Gabriel SF or PF
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Hopefully the 4. I want a lineup of Fox, Monk, Willis, Gabriel, and Bam, because honestly, I HATE jumbo lineups with 2 big guys who are really centers, and a 3 who's really a 4. All that size has advantages, especially on D, but it also has major disadvantages, mainly that you often get a clogged toilet halfcourt offense.
No clogged toilets, please, and no lineups with forwards who no one has to defend more than 12 feet from the basket. Gabriel blocks shots and is a great rebounder, so take advantage of it. If he proves that he can hit jump shots, great, more power to him, but he shouldn't be a perimeter guy playing next to 2 bigs.
No clogged toilets, please, and no lineups with forwards who no one has to defend more than 12 feet from the basket. Gabriel blocks shots and is a great rebounder, so take advantage of it. If he proves that he can hit jump shots, great, more power to him, but he shouldn't be a perimeter guy playing next to 2 bigs.
Cal likes long, athletic forwards at the 3 spot. Gabriel is exactly what he wants in that spot. I think he likely starts at the 3 with Fox at the 1, Monk at the 2, Bam at the 4, and SKJ (or Bolden if we get him) at the 5.
They will switch everything with big, athletic guards and quick, athletic forwards. That's how Cal likes to do things.
They will switch everything with big, athletic guards and quick, athletic forwards. That's how Cal likes to do things.
yep, fans get caught up in wanting big lineups but CBB is about spacing and penetration. Gabriel, Willis, and Bam will quite likely be the front line. If Bolden comes I don't see him starting. Gabriel will play some 5 when we play 3 guards.
Willis is the 4 in that scenario, though it won't really matter much since they are both going to be on the wing. Willis will match up with 4's defensively. Of course, Cal likes to switch so that doesn't matter much either.
SF all the way . He is true SF that happens to be 6'10 . People have complained that we don't get SFs but next year we will have 3 - Gabriel and Willis who are NBA type 3's and Matthews who is college type 3.
Count me as one who would like the bigger lineup with Bolden.
Bam would make a much larger impact with another big down low, otherwise he will have the C and PF to deal with on rebounds.
"Type of game" - I could see that, but with Cane you never know....
Not so sure Willis would ever see the floor as a 3, or a 4 for that matter. Glad he is playing well for us though.
A lot depends on if Ulis comes back. If Ulis does come back we'll start a 3 guard lineup again. Then if we get Bolden, Gabriel will probably be coming off the bench. He or Willis one would be playing a lot of SF with the other playing a lot of 4. If Ulis leaves its pretty simple. but I think he comes back. If no Ulis We start...
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
Bolden
To answer the question though. SF. I think if he and Willis are coming off the bench Willis plays mostly 4, while Gabriel plays mostly 3. But I think Gabriel will play PF from time to time.
Fox
Monk
Gabriel
Bam
Bolden
To answer the question though. SF. I think if he and Willis are coming off the bench Willis plays mostly 4, while Gabriel plays mostly 3. But I think Gabriel will play PF from time to time.
I didn't say Willis would play in the NBA did I? NO I said he is in the mold of NBA 3. IE he is 6'9 , can shoot and has hops. Matthews on the other hand is in the mold of a college SF although I think Matthews will for sure make the pros one day as a SG. With all that being said I do think Willis has a much better shot at the league then say Kyle Wiltjer .
He is not a SF. People have to stop assuming bigs who show range w/ some ATHL can become a optimal SF.
It takes more than that, like actual range from deep, lateral quicks & knowledge of spacing to avoid lurking around the baseline like most bigs do. Trey Lyles is an example people use as a PF used out of position, but it he murdered the spacing. Gab will have the same bad effect.
Use him as a strech PF & maximize his value there.
It takes more than that, like actual range from deep, lateral quicks & knowledge of spacing to avoid lurking around the baseline like most bigs do. Trey Lyles is an example people use as a PF used out of position, but it he murdered the spacing. Gab will have the same bad effect.
Use him as a strech PF & maximize his value there.
I am not surprised that you are sure that just about every UK player will be in the pros someday...Charles has a long ways to go to be on any list.
Assuming either of Wiltjer or Willis make it, I see both as 4 men.
Just because Willis is more athletic doesnt mean he is a better fit in the league, you know how much they value shooting and as good as Willis has been, Kyle is still so much better.
As to Derek playing the 3 in the NBA..
Willis has struggled guarding college guys at the 4, much less the 3.
Tell me which of these small forwards will Derek contain and which of these cannot absolutely shut Derek down?
30. P.J. Hairston, Charlotte Hornets
29. Wesley Johnson, Los Angeles Clippers
28. Stanley Johnson, Detroit Pistons
27. C.J. Miles, Indiana Pacers
26. Matt Barnes, Memphis Grizzlies
25. Robert Covington, Philadelphia 76ers
24. Jae Crowder, Boston Celtics
23. Al-Farouq Aminu, Portland Trail Blazers
22. Quincy Pondexter, New Orleans Pelicans
21. Otto Porter, Washington Wizards
20. P.J. Tucker, Phoenix Suns
19. Trevor Ariza, Houston Rockets
18. Harrison Barnes, Golden State Warriors
17. Joe Johnson, Brooklyn Nets
16. Danilo Gallinari, Denver Nuggets
15. Tobias Harris, Orlando Magic
14. Luol Deng, Miami Heat
13. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers
12. Rudy Gay, Sacramento Kings
11. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
10. Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves
9. Chandler Parsons, Dallas Mavericks
8. DeMarre Carroll, Toronto Raptors
7. Kyle Korver, Atlanta Hawks
6. Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
5. Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz
4. Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls
3. Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio Spurs
2. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
1. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
(Not my rankings btw)
Sorry but cal is going to play him at sf because that's what he is. He will also play the 4 at times.
It really doesn't matter to me.
Each has it's own benefit. Offensively, it might cause opponent to pack it in, but defensively we would be nightmare with him at the 3.
It all depends on how much shooting ability you get from guys like Fox/Monk.
It's hard to know until you have them playing at collegiate level.
Each has it's own benefit. Offensively, it might cause opponent to pack it in, but defensively we would be nightmare with him at the 3.
It all depends on how much shooting ability you get from guys like Fox/Monk.
It's hard to know until you have them playing at collegiate level.
Lmfao no, he's not. At all.
But i fully expect Cal to play him at SF because he cares little about spacing.
That's where his high school coach is playing him this year actually. That's the reason his stock has jumped recently, because he's shown that he fits in as a wing. Not saying he's a prototypical SF but honestly I think he'll fit there a lot better than Lyles did.
Ideally, I'd love UK to go all-in on Alkins and retain Lee as Bam's backup at the 5 (with Gabriel at the 4) but I also agree that Gabriel is exponentially more athletic than Lyles and will fair remarkably better.
Also, I think Cal prefers a long lineup because of defensive potential. Gabriel will defend his man, regardless of where he's positioned at forward. If it doesn't work out for whatever reason, Cal has guys like Willis and Mulder to turn to off the bench.
Its HS. He's a freak compared to those kids. he can run the point & still dominate.
I love his tools...as a PF at the college level. He wont be maximized playing SF.
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