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Bored today, and disgusted with my Packers, so I went down the MLB rabbit hole and ran across this: Stan Musial's 1948 season; considered one of the best of all time.
Only three times in history has a player had, in one season:
220 + hits
35 + Home runs
120 + RBI's
.360 + AVG
The other two players? Rogers Hornsby and Lou Gehrig
Truly ridiculous...
Runs - 135
Hits - 230
Home Runs - 39
Total Bases - 429 (still 6th all time)
RBI - 131
AVG - .376
OBP - .450
SLG - .702
OPS - 1.152
OPS+ - 200
WAR - 11.3
oWAR - 10.8
(and, he struck out a whopping THIRTY-FOUR times 🤣 )
It would seem that Stan Musial was, you know, pretty good at baseball.
Only three times in history has a player had, in one season:
220 + hits
35 + Home runs
120 + RBI's
.360 + AVG
The other two players? Rogers Hornsby and Lou Gehrig
Truly ridiculous...
Runs - 135
Hits - 230
Home Runs - 39
Total Bases - 429 (still 6th all time)
RBI - 131
AVG - .376
OBP - .450
SLG - .702
OPS - 1.152
OPS+ - 200
WAR - 11.3
oWAR - 10.8
(and, he struck out a whopping THIRTY-FOUR times 🤣 )
It would seem that Stan Musial was, you know, pretty good at baseball.
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My take on the Cayts basketball team:
- If we knock down threes we'll win
- If we don't we'll lose
- Need to be stronger with the ball
- Need to get 10% better at blocking out
The pitchers all threw 84 mph back then. I would have hit .250.
You wouldn't even hit a foul ball. And it's not like Musial played in the dead ball era, and teams were made up of farmers etc. He played in the Golden Era, and plenty of pitchers threw gas by then.
Not to mention that most bats weighed 45 to 50 ounces. Are you sure you could even pick that UP? LOL 😃
Not to mention that most bats weighed 45 to 50 ounces. Are you sure you could even pick that UP? LOL 😃
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This is the worst take ever posted in this thread. Seriously, Wayne.
In MLB games today, if someone even glances at the ball wrong, it gets tossed out for a brand new, fresh, clean one. When Musial played, they didn't go thru more than a few a game. Scuffs, scratches, dings, rips, tears, dirt, whatever. Just keep on playing.
Musial missed a year of service for military duty, so absent that, he would be in the 500 HR club, and would have gotten close to 4,000 hits. He's constantly overlooked when talking about the greatest players in history.
Couple this with his "newspaper" photo from the locker room and Double A went legend Saturday night. The Enforcer.
No, he isn't. He's the best player ever for one of the best and most historical baseball towns in MLB. He's on every best player top ten list as well.
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THE FAILING NEW YORK TIMES
They have a sports section?
I think one of the NFL guys stated last week that GMs were rushing to give mediocre QBs long term, awful money because that's the nature of the game. By the same token, these GMs have taken the genius approach that one average year equates to greatness, see Lawrence, Stroud and Love. But we gotta sign them to a deal!!
I think one of the NFL guys stated last week that GMs were rushing to give mediocre QBs long term, awful money because that's the nature of the game. By the same token, these GMs have taken the genius approach that one average year equates to greatness, see Lawrence, Stroud and Love. But we gotta sign them to a deal!!
Love ended up as the 11th ranked starting QB in the NFL.
Josh Jacobs and Jeff Hatley were exponentially more responsible for the Packer's paper mache regular season record.
Josh Jacobs and Jeff Hatley were exponentially more responsible for the Packer's paper mache regular season record.
You know what really grinds my gears?
When fans look at players from past eras and try to diminish their accomplishments by putting down the level of their competition. Like Wayne Dougan acting like Musial just played against a bunch of chumps and farm boys and derelicts. Maybe the level of athleticism wasn't the same in the 1950s as it is today, but baseball was the #1 sport in the country. All MLB players faced the same level of competition, and Musial clearly stood out as the best of the best within that league.
Beyond that, it also means that one day our kids/grandkids will say the same about the athletes we're watching today. So think about this post 50 years from now when your grandkid is watching grainy old videos of Lebron James, and making fun of how slow he looks, and all the short, slow, unathletic losers he played against back in the 2010s. "I could have scored 15 a game playing for the Cavs." Or so they'll say.
When fans look at players from past eras and try to diminish their accomplishments by putting down the level of their competition. Like Wayne Dougan acting like Musial just played against a bunch of chumps and farm boys and derelicts. Maybe the level of athleticism wasn't the same in the 1950s as it is today, but baseball was the #1 sport in the country. All MLB players faced the same level of competition, and Musial clearly stood out as the best of the best within that league.
Beyond that, it also means that one day our kids/grandkids will say the same about the athletes we're watching today. So think about this post 50 years from now when your grandkid is watching grainy old videos of Lebron James, and making fun of how slow he looks, and all the short, slow, unathletic losers he played against back in the 2010s. "I could have scored 15 a game playing for the Cavs." Or so they'll say.
After seeing AA in the early season, I was convinced that he would win us a few games with spot-duty 3s.
After that, he kind of struggled for the past several several weeks, but he came through big time Saturday night.
I don't think that will be the last game that we may not win without some clutch 3s from him. That game had to be a great confidence booster.
It's great to have so many guys who can contribute. As Chase said, I'd rather have 5 or 6 guys who can beat you, than one "GO TO!" guy.
Pope's roster construction is borderline amazing, knowing that he put it together in about 2 months.
After that, he kind of struggled for the past several several weeks, but he came through big time Saturday night.
I don't think that will be the last game that we may not win without some clutch 3s from him. That game had to be a great confidence booster.
It's great to have so many guys who can contribute. As Chase said, I'd rather have 5 or 6 guys who can beat you, than one "GO TO!" guy.
Pope's roster construction is borderline amazing, knowing that he put it together in about 2 months.
Calpari has a guy who's 7-foot-3, shoots 45% from behind the 3-point line, and he can't seem to figure out how to use him properly. Meanwhile, Ansley Almonor is 9th on the team in minutes, and has managed to be a very valuable asset/weapon deep off the bench.
I dig on Almonor, because he looks like he's from Brick City/Newark, and I like to imagine him firing up a blunt an hour before tip off.
Pope’s offense lends itself very well to next day tape breakdowns. Just fun to see how plays develop and the like.
It doesn't make any sense at all. The NFL has a great system with a hard cap and hard floor, meaning that if you spend an extra buck on a QB it's coming at the expense of other players on the team. Minnesota's cap hit for Darnold is $5M this year and McCarthy's cap hit is like $4M. So they're paying their QBs $9M in terms of how it impacts the rest of their team.
Meanwhile, the cap hit for Mahomes is $58.6, Dak's is $43M, Lamar Jackson's is $34M (but $70M plus in 2026). You don't even want to know what Kirk Cousins is in two years (although he'll be cut).
The big question to me is if you put a stud team together because you spread the cap around to non-QBs, what's the worst QB you could hire and still win the title? Does it still have to be a top 15 QB? A 15th-25th? Or could it be a guy in the 25th to 40th? This sort of depends on how good the guys in the 15th to 40th are relative to the top guys of course, but if we start seeing more teams win with dudes like Darnold you'll see QB salaries drop (esp. the mediocre ones).
Just watched another succesful SpaceX launch, and I pictured Bezos, just down the way at Canaveral, standing by his New Glenn rocket that is gathering cobwebs, and seeing another Falcon 9 go up, with a Sad Panda look on his face.
Good point, Wayne.
The odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl are in the following order:
* Lions +275
*Chiefs +325
* Ravens +475
*Bills +550
All of those franchises have chopped liver to mediocre talents at QB.
It has been and still is a quarterback and coaches league.
The odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl are in the following order:
* Lions +275
*Chiefs +325
* Ravens +475
*Bills +550
All of those franchises have chopped liver to mediocre talents at QB.
It has been and still is a quarterback and coaches league.
Maybe it wasn't clear what I was arguing. I wasn't saying you shouldn't pay the top guys big money. I was saying that you shouldn't pay dog shit 2nd tier QBs big money. And by the way, here are the cap hits for the starting QB of those teams. All of them are rather team friendly deals which get a lot worse over the next couple years (other than the Chiefs):
1) Lions - $27M
2) Bills - $30M
2) Ravens - $34M
3) Chiefs - $58M
Meanwhile, here are the top four duds whose teams didn't sniff the playoffs:
1) Browns - $63M
2) Cowboys - $55M
3) Cardinals - $49M
4) Giants - $47M
Not sure if Deshaun, Dak, Kyler or Daniel Jones were worth over $47M a year.
Oweh is from Newark.
Almanor is from New City NY…. Which is like 80% Hassidic Jews. Comical trips to the Costco up there on Sundays. Holy smokes.
Is the dearth of quality QB's causing this issue? Guys like Kyler and Dak were considered can't miss. Trevor Lawrence was a generational talent. Williams and Maye go top 3 between Jayden Daniels and look very average compared to what Daniels has accomplished, etc.
Just a few years ago you could measure every metric (outside of physicality) and state that Baker Mayfield was a sure fire top pick. Going to the Browns is certainly a death sentence for any QB, but it also took several years for him to find his groove.
I just don't think the era of "can't miss" picks exists anymore but the arms race at QB forces a bad situation for most GM's.
Just a few years ago you could measure every metric (outside of physicality) and state that Baker Mayfield was a sure fire top pick. Going to the Browns is certainly a death sentence for any QB, but it also took several years for him to find his groove.
I just don't think the era of "can't miss" picks exists anymore but the arms race at QB forces a bad situation for most GM's.
You sig, GYERO Chef Of The Year brought up a memory. You all remember fylm/flym, GYERO poster of yore? Worked in food service/restaurant supply, and a great cook. Whatever happened to him/does anyone still stay in contact?
Yeah, but we're not talking about bad draft picks. We're talking about dudes who have been in the league for 4 years + getting $50M per year contracts when they're not top players.
If we keep talking about NFL Wodie might never post in here again. Only movies are more repugnant to him.
I hate when I have to lead you to water like this but most everyone I mentioned in my post are top 20 QB's. The league needs 64 QB's in an ideal situation. If you can't go past the top 10 before hitting a bit of a cliff, there's a dearth of good QB's in the league which means you have to take a risk either drafting one or signing one (I'm thinking Darnold and Daniels here), and you do so with the expectation that you will be paying north of 30 million a year eventually at minimum.
You could make the same argument for MLB and NBA. Does a non-starter averaging 12 points a game deserve 20+ million a year? Probably not, but that's what the price tag is now.
I’m not trying to start a fight here, but chips and……
salsa > cheese > guac.
It just is what it is.
salsa > cheese > guac.
It just is what it is.
You can’t just pick and choose on those contracts though, and timing absolutely has a huge impact.
For example Daniel Jones had just led his NYG to the playoffs and upset the Vikings after which the NYG didn’t have a great pick in a draft that wasn’t loaded and there were no real FA QB options. So signing him to what is the league norm was required and he went to 💩 because their OL was trash and Barkley was often injured too.
Kyler was extended under Kingsbury where the offense put up points when he was healthy, again bad timing for his time to be up for a new deal.
The Browns are the Browns.
As for Dak, well that’s just typical Cowboy mismanagement and wanting to be glamorous more than win.
Paying those guys may not be smart, but not having anyone better has an option really limits those teams knowing in FA they’d get the same if not more.
If you to at least have a competent guy back there.
Fast forward to April and what do you think the Titans should do with a 2 year vet in Levis that’s an affordable option. Should they bail on him and draft a QB #1 overall that could also end up a bust, or ride it out with Levis.
For example Daniel Jones had just led his NYG to the playoffs and upset the Vikings after which the NYG didn’t have a great pick in a draft that wasn’t loaded and there were no real FA QB options. So signing him to what is the league norm was required and he went to 💩 because their OL was trash and Barkley was often injured too.
Kyler was extended under Kingsbury where the offense put up points when he was healthy, again bad timing for his time to be up for a new deal.
The Browns are the Browns.
As for Dak, well that’s just typical Cowboy mismanagement and wanting to be glamorous more than win.
Paying those guys may not be smart, but not having anyone better has an option really limits those teams knowing in FA they’d get the same if not more.
If you to at least have a competent guy back there.
Fast forward to April and what do you think the Titans should do with a 2 year vet in Levis that’s an affordable option. Should they bail on him and draft a QB #1 overall that could also end up a bust, or ride it out with Levis.
But what is the alternative? The Dolphins paid Tua and the 49ers are going to pay Purdy because they know that those guys, though not perfect, give them a chance. The alternative would be to take a chance on a retread or true unknown and that could be much worse.
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