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Zackery gonna have some stories to tell tomorrow when he's doing oil changes down at the Quik Lube.
Damn, what an absolute gut punch the last 4 days have been. F**K me.
Please drop the rape whistle stuff though. it's a bad look. We got punched repeatedly in the face for the first time, and didn't get off the canvas. It happens. It SUCKS, but it happens.
Bonus: My excitement level for the Gonzaga game just got a margin call. Counterpoint - If we go on a tear and win, this is forgotten.
Please drop the rape whistle stuff though. it's a bad look. We got punched repeatedly in the face for the first time, and didn't get off the canvas. It happens. It SUCKS, but it happens.
Bonus: My excitement level for the Gonzaga game just got a margin call. Counterpoint - If we go on a tear and win, this is forgotten.
Well we aren't gonna win em all and Clemson threw a lot of crap in.
But free throws are a concern.
And Pope is not perfect. Not sure why Brea barely played second half.
But free throws are a concern.
And Pope is not perfect. Not sure why Brea barely played second half.
Only dipshit Roger Ayers could turn this into an endless review.
We missed 19 threes and 7 fts. Despite poor first half rebounding, we are now about even. They haven’t hit 70 yet. We just missed shots.
He passed up a friggin 3 that ate 10 seconds off the clock.
What hurts though, is that I thought we had enough answers to overcome a shooting night like that by using backdoors etc. Clearly that was, at this point, a little unrealistic. But hopefully we learned a lot from this.
Can overcome missing 3’s. FT shooting usually always gets ya though.
Sucks, but in fairness, we clearly had the toughest assignment on the night looking at the matchups and home v. away.
A physical opponent is our weakness, especially if they get away with a lot of crap.
The refs affected the flow of that game. I hate to be that guy, but it’s true. It’s hard to run your stuff when you are are being held/shoved/kicked/tripped when you try to get to your spot to set a screen/get a handoff. If you’re not going to call that, everything grinds to halt and shot selection becomes piss poor.
Just shit down their legs.
Krissa can’t run the point and makes dumb decisions. Doesn’t get set when he shoots the 3. Got beat so many times it’s ridiculous.
Brea??? Just disappeared offensively.
What happened to all the movement and screening!
Not enough inside out in the first half.
Not even gonna mention the officiating.
Defense gave up too many straight drives.
Out rebounded by a 6’8” honk.
No flowing offense = can’t get decent looks.
Couldn’t buy a 3.
Still like my team but really stunk it up, for a veteran team. Could really use another point guard.
Krissa can’t run the point and makes dumb decisions. Doesn’t get set when he shoots the 3. Got beat so many times it’s ridiculous.
Brea??? Just disappeared offensively.
What happened to all the movement and screening!
Not enough inside out in the first half.
Not even gonna mention the officiating.
Defense gave up too many straight drives.
Out rebounded by a 6’8” honk.
No flowing offense = can’t get decent looks.
Couldn’t buy a 3.
Still like my team but really stunk it up, for a veteran team. Could really use another point guard.
Even if the refs call it, we get taken out of the flow of our offense, the clock stoppages allow the opponent to rest, and we suck at free throws. It’s the strategy we’re going to see moving forward.
Refs were inconsistent and borderline shitty but you can’t leave 7 pts at the line in a 1 possession game.
A lot of what you listed is exactly what we're going to get a steady diet of, on the road in the SEC. So, we know what we have to work on.
Also, don’t get manhandled on the glass in the first half.
I thought all of Butler’s fouls were legit and he has to know better.
I thought all of Butler’s fouls were legit and he has to know better.
And, to those of you on here that, early on, questioned Kriisa, and said that he's taking too many of Butlers minutes; you pretty much nailed it.
I don't think for one second that Clemson is a better team than us, but they are definitely a bad match up for our team. Which was compounded by having to play them there, and that this was our first true road game.
I don't think for one second that Clemson is a better team than us, but they are definitely a bad match up for our team. Which was compounded by having to play them there, and that this was our first true road game.
- Shooting variance game. It’s going to happen.
- Officiating absolutely affected that one. Turns out it’s hard to run offense when your arms are held every time you move. Think it kind of just exhausted us, tbh. And we still got mostly good looks, except for a couple spots where we looked bogged down.. again, because they were holding us every single play.
- Possible legit concern is that Kriisa looked terrible in this kind of game, which I didn’t expect. He should be able to give us minutes and not be unplayable.
- Not sure I see the issue people have with Williams. We’d be cooked without him in a game like this.
- Almonor probably could’ve gotten a bit more run.
- Butler continues to be just a pure baller.
- Long term, this doesn’t change anything for us. Think the Duke game may have overinflated expectations a bit. We’re flawed like everybody else. We’re going to lose a few more like this. I’m going to enjoy this team and how they play.
- Still don’t care that we don’t have a “guy who can get his own shot.”
- Officiating absolutely affected that one. Turns out it’s hard to run offense when your arms are held every time you move. Think it kind of just exhausted us, tbh. And we still got mostly good looks, except for a couple spots where we looked bogged down.. again, because they were holding us every single play.
- Possible legit concern is that Kriisa looked terrible in this kind of game, which I didn’t expect. He should be able to give us minutes and not be unplayable.
- Not sure I see the issue people have with Williams. We’d be cooked without him in a game like this.
- Almonor probably could’ve gotten a bit more run.
- Butler continues to be just a pure baller.
- Long term, this doesn’t change anything for us. Think the Duke game may have overinflated expectations a bit. We’re flawed like everybody else. We’re going to lose a few more like this. I’m going to enjoy this team and how they play.
- Still don’t care that we don’t have a “guy who can get his own shot.”
Said it last week and was roasted for it. Kid does absolutely nothing well except run his mouth. Maybe he is on his 3rd team for a reason. Now I’m gonna pull a Clown and say that I won’t bring him up again, it should be obvious at this point how I feel about him.
Spot on. THIS is our Achilles Heel... (and august-west's criticism of Kriisa, which is 100 percent spot on, speaks to this directly)
People got frustrated with Williams (we can't have him turning it over 4 times, and he is DISMAL at the foul line, I get it), but he and Oweh were the only players that kept us from getting OBLITERATED on the boards.
The fact that Butler played less than one half of basketball, and we only lost by 4, AT Clemson is a the best/most encouraging takeaway from this game. He has to be in there for 30 plus minutes a game, EVERY game. With Butler in, we CAN overcome a game where we shoot like crap from three. Without him? It's gonna be very tough.
I also think that Butler is what makes or breaks Carr's game. Carr played like poop, but not having Butler in the game has a seriously negative effect on his productivity.
After looking at the stats/digesting the game, I feel a helluva lot better than I did a couple of hours ago.
BUT! Williams, Garrison, and Butler need to be putting up HUNDREDS of FT's on their own time. Williams' form is cringe inducing, and you just can't have your starting PG hitting 64 percent from the line. As athletic as he is, that HAS to be correctable, and if he IS going to be playing 30 minutes a game, he's gonna be taking a LOT of them.
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Almonor didn’t play physical and didn’t get one rebound in 13 minutes.
Oweh, other than the 4 turnovers, is just consistent every game.
Carr should have been more patient on his moves inside, instead of just throwing up off balance shots. Would have gotten to the line more with a chance for an and one.
Just an all around bad night for a lot of veterans.
Still a really good team, just threw in a clunker I didn’t expect from them. Don’t foresee that happening often, unless Butler gets in foul trouble.
Pope will get this worked out with a veteran squad and they’ll continue to improve. Really surprised by this 3 point shooting percentage the last few games. Too many good shooters for that to continue or become a problem.
I’m still good with my team. Breath of fresh air after the last 7-8 years. Let’s see how we bounce back again the Zags. Expect a nice win as a statement. They got punched and will have something to prove.
Oweh, other than the 4 turnovers, is just consistent every game.
Carr should have been more patient on his moves inside, instead of just throwing up off balance shots. Would have gotten to the line more with a chance for an and one.
Just an all around bad night for a lot of veterans.
Still a really good team, just threw in a clunker I didn’t expect from them. Don’t foresee that happening often, unless Butler gets in foul trouble.
Pope will get this worked out with a veteran squad and they’ll continue to improve. Really surprised by this 3 point shooting percentage the last few games. Too many good shooters for that to continue or become a problem.
I’m still good with my team. Breath of fresh air after the last 7-8 years. Let’s see how we bounce back again the Zags. Expect a nice win as a statement. They got punched and will have something to prove.
Watching the replay, this isn’t a bad loss at all.
If you would have told me in the preseason that we would lose one of our 3 ACC games, I would choose this one.
Clempson played one of their best games, while we basically hit our floor last night. I’ll take it. The other team hitting half a dozen prayer shots, banking in threes, several players shoot out of their minds, our starting PG was hurt and in fouls trouble, our bench disappeared, we couldn’t shoot, blah blah blah. Not to mention the refs were awful.
It wasn’t a bad loss at all, if anything, it gives Pope and opportunity to adjust while we are still in that period where he can.
I like my team, we went into a shitty box gym that was their Super Bowl, and only lost by 4, with everything that went against us. We beat that team 7-8 times out of 10.
It was like an SEC 9pm road game, something that you can’t simulate nor reproduce. The experience should help us come SEC play.
Now I fully expect us to be focused against Gonzaga. They are likely the 1 seed out west, and I’m excited to see how we bounce back after arguably the worst game of the year.
10pm tip, right after a 9:30 tip. Wow
We haven’t played a great game all year, hopefully we come out Saturday and have a chip on our shoulders.
Our schedule is turning out to be much tougher than I originally thought, in a good way. We are getting valuable experience while preparing for an SEC gauntlet.
For once in a long time, I’m not mad about this loss much at all. These guys know that we could have won that game, and everyone now sees how to beat us, play great while we play like a$$. Good luck.
If you would have told me in the preseason that we would lose one of our 3 ACC games, I would choose this one.
Clempson played one of their best games, while we basically hit our floor last night. I’ll take it. The other team hitting half a dozen prayer shots, banking in threes, several players shoot out of their minds, our starting PG was hurt and in fouls trouble, our bench disappeared, we couldn’t shoot, blah blah blah. Not to mention the refs were awful.
It wasn’t a bad loss at all, if anything, it gives Pope and opportunity to adjust while we are still in that period where he can.
I like my team, we went into a shitty box gym that was their Super Bowl, and only lost by 4, with everything that went against us. We beat that team 7-8 times out of 10.
It was like an SEC 9pm road game, something that you can’t simulate nor reproduce. The experience should help us come SEC play.
Now I fully expect us to be focused against Gonzaga. They are likely the 1 seed out west, and I’m excited to see how we bounce back after arguably the worst game of the year.
10pm tip, right after a 9:30 tip. Wow
We haven’t played a great game all year, hopefully we come out Saturday and have a chip on our shoulders.
Our schedule is turning out to be much tougher than I originally thought, in a good way. We are getting valuable experience while preparing for an SEC gauntlet.
For once in a long time, I’m not mad about this loss much at all. These guys know that we could have won that game, and everyone now sees how to beat us, play great while we play like a$$. Good luck.
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Robinson is not a prime time player. This team is not going far if he can’t be at least half as good as he has been against teams with a pulse. Kerr is a huge liability. Brea has to be a bigger part of the offense. Pope needs to make some adjustments on both sides of the ball. Why they did not zone any last night is baffling. Not a terrible loss but a game they should have won.
Schieffelin had -ZERO- fouls in 36 minutes.
We lack a lot of athleticism, which was a concern coming into the season. But at the end of the day we had a TON of wide open looks and missed damn near every single one. And missed FTs on top of it. There is no reason for us to be a bad FT shooting team or miss open shots. What an annoying game.
One more made three and sink a couple free throws and we walk out of there with the W. Whatever
We did get bullied a little. We should be expecting more of that when we get into the meat of the SEC.
Hopefully we can shoot better Sat or it won’t be as close. But I feel like against Gonzaga it should be a much fluid offensive game as they aren’t going to try and muck it up, that’s not their style either.
We did get bullied a little. We should be expecting more of that when we get into the meat of the SEC.
Hopefully we can shoot better Sat or it won’t be as close. But I feel like against Gonzaga it should be a much fluid offensive game as they aren’t going to try and muck it up, that’s not their style either.
Few more points:
- My takeaway from the Duke game was to temper my expectations slightly for this year, but raise them for the future.
- Robinson was 5-13 for 12 points. He was fine.
- Real problem was we had to play Kriisa 21 minutes in a game in which he was hemorrhaging points on both ends.
- (also Garrison had a -20 in 12 minutes - little unfair to him, but still).
- If one of several things goes differently, we win - but that's basketball. Sometimes things break your way (like Duke missing several would-be dagger 3s) and sometimes they don't. It's about margin of error in college basketball, and we appear to have a fairly sizeable one. We're just in the mix as anyone else, save maybe a couple teams at the top.
- My takeaway from the Duke game was to temper my expectations slightly for this year, but raise them for the future.
- Robinson was 5-13 for 12 points. He was fine.
- Real problem was we had to play Kriisa 21 minutes in a game in which he was hemorrhaging points on both ends.
- (also Garrison had a -20 in 12 minutes - little unfair to him, but still).
- If one of several things goes differently, we win - but that's basketball. Sometimes things break your way (like Duke missing several would-be dagger 3s) and sometimes they don't. It's about margin of error in college basketball, and we appear to have a fairly sizeable one. We're just in the mix as anyone else, save maybe a couple teams at the top.
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The thing about Kerr is I think he tries to give effort defensively. He just sucks at it.
Wait a second....Stoops didn't make ANY changes to his staff? Like, NONE?
Or is he just waiting until after Signing Day is over?
Please tell me it's the latter.
Or is he just waiting until after Signing Day is over?
Please tell me it's the latter.
My eyebrows were raised during one of Pope's recent post-game interviews. He said something to the effect of I'll tell Kerr to do something and he just ignores me and does whatever he wants and it's really brilliant and actually beautiful and he's so great.
Stoops might as well wear a burglar costume all next season.
*I had liked what Kerr brought to the team in terms of having that "dawg" in him and being a disrupter...until this game. Damn, was he exposed last night. Jacked up a bunch of low-percentage threes and got beat by his man seemingly every time down the court. Did he borrow BVG's pen last night or what??? I'm concerned that he is just not up to the task of backing up Butler against high-end competition.
*Is Pope still instituting his defensive scheme? There seemed to be zero help in the interior when a defender got beat on a drive after Clemson drew us all out to the perimeter on defense. Can the bigs sag a little to be in position to help?
*Is Pope still instituting his defensive scheme? There seemed to be zero help in the interior when a defender got beat on a drive after Clemson drew us all out to the perimeter on defense. Can the bigs sag a little to be in position to help?
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