Good Lord - everyone needs to chill...

[BBUK]

Duke practiced it for less than a week according to the article. And as we as UK fans tell people that accuse us of cheating call the NCAA if u have evidence that Duke broke practice time rules.
Maybe just maybe it is time for some of us to admit that without a Rose, Wall, or Davis Cal is a really good coach and a great recruiter. Not a great Coach. Bo Ryan made him look like a chump last year as well as some of the teams we struggled with last year that we should have pummeled by 30.
Cal's teams often look disinterested, and not ready to play and offensively we have no looked like we have any real strategy for 3+ seasons. And anyone who honestly can't admit these things probably spends a lot of time looking at the cal poster hanging above their bed at night.
We won at UK before Cal and we will win after Cal is gone. I cannot believe he is so immune to any criticism.

I answered you from my phone previously. I could not see your post count. When does post count matter you state? When you now have 15 posts and all of them have been to down or be-little UK. It's coach OR it's players. Sorry no fan would spend the tie you are to prove Duke is the better team and no it's not okay to do to be fair. Bye...

 

[BBUK]

you do know we played some zone earlier in the season and we were horrible at it. Or maybe with all eyes on UK, you want us to cheat and practice 10 x's more than allowed so that we can get freshmen playing Man and zone equally well.

I'll explain it in a way you can understand catfan144........ Tell me what do you do for a living and I'll give you a good comparison for practice time.

I ignored him. Of course you do what you want but he's getting exactly what he wants if you keep bantering with a troll...

 

[Nubb16]

I'm not old enough to remember 92 Duke game. The Wisconsin game will forever be the most disappointing, heart breaking loss that I will never 'be over'.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Since the guy read an article about Duke and remembers it so vividly.... I'm going to guess he's really a Duke fan

 

[BBUK]

Since the guy read an article about Duke and remembers it so vividly.... I'm going to guess he's really a Duke fan

More than one...I don't mind a poster from another site posting here and touting his team. When a poster with a UK name fights hard for another team with his first posts...I consider him a liar.

I don't use the word hate much if ever but I don't associate much with known liars.

 

[ShadowFromHomewardBound]

Since the guy read an article about Duke and remembers it so vividly.... I'm going to guess he's really a Duke fan

Just like S.C.

 

[catfan144]

Sorry, I am a realist that is not going to get on my hands and knees and kiss cal's ass and pretend that he is Phil Jackson. Bo Ryan of all people made Cal look like a rec league coach. Many other coaches did the same last year except they did not have the talent Bo did to pull a upset. That team should have throttled everyone the same way they did to Kansas. They didn't because they lacked preparation and motivation. Go back and look at all the close games we had. We could have lost 5 games. Lose 5 games with the greatest collection of talent ever? Sorry but that is on the coach and his staff having these kids more worried about their draft stock than focusing on opponents. The 2010 team had 4 future NBA studs and couldn't win a title, 2011 we had Knight, & Jones and again could not win, 2012 we had the top 2 picks + Jones+ lamb+teague, it took Cal to have 5+ future NBA players to win a title. It has been nothing but overrated since with 2013 being a embarrassment with dodgeball at practice. 2014 Cal did a incredible job in March with that group, but it took a good draw and a couple miracle shots from Aaron to make that a success. 2015 was the most loaded team from top to bottom ever seen and he couldn't bring it home with that group. Sorry but IMO he can worry less about how many guys get drafted and more about winning titles. Mark my words if next years class comes in and don't get a title and all roll off to the NBA 2017-2018 season will look much like 2013 and this year.

 

[JStaff2187]

2014 Cal did a incredible job in March with that group, but it took a good draw and a couple miracle shots from Aaron to make that a success.

I'm not so sure our draw was that great. We had a pretty tough road. Even if you make the argument that WSU was a good draw, we still had to play UL, Michigan (the previous 2 championship game teams) and Wisconsin to get to the title game.

And as far as 2015 goes, that was just a year of juggernaut teams. Kentucky, Duke, Wisconsin and a very good Arizona team. Any of them could have taken home the title. Kentucky was 3 minutes and 3 shot clock violations away from the title game. Now if there is one thing I wish Cal would do it's use his timeouts when the team is clearly rattled... But outside of that it's hard to complain too much.

 

[Uk1111]

I totally disagree with catfans attitude about Cal, but even Cal himself has said that him not using zones hurt us at times and admitted that he should use it more at times, and admitted that he's stubborn and simply use to playing man to man.
I've heard him say that more than once and he said that they do practice it, and it's workedibthe past, of course not every time.
Saying there's never a situation that calls for a zone is simply niave, even if a team plays better man to man most of the time, times sometimes calls for a zone due to the players on the floors strengths and weaknesses! I for one wish wear least use it enough to throw teams off every once in a while. Why makeiteasier on the opposing HCs by letting them know exactlywhattheyre going to face at every moment when they play us!

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Way to go doubling down on being a troll.

Cal and UK beat Pitino and K this year, I suppose that means they are chumps now? And Cal won against Wisconsin 2 years ago so Bo Ryan is also a chump.

it took K over 30 years at Duke to win 5 titles. And he's considered one of the best ever. Cal has 1 in 6 years at UK and trolls are trying to spin it as a failure????

Being a troll doesn't have to mean being stupid. If you want to laugh we lost to auburn, laugh. We deserve it. But don't be an idiot.

 

[Jkwo]

I think most are still upset about the Wisconsin loss but a bigger question is why this is our second down season in the past four years? It's unrealistic to assume that any team would be a favorite for the FF every year, however, when's the last time Duke, KU, Arizona or any other elite program struggled to get to 20 wins? Some are probably thinking along these lines as well. Unless there's a drastic turnaround in post play we could be in danger of missing the tournament. 20 wins probably gets us in but we can't afford to have anymore bad losses like yesterday.

Uh - Duke has just as many losses as we do. Arizona has one less. KU is up this year, but they've been to one Final Four since Cal as been at UK. Arizona has been to zero.

If you think that we spend more time being "down" than other elite programs, that simply means that you're not paying attention to the national landscape.

We've won more than anybody else, both regular season and post season, in the last 6 years - of course, half the people on here don't pay attention to when other teams are sucking - grass is always greener, etc. Problem is, it's objectively not.

 

[EnglandWildcat]

2014 Cal did a incredible job in March with that group, but it took a good draw and a couple miracle shots from Aaron to make that a success.

This proves that you're either a fan of another team or you are engaging in revisionist history because you have an agenda. Another fan gave you a break on this, but I won't.

Ever kentucky fan remembers the moment that region was revealed and we were in it. It was obvious that it was brutal. Undefeated Wichita State as the one-seed, defending national champs and tenacious Louisville as the four, and the best offense in the country in Michigan as the 2-seed, plus blue-blood Duke and a surging Tennessee team.

That was the region of doom and Cal's tweak was masterful.

Last year was soul-crushing and we should have won. But let's not play the "Cal can't coach game." It makes you look foolish.

 

[Dakota25]

Do people forget us being a top 20 team when Noel got hurt? Take Ulis or Murray from this team and what's their record?

UK was number 25 and would have still lost to UF and UT even with Noel. I mean they were still better than this UK team but they weren't top 20 either.

 

[3rex]

you do know we played some zone earlier in the season and we were horrible at it. Or maybe with all eyes on UK, you want us to cheat and practice 10 x's more than allowed so that we can get freshmen playing Man and zone equally well.

I'll explain it in a way you can understand catfan144........ Tell me what do you do for a living and I'll give you a good comparison for practice time.

you're making this waaaaay too complicated. Most every team has a zone in their arsenal for situations. Crazy not too. Doesn't mean you have to play it equally well. Doesn't mean you have to expand practice time.
these players are some of the best in the world at what they do. They've played travel ball, AAU, high school & more and have certainly been exposed to, and played zone defense along the way.
You're acting like its some foreign concept that would have to be taught from scratch, which is ridiculous.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

Sorry, I am a realist that is not going to get on my hands and knees and kiss cal's ass and pretend that he is Phil Jackson. Bo Ryan of all people made Cal look like a rec league coach. Many other coaches did the same last year except they did not have the talent Bo did to pull a upset. That team should have throttled everyone the same way they did to Kansas. They didn't because they lacked preparation and motivation. Go back and look at all the close games we had. We could have lost 5 games. Lose 5 games with the greatest collection of talent ever? Sorry but that is on the coach and his staff having these kids more worried about their draft stock than focusing on opponents. The 2010 team had 4 future NBA studs and couldn't win a title, 2011 we had Knight, & Jones and again could not win, 2012 we had the top 2 picks + Jones+ lamb+teague, it took Cal to have 5+ future NBA players to win a title. It has been nothing but overrated since with 2013 being a embarrassment with dodgeball at practice. 2014 Cal did a incredible job in March with that group, but it took a good draw and a couple miracle shots from Aaron to make that a success. 2015 was the most loaded team from top to bottom ever seen and he couldn't bring it home with that group. Sorry but IMO he can worry less about how many guys get drafted and more about winning titles. Mark my words if next years class comes in and don't get a title and all roll off to the NBA 2017-2018 season will look much like 2013 and this year.

"Made Cal look like a rec league coach"? How? Wisconsin was one of the best teams in the country last year -- and wanted that win bad after we got them the year before. We had a 4 point lead after being down 9 with a few minutes to play. Was the end sickening? Yes, I'll grant you that.

How have we been "overrated since 2013"? We made it to the title game the next year and the FF the year after! Because of 10 losses in 2014 and not going 40-0 we're "overrated"?

"Good draw"? Are you serious? That was a murder's row of opponents -- and we made the title game! "Miracle shots"? Dude -- do you even watch March Madness? That's 99% of what it's about! Games like last year when we wiped the floor with WVU just don't happen because you're playing the absolute hottest teams in the country at the time. Speaking of MM -- it's not a guarantee you win with the best talent -- look at early 90s UNLV and Michigan's Fab Five for example -- made it to the title game and couldn't get it done. It happens -- and yes, it stings.

 

[catfan144]

Yea Ryan made Cal look bad. He knew we would switch with every screen and continued to set them until they caught Booker gaurding Kaminsky. Did you watch the game? Cal did nothing to stop this mismatch and it cost us a national championship. When Cal opens his mouth and makes quotes like " we are college basketball " and you have the top class coming in every year and players look like they have no clue what to do on offense it us fair to question the coaching is it not? Some of you on this board act like Cal is above all criticism.

 

[brianpoe]

Sorry, I am a realist that is not going to get on my hands and knees and kiss cal's ass and pretend that he is Phil Jackson. Bo Ryan of all people made Cal look like a rec league coach. Many other coaches did the same last year except they did not have the talent Bo did to pull a upset. That team should have throttled everyone the same way they did to Kansas. They didn't because they lacked preparation and motivation. Go back and look at all the close games we had. We could have lost 5 games. Lose 5 games with the greatest collection of talent ever? Sorry but that is on the coach and his staff having these kids more worried about their draft stock than focusing on opponents. The 2010 team had 4 future NBA studs and couldn't win a title, 2011 we had Knight, & Jones and again could not win, 2012 we had the top 2 picks + Jones+ lamb+teague, it took Cal to have 5+ future NBA players to win a title. It has been nothing but overrated since with 2013 being a embarrassment with dodgeball at practice. 2014 Cal did a incredible job in March with that group, but it took a good draw and a couple miracle shots from Aaron to make that a success. 2015 was the most loaded team from top to bottom ever seen and he couldn't bring it home with that group. Sorry but IMO he can worry less about how many guys get drafted and more about winning titles. Mark my words if next years class comes in and don't get a title and all roll off to the NBA 2017-2018 season will look much like 2013 and this year.

Another brilliant Cal sucks poster.

If you are a UK fan who do you want to replace him with?


You will have to forgive me but I'm getting tired of so many posters who created accounts years ago with only a few posts that show up only after losses and after bans were lifted.

 

[catfan144]

Never said to replace him. Just saying he can take some of the heat for making some mistakes. Players get heat on this board, but some act like its a sin to question Cal.

 

[brianpoe]

Never said to replace him. Just saying he can take some of the heat for making some mistakes. Players get heat on this board, but some act like its a sin to question Cal.

Another BS remark from another questionable poster.

Many of us here critique Cal.

I've blamed him for 2010, 2014, and last year.

Would like to see a zone sometimes, if for nothing else to mix it up.

Hate the slow down ball at end of games.


That said we all know who is critiquing and who is trolling.

Don't recall seeing you here during the 38 straight wins last year...

So you can take your your criticism of fellow posters back to the team you have been cheering for.

 

[catfan144]

Wasn't on here last year. Got banned a few years ago for getting into it with people who were bashing Wiggins for choosing Kansas.

 

[brianpoe]

Wasn't on here last year. Got banned a few years ago for getting into it with people who were bashing Wiggins for choosing Kansas.

So you were banned.

You come back after a loss.

Condemn Cal.

Tell us how everyone here is up Cals butt and wrong, but you are right.

Whoever banned you did their job.

My guess is it might happen again.

Maybe you get to 20 posts this time.

 

[UKnCincy]

Did for me. Wasted opportunity. No excuse for losing that game. None.

Wisconsin was a about a missed free throw away from the title game the year before, had two first round picks on the roster, and had spent the previous 12 months dreaming of the chance of getting revenge for having their best team in generations get knocked out of the tournament by a bunch of freshman.

It sucks we lost to Wisconsin, but I fail to see how we have no excuse for losing that game. It was a tough game against one of the only true quality teams last year.

 

[Blueaz]

Did for me. Wasted opportunity. No excuse for losing that game. None.

wow...smh
a sports loss in the semifinals would not only ruin that great season; but also, the next season...
If that is your yardstick, I have a question for you.
How did you ever survive the end of Tubby and BCG? Those three years or so should have ruined the next 30 years.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

Yea Ryan made Cal look bad. He knew we would switch with every screen and continued to set them until they caught Booker gaurding Kaminsky. Did you watch the game? Cal did nothing to stop this mismatch and it cost us a national championship. When Cal opens his mouth and makes quotes like " we are college basketball " and you have the top class coming in every year and players look like they have no clue what to do on offense it us fair to question the coaching is it not? Some of you on this board act like Cal is above all criticism.

Again -- it's a boom or bust system -- high risk/high reward. These kids are coming out of high school where they were the offense -- and then have to learn quickly how to run in a college system. We usually see the growing pains throughout the season -- and Cal has always said he wants to be peaking in March -- not January -- and most times we have -- pretty incredible.

As far as the Wisc. game -- that's the defense we ran all year -- the same that many said was the best college basketball had seen in 20 years and had worked in 38 straight games. You think Cal (and all of his assistants) sat there for 40 minutes and said "Gee, I'm baffled -- I have NO idea how to stop this!"?? Come on. No, it's what they'd done all year -- he wasn't going to implement a completely new system and hope it worked. Then, had we lost people would be roasting him saying they can't believe he ran a new defense they'd not done before in one of the last (and most important games) of the year.

 

[Blueaz]

This proves that you're either a fan of another team or you are engaging in revisionist history because you have an agenda. Another fan gave you a break on this, but I won't.

Last year was soul-crushing and we should have won. But let's not play the "Cal can't coach game." It makes you look foolish.

or cutnets or 3rexchapman

 

[catfan144]

Our defense was bad the last half of conference play last year. Do you not remember this. A sure sign that teams were figuring it out. Against Wisconsin we ran into a team that had enough manpower to take us.

 

[brianpoe]

Our defense was bad the last half of conference play last year. Do you not remember this. A sure sign that teams were figuring it out. Against Wisconsin we ran into a team that had enough manpower to take us.

He is man D coach.

He is OAD coach.

Both come with their own issues.


He is also a HOFer

Continual complaining without naming your replacement doesn't make sense.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

Our defense was bad the last half of conference play last year. Do you not remember this. A sure sign that teams were figuring it out. Against Wisconsin we ran into a team that had enough manpower to take us.

To an extent.. but it still worked. When things got tight against LSU, Georgia and UC.. we buckled down and teams just didn't score. It worked when we were down 9 to Wisconsin.. to get us up 4.. and yes, I know in the end we lost.. but they counted that 3 at the end of the shot clock.. and we just blew it on offense.

 

[catfan144]

Never asked for a replacement. What irks me is how a poster is attacked on this board by the "Cal Pals" when they so much as question his coaching. Cal is a good coach/all world recruiter. This is the view by most everyone that follows college basketball. I find it very upsetting that he continually says that getting kids to the NBA is his top priority. Unless the NBA is paying UK to train its future players Cals top priority should be winning championships. He is not paid 8 million a year to be 2nd or 3rd best.

 

[brianpoe]

Never asked for a replacement. What irks me is how a poster is attacked on this board by the "Cal Pals" when they so much as question his coaching. Cal is a good coach/all world recruiter. This is the view by most everyone that follows college basketball. I find it very upsetting that he continually says that getting kids to the NBA is his top priority. Unless the NBA is paying UK to train its future players Cals top priority should be winning championships. He is not paid 8 million a year to be 2nd or 3rd best.

Now it's starting to come out...

Not only is he not a good coach but you hate the OAD too.

Another dolt who thinks because Cal says something it affected the last 5 minutes of a game in a season he went 38-0 until then.

You need to go back to ban status or join the other pathetics that don't like the recruiting philosophy that brought the FFs and title after the the long drought.

Again if he is not good enough for you, then who should UK get?

And stop saying you don't want a replacement you just want Cal to do things your way.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

Never asked for a replacement. What irks me is how a poster is attacked on this board by the "Cal Pals" when they so much as question his coaching. Cal is a good coach/all world recruiter. This is the view by most everyone that follows college basketball. I find it very upsetting that he continually says that getting kids to the NBA is his top priority. Unless the NBA is paying UK to train its future players Cals top priority should be winning championships. He is not paid 8 million a year to be 2nd or 3rd best.

The NBA stuff is "Cal speak" -- again, his philosophy is recruit the best, and they'll take us where we want to go.. and for the MOST part (yes, there has been disappointment, no doubt) they have. So, these kids want to hear NBA -- and getting them there will hopefully get us to where we want to go.

Cal said this in his speech at his very first BBM -- I am still baffled some don't understand why he does this..

 

[brianpoe]

The NBA stuff is "Cal speak" -- again, his philosophy is recruit the best, and they'll take us where we want to go.. and for the MOST part (yes, there has been disappointment, no doubt) they have. So, these kids want to hear NBA -- and getting them there will hopefully get us to where we want to go.

Cal said this in his speech at his very first BBM -- I am still baffled some don't understand why he does this..

Some don't want to.

A very few are simple minded fans.

The majority are trolls.

 

[UKnCincy]

Never asked for a replacement. What irks me is how a poster is attacked on this board by the "Cal Pals" when they so much as question his coaching. Cal is a good coach/all world recruiter. This is the view by most everyone that follows college basketball. I find it very upsetting that he continually says that getting kids to the NBA is his top priority. Unless the NBA is paying UK to train its future players Cals top priority should be winning championships. He is not paid 8 million a year to be 2nd or 3rd best.

He's also not paid $8 M per year to win championships. Otherwise NCAA titles wouldn't be an additional bonus in his incentive compensation.

Regarding getting kids to the NBA, I'm glad Cal says that's his top priority. Universities primarily exist to develop individuals. It is appropriate that Cal would adopt a similar philosophy.

 

[brianpoe]

He's also not paid $8 M per year to win championships. Otherwise NCAA titles wouldn't be an additional bonus in his incentive compensation.

Regarding getting kids to the NBA, I'm glad Cal says that's his top priority. Universities primarily exist to develop individuals. It is appropriate that Cal would adopt a similar philosophy.

I love it when people act like it is their money Cal gets.

 

[UKnCincy]

Do people forget us being a top 20 team when Noel got hurt? Take Ulis or Murray from this team and what's their record?

UK dropped out of the polls on December 3rd that season, and remained unranked until February 11th when they were ranked 25th. They promptly fell out of the rankings the following week and remained unranked for the rest of the season.

Why do you believe they were a top 20 team at the time of Noel's injury?

Regarding Ulis or Murray, take any key player off of a team and they will have issues. The 2012 team doesn't win a title if Davis would've blown out his knee. What's your point?

 

[Blueaz]

He is man D coach.

Continual complaining without naming your replacement doesn't make sense.

This

 

[jrpross]

It's worth noting that in 2010-11 we started 14-4 and in 13-14 we started 13-4. Made the Final 4 both times. We are still in the hunt, even losing some awful games. We lost awful games those years too.

 

[UKCatsFan10]

Since Cal arrived, our fans don't know how to handle just having a good team one year, as opposed to the great teams we are used to.

 

[3rex]

Another brilliant Cal sucks poster.

You will have to forgive me but I'm getting tired of so many posters who created accounts years ago with only a few posts that show up only after losses and after bans were lifted.

says the guy who created his account when Cal was hired & makes it his mission to call out anyone who dare question Cal, all while expressing his devotion to all things Cal at every turn.

 

[brianpoe]

says the guy who created his account when Cal was hired & makes it his mission to call out anyone who dare question Cal, all while expressing his devotion to all things Cal at every turn.

You really know things...

I was bpoe when this place started been around since the AOL days.

I have seen you get called out a hundred times with Cutnets and now the other banned boy Catfan144.


You wont win with me troll, hide behind your screen name. I dont have to.