For those saying NIl and transfer portal was ruining college basketball 🤣
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College basketball doing better than ever!!!
I don't think anyone was complaining about NIL and the transfer portal ruining the watchability of the sport but rather the integrity and psuedo-amatuerism of it. People watch the hell out of pro sports, so people tuning in was never in question.
I've seen several people on here the last 12 months say they are done with college sports, NIL has ruined it, they are not watching anymore, this new era is the death of college athletics, etc......
The thing is, the psuedo-amateurism has been a charade for at least the last 30 years, if not longer.
Schools were still buying players via boosters, AAU programs and shoe companies. It was just done under the table instead of out in the open like it is now.
No, posters most definitely complained about NIL and the transfer portal ruining the sport. From "I'll never give a cent to one of these kids!" after a loss to "Everything is so chaotic now! This is stupid! How am I supposed to keep up with all these roster changes and transfers!"
Guess they didn't realize they're fans and don't have to keep up with the transfer portal. That's a coach's job.
The two most used phrases on this site seems to be "shoved down our throats", as in something they don't like constantly being in their face and "(something) is ruining (this or that)", as in they don't like something therefore whatever that is is now 'ruined.'
I personally think it just needs a few more years to level out. There does need to be some sort of integrity brought into the mix. Maybe through a contract.
Like if you sign to play at UK you sign for a minimum of 2 seasons with the exception of leaving for the draft. It could also be argued that if the team and coaches are good enough then the players will stay. But that's not always true. Some of these kids are solely in it for the money. While that's fine I'm not gonna knock these kids for getting paid. It does hurt schools that might spend more than they should to get a player they expect to build a team around. Only for them to run for more money the second they can.
Not all players need these contracts but it would help to retain pieces and build some sort of integrity. It is honestly like the wild west of college sports.
Seems like people have been saying every sport (pro or college) is dying, yet record numbers all around for them.
Exactly. I would add that it has hurt mid-majors especially. Plus, money now influences where someone may go that before was less likely. Pope preaches (ha that's funny) about the Kentucky legacy but if FedEx is going to pay someone millions to come to the lousy Memphis program it will be hard for that prospect who might love Kentucky to still make that selection.
It's clear you completely misunderstood the context of the disdain with the impact of NIL and transfer portal to the game. It's not anything to do with popularity of the NCAAT or ratings - it's about continuity and dedication to a school and a coach rather than money and greener grass on the other side.
I’ve faded on it. Still watching but not as invested. Love this UK team. However the mercenary approach is ruining it for me. This is a good group. They do care.
Look for ul and byu etc to make a big jump as they don’t care. It’s just a money thing.
Look for ul and byu etc to make a big jump as they don’t care. It’s just a money thing.
I don't have a problem with players profiting on Name, Image and/or Likeness, but what it's morphed into is guaranteed moolah, just like those NFL contracts for guaranteed money.
A player demanding $5 mil before he joins our team? Geez.
You don't have to be an economist to know who's gonna pay for these costs, eventually.
A player demanding $5 mil before he joins our team? Geez.
You don't have to be an economist to know who's gonna pay for these costs, eventually.
Just hurting mid majors...FAU who made the final four in 23, their 3 top scorers on that team are each playing for a s16 team...arky, Florida, and Michigan
Just a thought … the ease, accessibility and popularity of gambling has a lot to do with viewership. Here is but one example of many articles on the impact of sports wagering. Gambling seems to have offset the impact of those seeing collegiate sports losing its amateur appeal. Older, more old-fashioned, folks are probably the biggest group gradually losing interest.
How Sports Betting Is Improving Engagement With Televised Games
New VIP+ Analysis: How placing a bet on a sports game can increase viewership and fandom and what this means for media companies and sportsbooks
variety.com
Negative impacts of the large increase in sports gambling were inevitable:
Study: 'Angry bettors' drive NCAA athlete abuse
Abuse by "angry sports bettors" is one of the most common types of harassment college athletes receive, according to a new analysis conducted on behalf of the NCAA.
www.espn.com
1 in 3 high-profile athletes threatened by bettors
The NCAA reports that nearly one in three star athletes receive abusive messages from people with "betting interests," with some college basketball players getting death threats during championship tournaments.
www.espn.com
Study: 'Angry bettors' behind growing abuse of NCAA athletes
abcnews.go.com
Study: One-Third of High-Profile NCAA Athletes Threatened By Gamblers
A high-tech review of social media treatment of college athletes found grim trends.
www.si.com
As Sports Betting Proliferates, Incidence Of Gambling Disorder Rises
As gambling on sports proliferates across America, there are record-breaking profits for the betting companies but also rising numbers of people with a gambling disorder.
www.forbes.com
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I definitely believe changes are needed. If they can restrict guys leaving yearly that would be a start. Imagine the ratings if teams actually got built and we got to see the same guys 3 years in a row again if they don’t go pro. Some great rivalry’s again where a team needs revenge for a tough tourney loss and they meet up again or something the next year.
If you had NIL with the old transfer 1 time and sit out a year rule, it would not be nearly as bad. The issue is the free agency portion which those rules would massively knock down the number of. The issue is and always has been that the NCAA does not follow their mission statement and are more worried about $ than college athletics.
“Our mission, or core purpose, is to regulate intercollegiate athletics in a manner that enhances the role of US higher education as a critical national enterprise in a competitive global environment; ensuring that competition is fair, safe, sportsmanlike, and an enrichment of the academic experience for student-athletes and campus communities. In this regard, we honor the unique American linkage of intercollegiate athletics and academics, and the responsibility to ensure that it contributes to the national mission of higher education. We further honor the collegiate model of athletics; a model in which students participate as an avocation, and where the educational experience of the student-athlete is paramount."
That is the mission statement of the NCAA for anyone curious. Can anyone point me to anything the NCAA has done to help the education of these students? They have been the very body to issue this system in which players switch schools every single year which is certainly not optimal for learning.
“Our mission, or core purpose, is to regulate intercollegiate athletics in a manner that enhances the role of US higher education as a critical national enterprise in a competitive global environment; ensuring that competition is fair, safe, sportsmanlike, and an enrichment of the academic experience for student-athletes and campus communities. In this regard, we honor the unique American linkage of intercollegiate athletics and academics, and the responsibility to ensure that it contributes to the national mission of higher education. We further honor the collegiate model of athletics; a model in which students participate as an avocation, and where the educational experience of the student-athlete is paramount."
That is the mission statement of the NCAA for anyone curious. Can anyone point me to anything the NCAA has done to help the education of these students? They have been the very body to issue this system in which players switch schools every single year which is certainly not optimal for learning.
Kentucky having the highest rated game for tv followers. I guess that still makes us America's team
I still watch, but I am not as emotionally invested.
I will never give a cent of my money to pay college players. That’s not my job.
The officiating is trash and almost assuredly agenda driven to make more money.
I don’t care what the ratings say. Most people in my family are not as invested in college sports anymore. It would not take much from this point to disengage them completely.
College basketball has not been ruined by NIL or the portal....
"... ensuring that competition is fair, safe, sportsmanlike ..."
Reason #1 why college basketball needs to regulate the officiating more than ever.
Because it sure as hell isn't fair, absolutely not safe, and sportsmanlike is the last word I would use to describe leaving these venues (as a Kentucky fan or player)
They've been needing to clean up officiating for decades, and I am afraid they never will. I don't mean nor intend to hijack this thread about officiating, but officiating is the first area they need to address to help the sport. Has been for a long time. I'm just sayin'.
"... ensuring that competition is fair, safe, sportsmanlike ..."
Reason #1 why college basketball needs to regulate the officiating more than ever.
Because it sure as hell isn't fair, absolutely not safe, and sportsmanlike is the last word I would use to describe leaving these venues (as a Kentucky fan or player)
They've been needing to clean up officiating for decades, and I am afraid they never will. I don't mean nor intend to hijack this thread about officiating, but officiating is the first area they need to address to help the sport. Has been for a long time. I'm just sayin'.
I don’t mind NIL, and I don’t mind the transfer portal. However, the combination in its current form is too toxic. I think if we have NIL, you should only be allowed to transfer once and continue to receive NIL. If you transfer a second time, I think you should be automatically ineligible to receive NIL benefits after that.
The argument in favor of NIL is usually professional athletes who get paid for their services. Of course, college players should too. However, the difference is that the pro players are signing multi-year contracts whereas college NIL is encouraging a year to year mercenary system that prevents even a modicum of continuity. Imagine if every NBA player was signing 1 year contract every season lol
The argument in favor of NIL is usually professional athletes who get paid for their services. Of course, college players should too. However, the difference is that the pro players are signing multi-year contracts whereas college NIL is encouraging a year to year mercenary system that prevents even a modicum of continuity. Imagine if every NBA player was signing 1 year contract every season lol
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Why can’t the SEC do like the ACC??
Duke is pampered like Gods. They get the best whistle and are given 7:00 games. Everything is done to help them.
The SEC wants everyone to be good and gives UK the worst officiating and worse game times. They don’t want a blue blood.
Sucks.
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