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Guitar players: feedback on Telecaster

gamecockcat

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Thinking of buying a Tele or Tele-style guitar. I play blues, country rock and classic rock. I'm thinking right now either a HS or even HH configuration as I have a hard time with the single pole hum and the twang of the bridge SP. I'm not going to spend 1000s on a custom Fender. Have perused the Squier 70s vintage with the HS and they've received solid reviews. Have played on a 9.5" radius Tele and the neck felt great, which is one reason I'm leaning that way now. I know other guitar brands have their own version but have almost no knowledge of how they sound

1. Anyone play a P-90 Tele and, if so, pros and cons?
2. Non-Fender Tele style you'd recommend?
3. Is a Tele even the right guitar for what I play or should I look elsewhere?

Two SS amps (Peavey and Blackstar) with several pedals although I believe less is more.

All advice is welcome. Thanks.
 
I would think for blues the Strat would be the play. Looking myself, will prob get one of the Squire Strat versions to start to see how I like it.
 
I have lots of things to say, but I'm working...

+1 for P90s

In the meantime, take a look at the Schecter teles.
Schecter makes very good guitars at a very reasonable price point. You can get high quality guitars in a variety of styles for < $800 all day. I've played on a few but never owned one. They have/had a reputation as shred machines with active PUs which is not my cup of tea. But their PT (Tele) and LP clone are supposed to be top notch.
 
What kind of reputation do G&L Tribute guitars have? They have a Bluesboy model priced under $700. My experience with a P-90 is a Epiphone Elitist Casino. I love it. Can't envision it being a blues guitar, though.
 
Schecter makes very good guitars at a very reasonable price point. You can get high quality guitars in a variety of styles for < $800 all day. I've played on a few but never owned one. They have/had a reputation as shred machines with active PUs which is not my cup of tea. But their PT (Tele) and LP clone are supposed to be top notch.
I craigslist traded for a Tempest Blackjack, probably 15 years ago. Awesome guitar, but it was way too hot for me, so I traded it away. I'd take it back now, though, and just swap the pickups. It had good bones. It was the Blackjack series from the late 2000s with the SD's and Blackjack playing cards in the fingerboard...


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I have played a Schecter T-style and I'd own one if I didn't already have so many Telecasters. Probably would have saved me a bunch of money (story and info coming).
 
During CV boredom, I decided I'd "modded" my last factory guitar and decided to learn to build partscasters and just make exactly what I thought I wanted. Anyway, 5 years later and I now own 4 partscaster teles... It seems I'd rather play Legos with them than play them.

What I've learned-
1) I don't like humbuckers in a telecaster (or a strat). I've tried and tried. Not PAFs, not slightly over or under-wound, not split... I just can't get that tone out of a telecaster HB like I can with a LP and there's always that tele twang coloring the distortion. And if I take the pains to make a tele sound like a LP, it's no longer anything that remotely resembles a tele, tone-wise. I can put lesser HB's in a LP and make it sound better than better humbuckers in the tele, if that makes sense.

2) I like P90s in a tele and I like Filter'Trons in a tele. However, I found that those p/u configs yield a very limited 1-trick pony-type tone. Therefore, I prefer the spank of a slightly overwound (~7.5-8k), true tele bridge over a P90 bridge, but I like a vintage P90 in the neck. Now, if you want something close to a HB sound from a tele-style bridge p/u, they make those, too. The DiMarzio Chopper (mini HB) and the Area-T "Hot" (Stacked/noiseless SC) are both very hot and supposed to be tone-modeled to replicate a PAF HB when distorted, but can be dialed back down to spanky levels when needed.

3) I have a storage box full of pickups I've bought and tried over the years. P90s might be the hardest to choose. IDK why, but it seems they're the most prone to having frequency spike variances, meaning 2 pickups from different manufacturers with nearly identical specs will sound completely different, where one will be mellow or mid-rang-honky and the other an icepick to the ear. Need to know what you like and what you want. Lots of research.

4) If you really want a Tele with p90s, or especially if you want a mix of p/us (p90 +Tele bridge) I'd buy it that way. Mainly b/c you'll play hell trying to match poalrity and wind direction of a normal tele p/u and a P90, they're allover the place (even inside the same manufacturer) b/c they don't get paired that often. Also, wiring can be a headache b/c some p90s want a 330+k pot w/o sounding muddy... and that value is too high for a tele bridge w/o bleeding it off with a resistor. But, if you want to mod or build, Seymour Duncan has this p/u setup on lockdown. While the DiMarzio Twang King bridge is my idea of the epitome of tele sound, SD's LaBrea is really, really close. But SD's "Antiquity" P90s are golden, imo.

5) There is always the HB-shaped p90s, too. Not really p90s, but they come close. Fat p90s. I have a set of Tonerider Rebel 90s in another LP. They're a unique tone and they take dirt better than a tru p90.

6) Have you considered a JazzMaster? Those pickups are very p90-like - less grit, more bottom and more articulate. My daughter has the 60's Classic Vibe Squier JM and it's pretty nice. You could put real Fender p/us in one for arounf $100 and still be close the the $500 mark total investment.

This is my P90 Tele build. It does blues just fine. The p90 gets very sweet about 3/4 of the way up the neck. It currently has Wilkinson p/us in it b/c they sound that good. The Wilkinsons put to shame a lot of p/us that cost 2-3 times as much.
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^Awesome info! Any problems with P90 hum? The few players I've talked to who play with P90s always bitch about the hum although, generally, they like the tone.
 
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What kind of reputation do G&L Tribute guitars have? They have a Bluesboy model priced under $700. My experience with a P-90 is a Epiphone Elitist Casino. I love it. Can't envision it being a blues guitar, though.
I've heard good things about G&L. Aren't they the guitars Leo Fender started building once he left Fender? I may have heard wrong.

P90s may not be blues pickups. I tend to have a couple of guitars on stage at least so I could have a dual HB guitar for blues and P90s for other stuff.
 
G&L is indeed the company Leo Fender started after Fender. They are excellent. I have a vintage one and it is amazing. The tribute stuff is great too.

I think a tele is the best all around electric guitar and you can play anything on them, but especially the genres you mentioned. There's been a LOT of great music made on a Tele. If you think the standard bridge pickup is too twangy, dial the tone knob back a little.

Also, hum is not a big deal unless you are recording. Once the drums kick in no one can hear it anyway. :)

My main guitar now for blues, classic rock and American is a PRS Vela. Tele style bride with a bridge humbucker and a single coil neck pickup.
 
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