Free Throw Attempts per Field Goal Attempt
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Oh, he has been sure to remind me of his prowess on the court. Good for him, we all have memories of our glory years. I meant to convey the notion that we did not lose this game due to bad calls. We were just outplayed down the stretch.
So start getting smart with me for making a fair point? Good on you
Dude if you want to do nothing but name call, have at it. Al Bundy? That’s the best you’ve got. What a 🤡.
I think some of this definitely is based on the teams in the conference.
Right now we are dead average at getting to the line (FTA/FGA). We are dead average at fouling on defense and putting our opponents on the line.
But then you look at the teams in this conference and it's just non stop.
You look at the last two teams we've lost to in conference. Both Alabama and Georgia ranked in the top 25 in getting to the line. Sure enough those strengths played out against us and was a big reason we lost both of those games.
Sometimes opponents just do things well and it's not a surprise they continue to do those things well.
You continue to act like a woman saying "you don't get it" and then not actually saying what IT is.
You tried to play the "well they're just aggressive, they deserve the fouls " and I flipped that shit real fast by explaining Cal had the aggressive and faster and stronger teams for years, and we still had to deal with fouls.
So I'll ask again, what do we have to do to not end every game with more fouls and less free throws? Because as far as I can tell we've covered the entire spectrum of game styles, player levels and coaches.
Too be fair to Butler and Oweh, they really can’t because the opponents bigs can help close out without any concern of UK’s “bigs” hurting them. UK’s “bigs” pass up more 3 foot shots than any team I have seen. There is no threat for lobs because of how amazingly unathletic Carr and Williams are. 90%+ of UK’s issues center around how soft UK’s bigs are.
If Carr is hurt, Pope should not have played him. Carr was flat out abused by the white kid from North Dakota. Williams effort level drops significantly if things don’t work out for him. Take a look at the segment at just before the 3 minute mark where Williams doesn’t elevate on the lob, turnover and his complete lack of effort getting down the court. His lack of effort led directly to Bama getting a rebound on a missed 3 and then Williams half assed the closeout. Bama 3, game over.
Didn’t co-sign anyone’s exhaustive post history. Just acknowledged he could be right about this
I just want consistenct. I won't deny that Alabama was stronger at attacking today.. but when we've been the aggressor over the years, the officials tamp down on us and make us often play the game the opponent wants. Not to mention the home and away issues with officiating.
Wow, only thing i said was i thought today they had the twbest players on the court.
But you know we say this and it's not as if this hasn't been flipped around. There was times under Cal where we made more free throws than our opponents even attempted.
And that was with Cal.......who by all accounts.....the refs hate.
Doubt we dip much. Overall we played pretty well.
For sure. I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
But part of those games we got the calls was 1. We were at home, where some teams at home NEVER seem to have it go against them and 2. We did have NBA level talent that opposing teams could not contain.
Al bundy was cool man. Lol.
Here’s the bottom line, you were an asshole. I like to talk shit so I acted accordingly. You seem to have super thin skin. Get over it. I’m not trolling you and if you think being compared to Al bundy is me calling you names then you just reinforced the thin skin thing.
The hypocrsiy is so deep. Since we are talking about "posting historys," you'll see that the OP goes after everyone in a thread he makes that doesnt tell him how great he is. He does it every.single.time. It's often insults. In other words......
I think you're both sort of saying similar things. Or at least you're both right. We do need to play more aggressive and we do need to up the talent in order to do so. But, based on how we know SEC road games go, id argue that Bama really shouldnt have been allowed to play that way. If we go by what we've seen, they should have been the ones in foul trouble while Kentucky controls the game THEIR way.
That's my issue. Consistency.
That's my issue. Consistency.
I apologized to you multiple times and you’re still mad. Don’t get it. I don’t live to be mad. If you do, do you. I can’t turn water to wine and I ain’t perfect —- never claimed to be. I don’t see that as soft. I see that as me trying to be a better person and I’ll tell you it’s hard every day with my flawsThe hypocrsiy is so deep. Since we are talking about "posting historys," you'll see that the OP goes after everyone in a thread he makes that doesnt tell him how great he is. He does it every.single.time. It's often insults. In other words......
They did have the two best offensive players on the floor - interestingly, small school transfers. But UK has a group of good players too. With a healthy Carr I think I might still take UK on a neutral floor.
We also had a season under Cal where we had the worst home/road free throw differential in the country and our home free throw rate wasn’t outrageously high. I think that might have been 2020. Our games are called different and have been for a long time. Lots of attention on our games. Lots of money on the line in our games. Lot of UK fans place bets with their heart.
I think Steven’s? was one of the officials today. I’m not certain but it seems like recently hes been one the ones that we’ve had some issues with.
Plus the misses. Front end misses in the first half and 1 of 2 trips hurts. Wasn't as bad today like 2 of our last 3 games with 3 different guys going 0-2 in a trip, but it still adds up when it's close.
These threads crack me up. It's like a religion. One side just has to be right that the team just messed up and lost. The other says the refs interfered and caused the loss. The truth is it can be both.
The cats didn't all show up again today. They made some bonehead plays; like Robinson jacking up a 30 foot three that killed out momentum. Don't do that and we continue to build momentum and the lead. Throwing the ball away down the stretch. Brea can't hit the ocean. Perry is a liability. Williams had good numbers but his impact was negative. So on.
The refs yet again called a biased game. They made Porn Stash look like a superstar. They let Bama ride our backs, chicken wing, and walk all over the damned floor. How many times did Butler slam into the floor today with no calls. Our player falls down on the shot no foul, but Bama trips over their own feet and gets a foul every time. It. Is. Biased. Those who can't see that aren't the basketball aficionados they think they are.
Take away either of the above problems and we win easily.
The cats didn't all show up again today. They made some bonehead plays; like Robinson jacking up a 30 foot three that killed out momentum. Don't do that and we continue to build momentum and the lead. Throwing the ball away down the stretch. Brea can't hit the ocean. Perry is a liability. Williams had good numbers but his impact was negative. So on.
The refs yet again called a biased game. They made Porn Stash look like a superstar. They let Bama ride our backs, chicken wing, and walk all over the damned floor. How many times did Butler slam into the floor today with no calls. Our player falls down on the shot no foul, but Bama trips over their own feet and gets a foul every time. It. Is. Biased. Those who can't see that aren't the basketball aficionados they think they are.
Take away either of the above problems and we win easily.
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We don’t get our moneys worth on fouls. We’re not aggressive on defense at all. Most of the fouls we do pick up are extremely cheap. If we’re really fouling that much we need to be forcing more turnovers as well.
We need to start going after the ball more.
We need to start going after the ball more.
You are ignoring the fact that 12 of Bama’s FTs were at the end of the game when we were intentionally fouling.
Stop with the officiating nonsense.
Yeah I was just about to say that.
For the most part of Cal's era here (up till like 2021) a ton of green on the Kenpom team page on offensive FTR.
After 21..........it became red most seasons.
Tho back to the point above............post 21 we had a lot more talented players than towards the end of Cal's era here. So that played a role as well.
This is why I know people like to look at FT difference and attribute that to the refs but honestly some teams just do a better job than others at 1) getting to the line and 2) not fouling on defense.
This isn't to say there's not some specific refs that could be bias. I just think drawing fouls and not fouling are skills as well and shouldn't be ignored.
Butler, OWEH Carr and Williams all had a play going to the rim I thought they were clear fouled with no call.
I never saw us get away with contact where someone went to the rim. Not once.
Yeah, I rarely think the refs are the sole cause of a loss.
In a perfect world, the refs are completely neutral. They get some calls right, they get some wrong. It washes.
But it’s asinine to play a 1-2 possession game and pretend that the refs couldn’t have been a factor.
Yes, in many cases a few other things could have been done better to overcome the refs. That was as true today as it is any other time.
But all of the refs don’t matter! Toughen up! crowd - they might want to have a chat with Nate Oats, Coach K, Rick Pitino, and on and on.
For people who don’t impact the game, they sure get yelled at a lot by some of the best coaches.
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