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I assume you meant 2022; no way the ice extent increased.
The ice extent waxes and wanes. What you look for are anomalies outside the expected norms.

What you need to understand about ice in the arctic is essentially the same principle as ice in your drinking glass. As long as you have at least some ice left in your glass then all of the heat energy goes to melting the ice and your drink stays relatively cool. However, once no more ice is left in your glass then all that heat energy turns to warming your drink very quickly.

In an ice free arctic with all that heat energy 24/7 beating down on dark blue water with no more ice to melt it will heat up so fast the jet stream will shut down as the jet stream is powered by the temperature differential between the pole and the equator, monsoon rains will sweep in over arctic tundra rapidly melting and unleashing torrents of CO2 and methane. There will be global crop failures as the planet adjusts to one arctic pole. Warm water will swarm into the shallow Eastern Siberian Arctic Shelf until it is destabilized enough to begin pulsing massive amounts of methane into the atmosphere.

The ESAS is 770,000 square miles and is the shallowest and largest oceanic shelf on earth. It holds a trillion tons of methane in its shallow depths. Waiting.

Watching the ignorant laughers and hooters in here guffawing away in their blissful ignorance is fine. History has always been that way. Let them go about their day as they are useless anyway. Might as well be plankton floating around lacking even a basic understanding of the world around them. They are of no importance and are merely biological drift wood beholden only the current that steers their pointless wasted stupid lives.

Imagine being the most complex being ever created in the universe but it is wasted on a dog's life spent in ignorance and intellectual squalor. They barely rise above "feed me" in their primal ball scratching. I feel like I am scraping them off my shoes.
 
The ice extent waxes and wanes. What you look for are anomalies outside the expected norms.

What you need to understand about ice in the arctic is essentially the same principle as ice in your drinking glass. As long as you have at least some ice left in your glass then all of the heat energy goes to melting the ice and your drink stays relatively cool. However, once no more ice is left in your glass then all that heat energy turns to warming your drink very quickly.

In an ice free arctic with all that heat energy 24/7 beating down on dark blue water with no more ice to melt it will heat up so fast the jet stream will shut down as the jet stream is powered by the temperature differential between the pole and the equator, monsoon rains will sweep in over arctic tundra rapidly melting and unleashing torrents of CO2 and methane. There will be global crop failures as the planet adjusts to one arctic pole. Warm water will swarm into the shallow Eastern Siberian Arctic Shelf until it is destabilized enough to begin pulsing massive amounts of methane into the atmosphere.

The ESAS is 770,000 square miles and is the shallowest and largest oceanic shelf on earth. It holds a trillion tons of methane in its shallow depths. Waiting.

Watching the ignorant laughers and hooters in here guffawing away in their blissful ignorance is fine. History has always been that way. Let them go about their day as they are useless anyway. Might as well be plankton floating around lacking even a basic understanding of the world around them. They are of no importance and are merely biological drift wood beholden only the current that steers their pointless wasted stupid lives.

Imagine being the most complex being ever created in the universe but it is wasted on a dog's life spent in ignorance and intellectual squalor. They barely rise above "feed me" in their primal ball scratching. I feel like I am scraping them off my shoes.
Now everybody knows why you were banned from the political thread 🍺
 
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Boggles my mind how someone could have lived through the past few years of Covid, all the obvious lies and mistakes (at best) or willful harm the experts caused using Covid as an excuse, and still continue falling for the “experts” and their global warming bullshit.

I guess at least this time it’s slave children in the Congo the “experts” are sacrificing for green profits and not forcing our schools shut to make money (yet).
 
I like Bill's idea. Lets go back to witch doctors when we get sick and just randomly pick one of the passengers to fly our airplane as they can't do any worse than these so called experts. We need to learn to depend on the less informed and the marginally educated to guide us because that seems like such a smart thing for us to do. Education and training are overrated. We can figure things out for ourselves. You're an engineer and you're a doctor and you're a spinal surgeon if you want to be one. We can do this, guys.
 
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February 2023 in Birmingham, Al and we are gonna be in the 68-72 temperature range 4 times in the next 10 days. I’ll enjoy like a mu-phucker, but that chit kra
 
I like Bill's idea. Lets go back to witch doctors when we get sick and just randomly pick one of the passengers to fly our airplane as they can't do any worse than these so called experts. We need to learn to depend on the less informed and the marginally educated to guide us because that seems like such a smart thing for us to do. Education and training are overrated. We can figure things out for ourselves. You're an engineer and you're a doctor and you're a spinal surgeon if you want to be one. We can do this, guys.
Not what he said. I think you know that. If you only knew the irony that one sees when looking at your avatar after reading one of your eloquent educated diatribes!
 
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I like Bill's idea. Lets go back to witch doctors when we get sick and just randomly pick one of the passengers to fly our airplane as they can't do any worse than these so called experts. We need to learn to depend on the less informed and the marginally educated to guide us because that seems like such a smart thing for us to do. Education and training are overrated. We can figure things out for ourselves. You're an engineer and you're a doctor and you're a spinal surgeon if you want to be one. We can do this, guys.
This entire premise relies on the assurance that experts and highly trained people don’t fall victim to herd mentality and pressure from funding sources.

The Covid debacle shows that they do.

You can hurl insults all day. But you cannot overcome the legitimate (and growing) doubts about the scientific establishment. One would think that a “skeptic” would be skeptical. You seem to be an outlier.
 
That's a bit of good news meaning country's efforts to curtail Co2 may be have a slight effect OTOH it just may be taking a pause in the overall trend, here is what the larger picture looks like:


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The amount of CO2 emitted by China alone in that period likely dwarfs any CO2 cuts made in the West.
 
We're living in the age of stupid. The internet has unleashed them upon the world and they link up like cancer cells.

We're also living in the age of consequences. Not a hundred years from now visited upon people after you're long gone. You will get the knock on your door. Everything you know and love, every trace of any sign you ever existed, all gone into eternal nothingness scoured clean on a lifeless rock for all eternity. No gods and no clouds. No rejoining your family in a soft quiet nirvana. Just dead black nothingness scoured clean by open space on a waterless rock. Forever.
Is this what you wrote in the “Christmas haul” thread? How can it be that you preach Armageddon but indulge in the consumerism that will cause it? Make it make sense.

I completely spoiled my wife and son and they returned the favor. My son bought me a PS5 for my golf games and a couple other PS5 games he got me and I got an Official NFL Joe Burrow white/black jersey and a Bengals stocking cap as the highlights of my haul. That white/black jersey looks awesome.
 
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Not looking good, folks:

Antarctica, sea ice extent was 2.23 million km² on February 2, 2023. Later in February this year, extent looks set to go below the 1.924 million km² all-time record low reached on February 25, 2022.

Arctic sea ice extent was 13.676 km² on February 1 , 2023, the second-lowest extent on record for the time of year. As the image indicates, over the next few days Arctic sea ice extent looks set to reach an all-time record low for the time of year.
 
Not looking good, folks:

Antarctica, sea ice extent was 2.23 million km² on February 2, 2023. Later in February this year, extent looks set to go below the 1.924 million km² all-time record low reached on February 25, 2022.

Arctic sea ice extent was 13.676 km² on February 1 , 2023, the second-lowest extent on record for the time of year. As the image indicates, over the next few days Arctic sea ice extent looks set to reach an all-time record low for the time of year.
Omg ! Run for the hills ! 😂😂 I survived polar ice cap melt 2023 🍺 I’ll just wait out doomsday at Obama’s Florida beach home
 
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Gonna be around 75 degrees on this February day in Birmingham, Al. Yo, that’s crazy, but I’m gonna play 18.
 
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Whatever damage we get from AGW will hit us full on. The first wave of "entertainments" that dramatized the issue doomed us, I think, because we won't be drowned in 100 ft tsunamis. We'll be nibbled to death. The biggest physical threat from AGW has always been to agriculture. The farmer plants this summer what was successful last summer. So, increased weather variability makes the farmer more cautious. His choice of plants more narrow. Then, like with chickens this year, a disease wipes that variety out. One or two areas this year. 4 different ones a few years from now. Then, drought. Then, migration. Then, political unrest. Etc. Etc. What kept the benign forms of government we derived from The Enlightenment on top was the ever increasing bounty we got from science and technology. When that fails to deliver the goods, the old sour malice of tyranny is always waiting. It isn't a pretty scenario but everyone can see the trend already. When the economy is flush, optimism has room to prosper. When we're always playing catch-up on huge weather-related disasters? Not so much. When all you can afford is maintenance, you don't build new. So, people pay attention to the loudest voices. The biggest bogeymen. The most enervating fear.
 
Whatever damage we get from AGW will hit us full on. The first wave of "entertainments" that dramatized the issue doomed us, I think, because we won't be drowned in 100 ft tsunamis. We'll be nibbled to death. The biggest physical threat from AGW has always been to agriculture. The farmer plants this summer what was successful last summer. So, increased weather variability makes the farmer more cautious. His choice of plants more narrow. Then, like with chickens this year, a disease wipes that variety out. One or two areas this year. 4 different ones a few years from now. Then, drought. Then, migration. Then, political unrest. Etc. Etc. What kept the benign forms of government we derived from The Enlightenment on top was the ever increasing bounty we got from science and technology. When that fails to deliver the goods, the old sour malice of tyranny is always waiting. It isn't a pretty scenario but everyone can see the trend already. When the economy is flush, optimism has room to prosper. When we're always playing catch-up on huge weather-related disasters? Not so much. When all you can afford is maintenance, you don't build new. So, people pay attention to the loudest voices. The biggest bogeymen. The most enervating fear.
The problem with your point about agriculture is that extreme environmentalist see agriculture as one of the biggest polluters in the world. 30% of agriculture in Norway is going away to save the planet. Norway was the largest food exporter in Europe. Sri Lanka went green and their food prices skyrocketed and people are starving. When food is short this year people will blame the climate and ignore the decisions made by environmentalist.... so the answer will be to do more of the things that led to food shortages... repeat.

Some of you need to come to terms with the fact that many of these environmentalist are antihuman. They don't want a cleaner Earth with 8 billion humans... they just want fewer humans. They will still dig for dangerous metals in 3rd world countries far away from their own eyes but they'll tell themselves that their EV is saving the world. LOL.
 
The problem with your point about agriculture is that extreme environmentalist see agriculture as one of the biggest polluters in the world. 30% of agriculture in Norway is going away to save the planet. Norway was the largest food exporter in Europe. Sri Lanka went green and their food prices skyrocketed and people are starving. When food is short this year people will blame the climate and ignore the decisions made by environmentalist.... so the answer will be to do more of the things that led to food shortages... repeat.

Some of you need to come to terms with the fact that many of these environmentalist are antihuman. They don't want a cleaner Earth with 8 billion humans... they just want fewer humans. They will still dig for dangerous metals in 3rd world countries far away from their own eyes but they'll tell themselves that their EV is saving the world. LOL.

My point was that agriculture has always been the sector our life that would be most effected by AGW.

The areas that will be devastated first by AGW will be the world's already poor regions. Places without food reserves.
 
hmt5000 thinks raising cattle is agriculture so just ignore him. If it rains for 2 minutes at his house he thinks that means there can't be a drought anywhere else on the globe.
 
hmt5000 thinks raising cattle is agriculture so just ignore him. If it rains for 2 minutes at his house he thinks that means there can't be a drought anywhere else on the globe.
Everything you just typed is wrong. The thing with agriculture is that drought happens in one place you can have bumper crops in others to take its place. By intentionally reducing our productive areas to appease environmentalist we are guaranteeing that any little hiccup in production will be 10x worse. I just don't understand how you all want to be in a suicide cult and can't accept that everyone doesn't want to be in it.
 
Because raising cattle is not exclusively agriculture and yet hmt5000 acts like because "environmentalists" correctly point out that cattle are a catastrophic impact on the planet that it means things like raising crops and such are also equally bad. He doesn't say "cattle" he says "agriculture" because he is purposefully trying to run away from this:

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Because raising cattle is not exclusively agriculture and yet hmt5000 acts like because "environmentalists" correctly point out that cattle are a catastrophic impact on the planet that it means things like raising crops and such are also equally bad. He doesn't say "cattle" he says "agriculture" because he is purposefully trying to run away from this:

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Global warming killed the dinosaurs 🍺
 
Last week Lexington touched 74 degrees. That’s the 11th hottest February day in Lexington on record. The Hottest February day in Lexington was in 2018 at 80 degrees.
It was 75 in 1918 and 1932. La Nina was to blame for 2018 right? Wasn't that the driver, not global warming as you like to insinuate?
 
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