancing or screaming or gyrating. Heck, a ref can call one on the fans for booing.

The question is: What this a legit reason to call a T? The obvious answer is no.

 

[WildcatFan60]

SEC spokesman Craig Pinkerton provided the following statement in response to The Courier-Journal’s request for clarification on the call:“The official determined the Kentucky player committed an unsportsmanlike act in violation of Rule 10, Section 3, a Class A Unsporting Technical Infraction, resulting in the awarding of two free throws to Texas A&M.”

 

[CharlieT71059]

that was a bad call

 

[kat57]

awesome! Thanks for missing me.

Reading comprehension, he didn't say he missed you.

 

[3rex]

Reading comprehension, he didn't say he missed you.

 

[UKnCincy]

Class A Unsporting Technical Infractions

Art. 1. A player or substitute committing an unsportsmanlike act including, but not limited to, the following:

1. Disrespectfully addressing an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
2. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.
3. Inciting undesirable crowd reaction.
4. Contacting an opponent, while the ball is dead, in an unnecessary, unacceptable and excessive manner.
5. Flagrantly (severe or extreme) contacting an opponent while the ball is dead.
6. A flagrant noncontact infraction that involves extreme, sometimes persistent, vulgar, abusive conduct when the ball is dead or live.
7. Participating after having been disqualified (noncontact flagrant 2 technical).
8. Leaving the playing court and going into the stands when a fight may break out or has broken out (flagrant noncontact infraction).
9. Fighting as in Rule 10-5.
10. Disrespectfully contacting an official
    
    
    
    
    As you can see, what Humphries did is not listed. It would fall under the discretion of the officials. Pat Adams did not have to give Humphries a T because he was excited about making a potential game winning play. Don't let anyone tell you differently. It IS NOT the rule.

While it is a discretionary call and I would agree one that probably should have been a warning and not a technical, I also don't think we should be shocked that a technical was called. I think in the vast majority of those situations, the refs end up calling a technical and probably are justified in doing so.

The players were aware of this too. At almost the exact moment the ball leaves Humphries' hand, you see his expression change immediately to "oh sh**." And Tyler is over pleading our case before Adams can even call the technical. The guys knew the moment it happened that you're probably going to get a technical for this.

I understand that Adams has a history of being a jerk and probably should've let this one go. At the same time, our guys need to be smarter than this because this will almost always result in a technical. I imagine they'll learn from this and move on.