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What's up with all of these creepy dudes out there? It's really not that hard to not force yourself on women. How about going on a date and trying to get a pickle tickle the old fashioned way?

And WTF is up with guys still sending dick pics these days? If it didn't work for Brett Favre, it isn't going to work for you.
 
Coaches sound like creepy MFers in that article & esp coach G with the photos & stalking BS

But I don't understand the title 9 connection

I always thought title 9 was just about trying to equalize sports resources & funding between men and women's programs?

Why wouldn't they just be investigated & potentially punished via school and/or state harassment policies-laws?

Title 9 provides some form of unique channel for sexual harassment investigation that wasn't already in place?

Federal bureaucracy to accompany the university and state bureaucracy maybe?
 
I won’t chine in with an opinion on Golden or the allegations, but I will point out that these are entirely different and unrelated accusations. I’m not sure if that actually makes it worse.
It's possible they are related. One of Goldens accusers thought the stalking was something the staff did


The first woman said this misconduct goes beyond Golden. She believes there is a culture of sexual harassment within Florida’s coaching staff that has only grown since his arrival in Gainesville over two years ago, she said.

“I think it is just a sick f*cking joke that they’re all doing, within that organization, all the coaches,” she said. “They probably get off by showing each other the pictures…There’s something f*cking sick going on there.”
 
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Coaches sound like creepy MFers in that article & esp coach G with the photos & stalking BS

But I don't understand the title 9 connection

I always thought title 9 was just about trying to equalize sports resources & funding between men and women's programs?

Why wouldn't they just be investigated & potentially punished via school and/or state harassment policies-laws?

Title 9 provides some form of unique channel for sexual harassment investigation that wasn't already in place?

Federal bureaucracy to accompany the university and state bureaucracy maybe?
Title 9 is the law about sexual discrimination in education. One of the results was leveling athletic opportunities. It also makes the institutions responsible for preventing sexual discrimination. A corporation might be able to keep a rapist as CEO. Turn a blind eye. Make it go away privately. Title IX would force schools to do the right thing by law.
 
Didn’t realize Green was on their staff. He was like their version of Anthony Epps. Tough as nails and always made the right decision. Sounds like he finally made the wrong one, if this woman is to be believed.
I’ll wait till the investigation is included but it’s kinda strange that multiple events have happened now. Plus he never met the woman and that is the first thing he did. Idk maybe he thought his status would win out but seems suspect.
 
What's up with all of these creepy dudes out there? It's really not that hard to not force yourself on women. How about going on a date and trying to get a pickle tickle the old fashioned way?

And WTF is up with guys still sending dick pics these days? If it didn't work for Brett Favre, it isn't going to work for you.
I’ll never understand that.
 
It’s stuff like this that make me really happy Pope is our coach. He’s winning which is awesome, but you can also count on him building the right culture.

This and why I always get cranky when people say they'd rather have winning over everything else. Whelp, this is what happens when you do that. You get sociopaths who don't give two rat's asses about anyone else but them. That's not a culture we want here....ever. Pitino and Cal are about the furthest to the ego-maniacs I ever want to be here.

You want somebody that can win, sure. But you also want someone that's a decent human. And will teach players and staff about how to be decent humans. We don't need more crappy people running about. We got a whole country full of them.
 
I’ll wait till the investigation is included but it’s kinda strange that multiple events have happened now. Plus he never met the woman and that is the first thing he did. Idk maybe he thought his status would win out but seems suspect.

Doesn't even matter. Dude is MARRIED and has a CHILD. He shouldn't even be thinking about doing that crap.
 
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I won’t chine in with an opinion on Golden or the allegations, but I will point out that these are entirely different and unrelated accusations. I’m not sure if that actually makes it worse.

Attitude reflects leadership. Almost always. You do what you are allowed to get away with. If the AC sees his HC is doing it, with no reprisal, and he's into that kind of power move himself, you're crazy to think he won't try it.

It not only makes it worse, it makes Golden's accusations look more accurate.

I can't believe he's not been suspended while they investigate this further. UF is losing a lot of respect from me.
 
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Title 9 is the law about sexual discrimination in education. One of the results was leveling athletic opportunities. It also makes the institutions responsible for preventing sexual discrimination. A corporation might be able to keep a rapist as CEO. Turn a blind eye. Make it go away privately. Title IX would force schools to do the right thing by law.


Ohh

So it wasn't established just for overseeing funding levels between men and women's sports - that makes more sense then

Thanks for the info, TC

Mentioned Tucson in a conversation yesterday by the way - loved it there

Do you still live there??
Know where Madera Canyon is?
We lived down there a while during the Raytheon chapter

Hope you're doing well!

And i Hope Florida implodes:cool: 🥲
 
I have to ask, how hard are the investigators actually working on this Golden case?

It's been a few months now and since this guy was sending dick pics and using instagram to stalk women, I would have to believe a simple search through his social media and phone would take a day.

Why has this sat dormant for so long? Are they waiting so they don't disrupt the season? If so, that's kinda wrong.
 
I have to ask, how hard are the investigators actually working on this Golden case?

It's been a few months now and since this guy was sending dick pics and using instagram to stalk women, I would have to believe a simple search through his social media and phone would take a day.

Why has this sat dormant for so long? Are they waiting so they don't disrupt the season? If so, that's kinda wrong.


I would assume they're being sincere with the investigation - they kind of have to

But - i DO believe this is where the "bureaucracy" part comes in - probably a combination of school & federal officials involved , lawyers on both sides I would assume ... maybe student organizations or NGO's having peripheral roles - the NCAA somewhere in there

This actually sounds pretty onerous though - like a case to be made for systemic issues and a "culture" of abuse -- so I would be surprised if nothing happens

Also would be surprised if there's a final ruling before football season 2025

First i am hearing of it though - maybe a lot of work on the case has already been finished?
 
I would assume they're being sincere with the investigation - they kind of have to

But - i DO believe this is where the "bureaucracy" part comes in - probably a combination of school & federal officials involved , lawyers on both sides I would assume ... maybe student organizations or NGO's having peripheral roles - the NCAA somewhere in there

This actually sounds pretty onerous though - like a case to be made for systemic issues and a "culture" of abuse -- so I would be surprised if nothing happens

Also would be surprised if there's a final ruling before football season 2025

First i am hearing of it though - maybe a lot of work on the case has already been finished?
Well, they should know enough now at this point that if the accusations are true, Golden should be on leave. The pictures and texts are there, or they are not.

When Chris Beard was accused of domestic violence, that happened extremely fast and his wife was actually trying to stymie it.

If I was the accuser in the Todd Golden case, I'd be pretty pissed seeing him just continuing to ciach like nothing happened.
 
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