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Has NIL Hurt the SEC?

It’s hurting Alabama IMO. And I believe that’s why Saban spoke out against it a couple years ago
There have been 2 recruiting classes that NIL has been a big part of. 2022 and 2023. Bama had the #2 recruiting class in 2022 and the #1 recruiting class in 2023.
 
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There have been 2 recruiting classes that NIL has been a big part of. 2022 and 2023. Bama had the #2 recruiting class in 2022 and the #1 recruiting class in 2023.
I understand that. He is worried that Texas, Georgia, Tenn etc. is going to start getting even better players than before, because now they can pay them. And just because he had a high rated class doesn't mean he got every player he really wanted
 
I understand that. He is worried that Texas, Georgia, Tenn etc. is going to start getting even better players than before, because now they can pay them. And just because he had a high rated class doesn't mean he got every player he really wanted
Or that they will stay 3 or 4 years
 
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Losing coaches and lack of player development is hurting Bama, not NIL. They will pass a splosh with proceeds going to buy recruits.
A revolving door of coaches, losing 44 players (according to another poster) in 2 years to the portal, multiple guys early to the NFL, and some recruiting misses/evaluations can take you from great to good in a hurry.
 
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Saban lost & replaced coaches for 15 yrs.

Problem now is everyone knows he is about done. could retire anyday, so quality assistants are not going there. Both coordinators and all position coaches are Mid level at Bama, few future head coaches as he usually had.
 
NIL and portal are leveling the playing field.

It's a good thing long run. CFB was in danger of becoming too regionalized, almost like hockey.

The business model of relying on 8-12 programs, fan bases, markets all basically within the midwestern rustbelt and southern bible belt wasn't going to last.

Even within that area the talent and success were really concentrated.

When programs have 5- and 4-star kids relegated to practice arms and dummies, something is wrong.

Portal and NIL are making it easier and more acceptable for talent to go elsewhere.

The Bama's and UGA's will be fine. It just means that they're not going to be able to hoard talent down the depth chart anymore. They'll still fill out their 2 deep nicely.

That 3rd QB, RB, WR, CB, and DE, are going to start going other places. Which is good for CFB.
 
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A revolving door of coaches, losing 44 players (according to another poster) in 2 years to the portal, multiple guys early to the NFL, and some recruiting misses/evaluations can take you from great to good in a hurry.

I haven't looked it up, but Bama has done pretty well for themselves with the portal. Multiple top 100 RB on their yet have to hit the portal for a RB, same with OL, LB, WR. Sure they have lost some players, but when you bringing 30+ every year you have to lose some.
I just think they are not developing players like they were 3-4 years ago. But as you said it's been a revolving door those years and he has made more than one bad hire.
NIL and portal are leveling the playing field.

It's a good thing long run. CFB was in danger of becoming too regionalized, almost like hockey.

The business model of relying on 8-12 programs, fan bases, markets all basically within the midwestern rustbelt and southern bible belt wasn't going to last.

Even within that area the talent and success were really concentrated.

When programs have 5- and 4-star kids relegated to practice arms and dummies, something is wrong.

Portal and NIL are making it easier and more acceptable for talent to go elsewhere.

The Bama's and UGA's will be fine. It just means that they're not going to be able to hoard talent down the depth chart anymore. They'll still fill out their 2 deep nicely.

That 3rd QB, RB, WR, CB, and DE, are going to start going other places. Which is good for CFB.

It's good for college football? I disagree, it's the worse I can remember it ever being. When you have schools offering 60-70k a month to sign at a particular school. Schools openly tampering with other teams rosters. HS kids and their handlers demanding 5k just to visit. All of this with the only limitation being the amount of money you can spend. I just don't see how this is good for college football. Now if there were salary caps, are a penalty for tampering that's a different story.
 
Given the geographic and financial advantages currently held by the SEC (including the mega TV contracts), it can dominate for a long time.
None of that has anything to do with NIL. The TV contracts are paying for all of the other sports. The fans are the ones making payroll for them.
 
I haven't looked it up, but Bama has done pretty well for themselves with the portal. Multiple top 100 RB on their yet have to hit the portal for a RB, same with OL, LB, WR. Sure they have lost some players, but when you bringing 30+ every year you have to lose some.
I just think they are not developing players like they were 3-4 years ago. But as you said it's been a revolving door those years and he has made more than one bad hire.

It's good for college football? I disagree, it's the worse I can remember it ever being. When you have schools offering 60-70k a month to sign at a particular school. Schools openly tampering with other teams rosters. HS kids and their handlers demanding 5k just to visit. All of this with the only limitation being the amount of money you can spend. I just don't see how this is good for college football. Now if there were salary caps, are a penalty for tampering that's a different story.
That's just the nature of new. We're in the wild west phase right now. It will pass.

Caps, contracts, and free agency like rules will come naturally.

Another positive that I think is inevitable will be top talent playing in bowls and returning for a senior season as opposed to going pro because the financial risk is alleviated.

Now that players can get paid, Bowl sponsors and big advertisers will pony up to make sure star players play. It will probably get written into the collective bargaining agreement that is inevitably coming.
 
Horse has left the barn. There will not be any reversals of the freedom given to kids through the portal & NIL.

Adapt or die
You are probably right. It makes sense that you are right. But I believe it will still be a fluid topic, socially, legally, and economically. One way or another, it's going to evolve as our society evolves.
 
The next logical step in NCAA athletes getting fair treatment is direct salary/revenue sharing from their schools. That is inevitable.
 
None of that has anything to do with NIL. The TV contracts are paying for all of the other sports. The fans are the ones making payroll for them.
I was answering someone's suggestion that the domination of the SEC cannot continue. I think the SEC can remain dominant indefinitely. I gave my reasons why it can, and the TV contracts are one of the reasons. Where did you get the notion that I tied SEC dominance to NIL? I didn't. That was someone else's thinking.

One way or another, NIL will evolve as the society evolves. But the mainstream public's need for entertainment and the significance of weekends as a time for refreshment of the working man's (person's, if you prefer) spirit will continue. People live vicariously through college sports. When I was growing up, we listened to Cawood on the radio. Once cable and satellite markets became profitable, every game was available on TV. Now the SEC has its own channel, but the conference retains the rights. These evolutions in the availability of SEC sports are literally worth $billions annually to the SEC schools. Other conferences have TV revenue too, and the B10 is currently doing a great job of growing theirs. But as I said previously, the geography and financial advantages of the SEC should keep our conference in a commanding position of popularity and financial leverage for a long time.

Our conference has been managed insightfully and shrewdly. It has nothing to do with NIL. Actually, NIL may ultimately prove an impediment to the success of college athletics and, therefore, a problem for the most successful conference because NIL cannot be regulated, policed, or kept fair by the conferences or by their member schools.
 
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