GYERO

[Catman100]

I am still very concerned that in 3 of our last 5 games, with 4 of those being against major conference teams, we haven't shot the 3 at better than 28%.

With the exception of our next game, major conference teams are all we have left. Really concerned that tougher, athletic and physical players will keep that trend going in that direction.

10-9 is very possible the rest of the way. Hopefully not.

 

[btodd0224]

Was ambushed this morning about my regular plan of fishing Xmas morning after the Princess opens her gifts and before my kids and grandkids come over for Xmas dinner. Several of my kids don’t think it’s right and said I should be helping get everything ready for the dinner.

Told them I fish every Xmas and if they didn’t like it, too effing bad. All I have to do is the prime ribs and I’d be back in time. If you’re so worried, then get here earlier and do it your damn selves or stay the eff home. I’m fishing from 9-2 and deal with it. Hate it when people try to tell me what I’m going to do and not do.
If it’s brought up Xmas, I’ve got a nice surprise for them all, I’ll just go to the Cayman Islands next year. That’ll shut down the bitching or I’ll be in a tropical paradise, not seeing a down side either way. Ungrateful bastards, wouldn’t even be on the planet if it wasn’t for me.

 

[B Rax]

sheesh

 

[cut_itloosedoubledeuce]

Was ambushed this morning about my regular plan of fishing Xmas morning after the Princess opens her gifts and before my kids and grandkids come over for Xmas dinner. Several of my kids don’t think it’s right and said I should be helping get everything ready for the dinner.

Told them I fish every Xmas and if they didn’t like it, too effing bad. All I have to do is the prime ribs and I’d be back in time. If you’re so worried, then get here earlier and do it your damn selves or stay the eff home. I’m fishing from 9-2 and deal with it. Hate it when people try to tell me what I’m going to do and not do.
If it’s brought up Xmas, I’ve got a nice surprise for them all, I’ll just go to the Cayman Islands next year. That’ll shut down the bitching or I’ll be in a tropical paradise, not seeing a down side either way. Ungrateful bastards, wouldn’t even be on the planet if it wasn’t for me.

Do you celebrate Festivus?

 

[catsfanbgky]

Pope is still learning this group and will have to adjust his style or get our guys to adjust more.

When things get real and tough, players are going to do what they are most comfortable with…and we start 4 dudes who would rather get it to the basket than stretch the floor with a bomb.

Popes BYU team had a 5 at least willing/capable of shooting a 3 and 4s who’d rather shoot 3s. Carr is shooting half the amount of 3s he shot last year…the 5 isn’t getting enough up. Oweh is forcing drives. Gotta get to trusting the system. Big reason why Robinson was (-5) vs OSU and Oweh was (-26!).

Chandler - thought Osu was first game against a real team he looked comfortable with ball in hands. Didn’t play hot potato, played tough D. He is in convo for best athlete on team - I think he will come on and when he does, it’ll be quick. May take a year after missing 2 of game speed, but he will be good. Euro step, vertical leap, shot, height…has great tools.

BS on the +/- with Robinson and Oweh.
Oweh 4/13 0/1 3FG 13/13 from the line
Robinson 3/11 2/7 from 3 2/2 from the line
Oweh took 2 more shots than Robinson, but scored 11 more points.
The +/- is absolutely bullshit, Oweh was aggressive and trying to do things when his shot wasn't falling (13/13 from the line says so), Robinson just jacks 3 after 3, bad shot after bad shot, ZERO assist and steals. I just do not get why some want to give Robinson a pass. He in no way shape or form played better than Oweh, IDGAF if the +/- was +40 for him. He takes the WORST shots and too many shots period on the team. He can't guard a fence post. But yeah, you keep using +/- to form your opinion, I will use the eye test. Has Robinson even shot 13 free throws on the year ? Much less one game. Maybe instead of jacking missed 3 after missed 3, he needs to force drives and get to the line, insanity and all that, keep doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. Robinson keeps firing terrible off balanced, guarded 3s and bricking them. LOL, one guy jacks 3s and does nothing else, one plays his ass off and gets to the line to shoot 13 free throws but because he had a bad +/- stat, he played bad ? MAYBE the other 4 players on the court with him was the reason for the -26. Classic example of stat geek not knowing WTF is up. Give me Oweh every time over Robinson and it is not even remotely close.

 

[VernHatton52]

I haven't seen Iowa St. play yet. What type of team are they?

 

[Catman100]

BS on the +/- with Robinson and Oweh.
Oweh 4/13 0/1 3FG 13/13 from the line
Robinson 3/11 2/7 from 3 2/2 from the line
Oweh took 2 more shots than Robinson, but scored 11 more points.
The +/- is absolutely bullshit, Oweh was aggressive and trying to do things when his shot wasn't falling (13/13 from the line says so), Robinson just jacks 3 after 3, bad shot after bad shot, ZERO assist and steals. I just do not get why some want to give Robinson a pass. He in no way shape or form played better than Oweh, IDGAF if the +/- was +40 for him. He takes the WORST shots and too many shots period on the team. He can't guard a fence post. But yeah, you keep using +/- to form your opinion, I will use the eye test. Has Robinson even shot 13 free throws on the year ? Much less one game. Maybe instead of jacking missed 3 after missed 3, he needs to force drives and get to the line, insanity and all that, keep doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. Robinson keeps firing terrible off balanced, guarded 3s and bricking them. LOL, one guy jacks 3s and does nothing else, one plays his ass off and gets to the line to shoot 13 free throws but because he had a bad +/- stat, he played bad ? MAYBE the other 4 players on the court with him was the reason for the -26. Classic example of stat geek not knowing WTF is up. Give me Oweh every time over Robinson and it is not even remotely close.

Yea I am not a +/- guy either. An individual stat that may have a lot to do with the other 4 guys on the floor with him. He might be doing a lot of good things and the other 4 playing like trash.

 

[catsfanbgky]

Yea I am not a +/- guy either. An individual stat that may have a lot to do with the other 4 guys on the floor with him. He might be doing a lot of good things and the other 4 playing like trash.

He shot 13 free throws (hit them all), so obviously he wasn't just settling for 3's. He tried to get to the rim, missed some, got fouled some. That is a sign of trying. Robinson just sits back and launches 3's. Look at the 2 FG attempts and 3FG attempts between the 2 players. One player is taking the easy route, the other guy is trying and making things happen, playing aggressive. The resuts speak for themself, look at all the stats (other thsan +/-, Oweh owns Robinson, better shooting % from 2FG and 3FG, more free throws taken, better % on FT's.

 

[btodd0224]

I’ve fished on Xmas for years, it’s not like they don’t know this. It’s keeps me sane for when I have to be around them. I can’t drink anymore, so it’s fishing or a handful of Valiums. Forty some odd kids, grandkids and their spouses, you bet I’m gonna need to fish.

 

[TriangleUKCat]

Santa needs to give several in here the gift of “learning a hard return/what a paragraph is”

Good grief

 

[anthonys735]

Santa needs to give several in here the gift of “learning a hard return/what a paragraph is”

Good grief

Not really. Very few here should ever combine enough words to justify a paragraph.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

BS on the +/- with Robinson and Oweh.
Oweh 4/13 0/1 3FG 13/13 from the line
Robinson 3/11 2/7 from 3 2/2 from the line
Oweh took 2 more shots than Robinson, but scored 11 more points.
The +/- is absolutely bullshit, Oweh was aggressive and trying to do things when his shot wasn't falling (13/13 from the line says so), Robinson just jacks 3 after 3, bad shot after bad shot, ZERO assist and steals. I just do not get why some want to give Robinson a pass. He in no way shape or form played better than Oweh, IDGAF if the +/- was +40 for him. He takes the WORST shots and too many shots period on the team. He can't guard a fence post. But yeah, you keep using +/- to form your opinion, I will use the eye test. Has Robinson even shot 13 free throws on the year ? Much less one game. Maybe instead of jacking missed 3 after missed 3, he needs to force drives and get to the line, insanity and all that, keep doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. Robinson keeps firing terrible off balanced, guarded 3s and bricking them. LOL, one guy jacks 3s and does nothing else, one plays his ass off and gets to the line to shoot 13 free throws but because he had a bad +/- stat, he played bad ? MAYBE the other 4 players on the court with him was the reason for the -26. Classic example of stat geek not knowing WTF is up. Give me Oweh every time over Robinson and it is not even remotely close.

You can huff and puff all ya want - and I don’t think you’re worth arguing with…but there’s something to be said for knowing and playing within a system.

Maybe it was a one game fluke…but Robinson played 32 minutes…while he was on the court, we scored 1.88 per min - off the court 0.70. While he was on we had 11 assists…when he was off for 8 mins, we had 0.

I don’t blame Oweh - he’s a huge success. But he needs to become a more willing 3p shooter for spacing (as does Carr).

On +/-…certainly the guys you’re on the court matter, but we have a pretty tight rotation. And RE: Robinson - he was the only guy in the positive in the 1H (and happened to play the most minutes). He sat 4 minutes and we lost by 10 in those 4 mins….probably shouldn’t be shitting on him too much.

 

[CSC81]

Young man been hitting the rap game pretty hard lately. Keeps asking me whom my favorite rapper is, and every time my gut reaction is Kast.

Finally decided to let him listen to ATLiens today, and I forgot just how hard that album goes…

Dope Boyz…followed by ATLiens…followed by Wheelz…followed by Jazzy (best song on the album)…followed by Me & You…then you still have E.T. and 13th floor down the tracks.

DAY UM

 

[krazykats]

Not even their best album either.

 

[CSC81]

Agree.

 

[VernHatton52]

OutKast transcend hip-hop. They are the Sly and the Family Stone of our generation, true music makers.

 

[CSC81]

The Art of Organized Noize might be my favorite music documentary. No hyperbole.

Also a little sad because you see the downfall, but, man, those glory years…

#dungeonfamilyforlife

 

[VernHatton52]

Tight like hallways
Smoked out always

 

[jayroon]

-Pope show was interesting tonight.

-Had prerecorded it but ended up deciding to do it live and in person.

-Big defensive issue was how poorly we “iced” pnrs-they were 7/7 on possessions where we screwed that up and they rejected the ball screen.

-We had numbers in transition but converted only 5/13 of those possessions; that’s not like us.

-The zone was somewhat effective but I would’ve stuck with it through the entire possessions, we were switching to man instead and that wasn’t working.

-Biggest issue to me was Butler’s foul trouble/ineffectiveness. First game we really missed Kerr.

-First time I have seen us switch ball screens for stretches and when we did they did a nice job of hunting Brea and attacking him.

-Guys were straying away from the offense when we got down and tried to do too much themselves instead of trusting the system.

-We made some runs but would mess them up by with things like missing a layup like Robinson did or the no look Oweh tried to BG; they they seemingly got points on the other end every time we did something like that that compounded our issues.

-Folks are saying Caleb signed some of his paperwork with us (whatever that means).

 

[jayroon]

Announcement date was delayed due to the death of a family friend.

 

[B.B.d.K.]

ATLiens is *NOT* OutKast best album. It’s a classic & outstanding, but probably #3. I’d hear an argument for #2. The most common simpleton take in Rap imo- and a clear indicator of being #late. Jmo, but also correct.

Southernplayalistic…is *flawless* + has 2 all timer bops. It created an entire sound & movement, Organized Noise perfection.

-Merry Christmas, Hyman Clown. You staying up? 👀

 

[CSC81]

Hey, dk, buddy, good to see you around here again…

GFY.

ATLiens is an elite album. Point blank. Period.

 

[B.B.d.K.]

Absolutely. All timer

Just my experience that your average ATLiens clear cut worshiper started there, bc of timing (college) and likely missed the first one. #93

Also, fun fact. This is a Christmas Song. 🥰



….

But yeah, no 2 songs stack (pun intended), and the entire album, as was typical in 92-95 rap, was just peak. I appreciate their evolution through Aquemini before it started getting a lil weird, but the first one was just different, loose, & raw. JMO

 

[CSC81]

Nah, I knew about Southern. Had the CD (remember those? 😂). ATL just hit harder for me.

Player’s being a “Christmas song” is still hilarious to me.

 

[HymanKaplan]

No secret that Redman is my top guy.

 

[B.B.d.K.]

Oh, and Goodie Mob’s ‘95 debut kept the wave,

Organized Noise was just silly during that run, They also produced TLC’s Waterfalls that year, which was probably the biggest pop song.

It carried over into ATLiens, just in a different direction. I miss those days

 

[VernHatton52]

OutKast had a 5 album run that sort of mimics that of the Beatles.

Southernplayalistic was their Revolver
ATLiens was their Rubber Soul
Aquemini was their Sgt. Pepper's
Stankonia was their White Album
Speakerboxx/Love Below was their Abbey Road

 

[CastleRubric]

Gotta do everything you can to secure Australia at the outset. Easily defended. Then the North and South America combo. Stay out of Asia until the end when you have overwhelming numbers.

I PREACH THIS TOO -
My record since playing w/family & friends from decades ago is TRENDING UP actually -

I currently stand at 6 Risk Wins and Approximately 121 Losses
I'm always Red though

 

[CastleRubric]

You can't stay out of Asia because the Asia ruler getting mad reinforcements every time it's his turn. Once he attacks Indonesia it's your ass. Gotta bunker down in Siam and load up there and hope nobody pays attention to you.

Dude - I'm always pushing for alternate rules and whatnot -- mod's to the game
All 4 older bro'a look at this as blasphemy - and maybe unAmerican somehow

We do chain free moves after your turn is over
And we play a version where everyone starts w/just. 1 army per nation

 

[CastleRubric]

I haven't seen Iowa St. play yet. What type of team are they?

I can never take them seriously

When I was stationed in NE - my barber was a proud Iowa St fan
AND - he always reminded me they're a "RASSLIN' SCHOOL"

You'll NEVER have nice things, Cyclones
Naming your landlocked team after a sea based weather anomaly is also pretty lame, Iowegians

 

[anthonys735]

 

[august-west]

that pizza cost me 60 dimes but whatever, I’m a nice MF’er….classic Prez.

 

[cole854]

OutKast had a 5 album run that sort of mimics that of the Beatles.

The only mimick in this comparison was the # of albums....otherwise, you may as well be comparing Nickleback to the Stones.

Good grief.

 

[VernHatton52]

I stand by my statement. Now go down in your basement, pop open a Coors Light, crank up your Diamond Rio Xmas album, enjoy the holidays and STFU!

 

[DoubleSecretProbation]

You can't stay out of Asia because the Asia ruler getting mad reinforcements every time it's his turn. Once he attacks Indonesia it's your ass. Gotta bunker down in Siam and load up there and hope nobody pays attention to you.

Well obviously that’s what I meant. You establish your defensive perimeter for Australia in Asia. The Alaska entry to North America too.

Nerds!

 

[Catman100]

Well obviously that’s what I meant. You establish your defensive perimeter for Australia in Asia. The Alaska entry to North America too.

Nerds!

Word!
LMAO

 

[anthonys735]

Let's leave Diamond Rio out of this, k?

 

[Irish Beck]

Merry Christmas eve, ya filthy animals.

 

[ThroughBlue]

None of those albums stand up to GKMC

 

[Kooky Kats]

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It is always refreshing to see Jewish guys saying (without hesitation), “Merry Christmas.” whilst doing very ‘Christian’ acts of kindness.

Portnoy is a good dude.