Anybody remember Kyle macy he transferred to Kentucky from Purdue
Get to know this guy. He could be our next pg
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Maybe but he showed way more than Perry has, especially as a ball handler with the ability to run a team.
Yeah UT loses a lot of key pieces to their nice 5 year run, Ole Miss loses 8 seniors as does T A@M, Auburn loses a lot of their top guys, I think Florida should return some good core pieces if they don’t go pro. Overall a lot of stalwarts for the good teams will be gone.
Good. I also hope that our conference's elite coaches start to leave for the NBA.
Wasn't Purdue a #1 seed when Smith was a freshman?
It's really hard to put Travis Perry into words or to figure out where he falls as a player.
To me he plays tight and you can tell he has to exert max effort just to compete.
When you compare 2 6ft white dudes to each other, it's hard to explain why one is so much better than the other when measurables seem equal.
You potentially could add KK to that list.
But also, to be realistic we should expect to lose 1-2 to the portal, keeping in mind over 2000 we’re in the portal last year, and even top teams lost guys, guys who played a lot.
Question for everyone. Ignoring names, which PG would you rather have (these are all on a 1-10 scale):
A:
8 in leading a team and distributing ball
7 in 3pt shooting
6 in scoring in multiple ways
5 in defense
B:
6 in leading team and distributing ball
5 in 3pt shooting
7 in scoring in multiple ways
8 in defense
C:
5 in leading team and distributing ball
7 in 3pt shooting
8 in scoring in multiple ways
6 in defense
A:
8 in leading a team and distributing ball
7 in 3pt shooting
6 in scoring in multiple ways
5 in defense
B:
6 in leading team and distributing ball
5 in 3pt shooting
7 in scoring in multiple ways
8 in defense
C:
5 in leading team and distributing ball
7 in 3pt shooting
8 in scoring in multiple ways
6 in defense
It could be both, but NIL is more likely the reason. But like last year Duke lost starters Roach and Mitchell. UT lost the C.
PT and NIL are connected. If you are slotted for 15-20 mpg, you probably getting less than 25-30 mpg guy.
Then there can be other reasons, like Chandler’s fiancée.
If I recall correctly Macy played one year at Purdue. He became an all-American at UK. Smith has already gone to a national title game is from a relatively short distance from West Lafayette and is adored.
I mean it could happen, but I’d be shocked, and in this day and age not much shocks me anymore.
Funny there is so much discussion over what I consider just speculation.
Just my $.02
Those teams have proven in the past they can plug holes in their rosters with high-level portal guys. Every new year is a newly constructed roster now. That's the reality of where we are because most transfers are coming in with limited eligibility. I think we should worry more about Kentucky than what other teams in the league are doing. Our success or lack thereof will be dependent on OUR roster construction. Not Auburn and Tennessee's.
No one said they were worried.
We have to plug our holes better than they plug their's.
We got it done with one part of the equation(HS recruiting) now we have to finish with a top rated portal class.
Roach and Mitchell had market value.
Oweh is the only player we have with true market value.
No one interested in Perry or Noah could afford them or wouldn't afford them.
Yep.
KY, UF, bama will be the cream of the crop in the league next season.
UF loses Clayton, but the portal will be stacked w guards to fill that role. UFs core forwards and bigs are pretty young if I’m not mistaken. They are set for a good 2-3 year run
UT takes a step back and Barnes may retire.
Pearl will throw together a good Auburn team but they lose some key pieces and Johni Broome types aren’t every day portal pickups
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I'd say BG would be the only one of the three that would be considered a top 50 portal player.
All three could go to another school but would they go at a NIL increase?
There's not another school in the country where bench players make more legit NIL.
Garrison may want a different system.
He still would be a high risk player for a school to throw big money at
Everyone develops at a different pace, if Perry can be a Braden Smith in 2 years, we will love it.
Braden also played in a different system and in a conference that isn't as athletic.
I think he would be okay here, but I feel like a pg with more size, length and athleticism would be a better fit and there will be a ton of those guys in the portal.
I want Dent and the Wyoming guard Agbim. Those two have the speed and athleticism to play both offense and defense in the SEC.
I don't like that Agbim's team only won 12 games.
He also wasn't good in their elimination game.
Dent will probably enter the portal and draft at the same time.
You will have to know where you stand with him if you're going to wait it out to see if he withdraws.
Alex Condon, Thomas Haugh will likely return, and UF already has a good base... UF will be good next year as well as long as UF grabs 2 good guards in portal...
I bet one of UK, Bama or UF will be the SEC regular season champion.
We shouldn't be playing on Thursday next SEC tournament.
I'm not buying the story just saying there was some talk that I overheard .
You’ve hit it in my mind, Fox2Monk. Perry is a little bigger than Smith but completely different in the skills they’ve developed over their playing careers. Smith developed as a PG. Perry developed more focused on scoring – getting to spots, constant moving, etc. to get his shot. I think ball handling is both the most prominent difference between Smith and Perry at the PG spot and the number one skill for Perry to develop if he’s going to play PG (which I think he needs to do to play a significant Div. I role).
I believe that Perry needs to hire a person to work with him daily this off-season on ball-handling (I saw a video snippet of Noah working with somebody like this). Perry is dribbling in a straight line as fast as he can to get by his defender, which is what most players and especially non-PGs do (e.g., Oweh). If you’re DeAaron Fox or John Wall this can work alright, but not for most if you want to be really good at the Point. And being able to go behind the back or through the legs is not what I’m talking about. Perry doesn’t need to run faster he needs the ball more so “on a string,” with stop-and-go, change direction on a dime with body fakes and step-backs, play off of two feet and not get sped up (e.g., dribbling in traffic in place for a second or two without fear as a probing device).
While it would be great for us UK fans if it happened, it’s also everything currently wrong with college ball. It would be like Darius Miller transferring after the 2011 season. Makes no sense really.
Purdue isn’t some little sister of the poor. They have a strong and affluent alumni base. If they want to keep him, they can pay him. But if he were to transfer here i’d be all about it. Would probably need to add a defensive minded backup though or get Lewis to buy in that that’s where his playing time will be based on next year.
Wouldn't Wrightsell be able to get a medical redshirt?
You're right. I forgot all about his injury. Torn achilles. Tough injury. Painful just thinking about it.
We need the teams in the SEC to be great as it helps UK seeding. UK just needs to get their roster to that level
Sounds like another wheeler maybe with a better shot. We need guys who can defend mark. Bbn likes points but wins are where it’s at. Gotta be able to win in the 60s or 70s if we have to.
It looks like to me that Perry can go by his man almost every time he touches the ball but he doesn't try because he isn't confident he can get his shot off. He should watch video of Antonio Reeves' junior and senior years. He looked like just a jump shooter and then his last year he unveiled a great floater and a great Euro-step and they made a big improvement in his game. That would make a big difference in Perry's game. Perry also needs to work on some layups he can get off, i.e. reverse layups and high flips off the glass. Those who think Perry can never be a player need to visualize him being stronger and with those elements added to his game; he is not a finished product.
The floater is essential for an undersized/underatetic guard. Finishing at the rim is resulting in a swat 9/10 times. Beat the first guy, change of pace to get him on your hip/back, and float that thing up from 4-10ft
Not me, I want the SEC to be the dominant conference every year and I want UK to win it every year.
Yep you guys loved wheeler until about half way through his first season. Most of you thought he was the best transfer we pulled. Then the defense. If this guy can’t defend it’s going to be difficult. I haven’t seen him play I just read that article and I got a wheeler feel from it. But I remember you loved wheeler even when his short comings were evident
