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For the Matt Jones Haters (and I have been one) Field of 68

I didn't listen to the whole thing, but the Chicken Little reading was awesome.

That dude hooped and hooped hard, but man...you wouldn't want him on your quiz bowl team. Ben wasn't a ton smarter, but was an infinitely bigger turd. I've got a couple NSFRR stories of him from his HS days that are dandies. Whole family is just a little off.
 
I didn't listen to the whole thing, but the Chicken Little reading was awesome.

That dude hooped and hooped hard, but man...you wouldn't want him on your quiz bowl team. Ben wasn't a ton smarter, but was an infinitely bigger turd. I've got a couple NSFRR stories of him from his HS days that are dandies. Whole family is just a little off.
Can you please give us the PG-13 version?
 
Started out by saying “we pushed out Cal.” Wish Matt would’ve told him how it went down with Cal meeting with Arkansas. Also instead of giving Cal so much credit for his season at Arkansas I wish he’d have said something about how it should’ve been easier for Cal since he took his entire KY team, recruits, and picked up a few good portal players and retained Brazile. I think Cal really underachieved this season and if not for injuries would’ve never figured out the winning formula.
We did push out Cal and I’m damn proud of it.

He met with Arkansas because he couldn’t take the heat anymore and knew he needed to get out.
 
We did push out Cal and I’m damn proud of it.

He met with Arkansas because he couldn’t take the heat anymore and knew he needed to get out.
I get what you’re saying because I’m a believer that the fanbase has power! But I also believe that Cal thought he could use Arkansas as leverage against Mitch and it backfired.
 
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Damn I doubled him up!! How did he get into UNC with that score? Oh wait…did I really just ask that?
I think it was his third try...this is all the fuzzy memory (mine) from dating a girl in college that was a really good family friend of theirs...but on the third try I think he got an 18. He legit went through a ton of prep courses. It was a whole mess.

Fun fact. I had a letter from Tubby to him about recruitment or something. He had given it to the girl I was dating and she gave it to me. It was pretty cool at the time. She knew I was a big UK fan, obviously, and thought I'd like it. I honestly have no clue where that letter is now. Probably in a box somewhere.
 
That's not exactly accurate. Matt has said you don't hire someone simply because they played at the school. Hubert Davis is a perfect example. UNC hired him and he had 0 coaching experience. Initially, I didn't think Pope had enough experience but he had some and also had had some success so Barnhart didn't hire him simply because he played here. Looking back now, I think it is safe to say that Barnhart made a really good hire even if there were doubts at the start.
Pope definitely had some attributes that would lead one to believe he could succeed, namely his offenses have been among the most efficient at any level of basketball (including the NBA) since his Utah Valley State days. Honestly, he was at the forefront of the Zoom craze that is all over the NBA now. But there were also some major concerns too, not the least of which is that he's never won a conference regular season or tourney title and that he'd never won an NCAAT game. Matt's assertion was, and honestly I still think it holds true, that Coach Pope would've never gotten the job had he not played at UK. And that's completely fair, and probably completely accurate as well.

I'm not ready to say Mitch made a "really good hire" just yet. I can't base that on two NCAAT wins. Lets face it, the regular season result was just "meh". Had some great wins. Had some "meh" losses. Got our ass handed to us a number of times. Also had a lot of injuries. But all of that said, I think we can all agree it has been refreshing and fun again while also trending in the right direction. I just hope Mitch isn't in charge of any contract renegotiations. That's typically where he really effs up.
 
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Started out by saying “we pushed out Cal.” Wish Matt would’ve told him how it went down with Cal meeting with Arkansas. Also instead of giving Cal so much credit for his season at Arkansas I wish he’d have said something about how it should’ve been easier for Cal since he took his entire KY team, recruits, and picked up a few good portal players and retained Brazile. I think Cal really underachieved this season and if not for injuries would’ve never figured out the winning formula.
We absolutely did push Cal out and if he ever comes back we'll push him out again.
 
Pope definitely had some attributes that would lead one to believe he could succeed, namely his offenses have been among the most efficient at any level of basketball (including the NBA) since his Utah Valley State days. Honestly, he was at the forefront of the Zoom craze that is all over the NBA now. But there were also some major concerns too, not the least of which is that he's never won a conference regular season or tourney title and that he'd never won an NCAAT game. Matt's assertion was, and honestly I still think it holds true, that Coach Pope would've never gotten the job had he not played at UK. And that's completely fair, and probably completely accurate as well.

I'm not ready to say Mitch made a "really good hire" just yet. I can't base that on two NCAAT wins. Lets face it, the regular season result was just "meh". Had some great wins. Had some "meh" losses. Got our ass handed to us a number of times. Also had a lot of injuries. But all of that said, I think we can all agree it has been refreshing and fun again while also trending in the right direction. I just hope Mitch isn't in charge of any contract renegotiations. That's typically where he really effs up.
I really enjoy reading your thoughts, Eagles .... I concur on your salient points. Although I have been openly very vocal and positive in my support for Coach Pope, I just look at everything that happened this year in the context of a 50 year memory window for me. Except one thing :

Coach Pope IS a GREAT hire for us already.

Not a good hire. Not a very good hire. Legitimately great, and will be viewed as being so, in the future, although I would even agree saying he was "a really good hire" right now can be legitimately withheld, depending on how you look at everything and define good/very good/great/home run definition.

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It's easy to sit back and say that Cal was a home run hire to begin with for Kentucky at the time. We had "The Door" thread for lords' sakes. Told you everything you need to know. Same with Pitino as a home run hire.

But this year was a far more significant and challenging thing to pickup as opposed to when Pitino left. with what Tubby had leftover compared to the condition Cal left when he did? Geez, Louise. We've all got our questions about Mitch, but he did us right in this hire, luck or not. So he got a GOOD rating if the season ends against the Vols in the sweet sixteen. Fair enough.

At worst - Coach Pope's job would have to be seen as a "Good Hire." Unanimous approval would have to be required, and I think we can all agree on THAT around here... .for this year? Sure.

But not even a "very good" yet? OK. Fair enough.

I'm just sitting here watching all this talk continue, safe and absolutely secure in knowing my faith and trust are well founded with Coach Mark Pope. I've been out front in being positive and hanging tough with all the adversity the year brought ON TOP OF what we were facing ...

and then you throw the fact that the SEC had the single greatest season EVER in the 100 years of basketball in the NCAA this YEAR ... and that's what we would be up against ? He more than held his own.

Beat Scheyer, Few, Kelsey, Golden, Barnes twice, Buzz. I'll bet they would all say Pope holds his own.

Not only is he as bright and cunning as any coach out there in the game today, he's got a vision and we're seeing it unfold.

Making the sweet sixteen this year, in the face of everything that happened, and all the "adversity" is a vindication of his ability more than a reason to question if he was a very good hire or not. At least 3 or 4 times this year the headlines were : "Coach pope and Kentucky faces adversity" ... the next headline the following day was : "Coach Pope and Kentucky successfully navigate adversity" .... how he kept the ship from sinking with the injuries was again, even MORE of a masterful coaching job, not good, not very good - but GREAT.

I said all along getting players like Chandler, Noah and Perry to so quickly be thrust into hardcore minutes and having success with them as a team was that much MORE of an indication as to his coaching prowess. I only think someone like Coach Pitino or a Coach Izzo might've been able to so successfully navigate the kind of eyar Coach pope has had to here at Kentucky, and get at least his results so far.

Absolutely he is a very good hire. The ultimate question is, will it be GREAT (A Home Run) hire.

I already say he is a great hire for Kentucky.

I'll stand right beside him every single day. He has a great personality and is well respected amongst his peers and is very intelligent. A truly good hearted and natured man and human being.... he's a "salt of the Earth" kind of person, as my father would have said about him. He loved Cap as a player. I can see poppa sitting in his rocking chair beside me silently smoking and nodding in agreement with me, by the way .... They're watching ^^^^^ upstairs ^^^^

I feel in my heart Kentucky is on the verge of blowing up on everyone again .... Another GOLDEN ERA.

I feel it in the air. I can sense it is coming again. I'm seeing it here and there again, in the little ways and in the big ways and hear it in people's voice now and see it in their faces when they talk about Kentucky now. It's changed.

When a Kentucky basketball player that eats a (although #1 in the United Kingdom) breakfast cereal and it's unheard of here in the U.S. and suddenly becomes the hottest breakfast item in the country - overnight ? Because our big guy Amari Williams likes them? Now everyone's eating them ?

are you kidding me ? :DI'm ordering now as we speak. Special delivery. I'm really looking forward to my bowl of Weetabix with warm milk and pure cane sugar! (NO sugar substitute FTW !)

If that isn't "the Needle" pointing the way, then I don't know what else I need to see or experience.

And this team, this family, ain't done yet !!

So far, my 1000% positive support being all in for Kentucky and Coach Pope still has me standing. I'm waiting for the bandwagon to grow - especially after this year. Just seeing the joy and happiness come back for a little ole' sweet sixteen appearance around here ...

you'd have thought Coach Pope would've had some kind of immediate post-game cutting down of the nets for making a sweet sixteen appearance, right ? Popcorn boxes already printed for next year to commemorate and rings for all the players .....

ahhhh ... it wasn't THAT BAD around here ..... nah.

So you all go on ahead and remember the Runt was here at the beginning of all this. I'm all in with Pope for the long road here. We got THE MAN now, and he loves us as much as we do him.

That's why it will not fail.

Love !

Love me some Kentucky Basketball ! Love me some Coach Pope !

Runt's rant #3,712 over

Go Big Blue !
 


In this clip, Matt Jones reflects the way I think about the current state of UK basketball better than any person I’ve ever heard.

Also, Tyler Hansbrough is a chicken shit and never engages him on anything. He just stares like a maniac for 11 minutes.

This is an adversarial crowd, including mushmouth Jeff Goodtwat, and Matt Jones represented us well.

Absolutely must see clip.
He did a really good job in that interview!
 
I really enjoy reading your thoughts, Eagles .... I concur on your salient points. Although I have been openly very vocal and positive in my support for Coach Pope, I just look at everything that happened this year in the context of a 50 year memory window for me. Except one thing :

Coach Pope IS a GREAT hire for us already.

Not a good hire. Not a very good hire. Legitimately great, and will be viewed as being so, in the future, although I would even agree saying he was "a really good hire" right now can be legitimately withheld, depending on how you look at everything and define good/very good/great/home run definition.

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runt rant #3,712 ON :

It's easy to sit back and say that Cal was a home run hire to begin with for Kentucky at the time. We had "The Door" thread for lords' sakes. Told you everything you need to know. Same with Pitino as a home run hire.

But this year was a far more significant and challenging thing to pickup as opposed to when Pitino left. with what Tubby had leftover compared to the condition Cal left when he did? Geez, Louise. We've all got our questions about Mitch, but he did us right in this hire, luck or not. So he got a GOOD rating if the season ends against the Vols in the sweet sixteen. Fair enough.

At worst - Coach Pope's job would have to be seen as a "Good Hire." Unanimous approval would have to be required, and I think we can all agree on THAT around here... .for this year? Sure.

But not even a "very good" yet? OK. Fair enough.

I'm just sitting here watching all this talk continue, safe and absolutely secure in knowing my faith and trust are well founded with Coach Mark Pope. I've been out front in being positive and hanging tough with all the adversity the year brought ON TOP OF what we were facing ...

and then you throw the fact that the SEC had the single greatest season EVER in the 100 years of basketball in the NCAA this YEAR ... and that's what we would be up against ? He more than held his own.

Beat Scheyer, Few, Kelsey, Golden, Barnes twice, Buzz. I'll bet they would all say Pope holds his own.

Not only is he as bright and cunning as any coach out there in the game today, he's got a vision and we're seeing it unfold.

Making the sweet sixteen this year, in the face of everything that happened, and all the "adversity" is a vindication of his ability more than a reason to question if he was a very good hire or not. At least 3 or 4 times this year the headlines were : "Coach pope and Kentucky faces adversity" ... the next headline the following day was : "Coach Pope and Kentucky successfully navigate adversity" .... how he kept the ship from sinking with the injuries was again, even MORE of a masterful coaching job, not good, not very good - but GREAT.

I said all along getting players like Chandler, Noah and Perry to so quickly be thrust into hardcore minutes and having success with them as a team was that much MORE of an indication as to his coaching prowess. I only think someone like Coach Pitino or a Coach Izzo might've been able to so successfully navigate the kind of eyar Coach pope has had to here at Kentucky, and get at least his results so far.

Absolutely he is a very good hire. The ultimate question is, will it be GREAT (A Home Run) hire.

I already say he is a great hire for Kentucky.

I'll stand right beside him every single day. He has a great personality and is well respected amongst his peers and is very intelligent. A truly good hearted and natured man and human being.... he's a "salt of the Earth" kind of person, as my father would have said about him. He loved Cap as a player. I can see poppa sitting in his rocking chair beside me silently smoking and nodding in agreement with me, by the way .... They're watching ^^^^^ upstairs ^^^^

I feel in my heart Kentucky is on the verge of blowing up on everyone again .... Another GOLDEN ERA.

I feel it in the air. I can sense it is coming again. I'm seeing it here and there again, in the little ways and in the big ways and hear it in people's voice now and see it in their faces when they talk about Kentucky now. It's changed.

When a Kentucky basketball player that eats a (although #1 in the United Kingdom) breakfast cereal and it's unheard of here in the U.S. and suddenly becomes the hottest breakfast item in the country - overnight ? Because our big guy Amari Williams likes them? Now everyone's eating them ?

are you kidding me ? :DI'm ordering now as we speak. Special delivery. I'm really looking forward to my bowl of Weetabix with warm milk and pure cane sugar! (NO sugar substitute FTW !)

If that isn't "the Needle" pointing the way, then I don't know what else I need to see or experience.

And this team, this family, ain't done yet !!

So far, my 1000% positive support being all in for Kentucky and Coach Pope still has me standing. I'm waiting for the bandwagon to grow - especially after this year. Just seeing the joy and happiness come back for a little ole' sweet sixteen appearance around here ...

you'd have thought Coach Pope would've had some kind of immediate post-game cutting down of the nets for making a sweet sixteen appearance, right ? Popcorn boxes already printed for next year to commemorate and rings for all the players .....

ahhhh ... it wasn't THAT BAD around here ..... nah.

So you all go on ahead and remember the Runt was here at the beginning of all this. I'm all in with Pope for the long road here. We got THE MAN now, and he loves us as much as we do him.

That's why it will not fail.

Love !

Love me some Kentucky Basketball ! Love me some Coach Pope !

Runt's rant #3,712 over

Go Big Blue !
Jesus, you were emotionally involved in that response😁
 
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In this clip, Matt Jones reflects the way I think about the current state of UK basketball better than any person I’ve ever heard.

Also, Tyler Hansbrough is a chicken shit and never engages him on anything. He just stares like a maniac for 11 minutes.

This is an adversarial crowd, including mushmouth Jeff Goodtwat, and Matt Jones represented us well.

Absolutely must see clip.
I honestly dont understand the Matt Jones hate. Do I want to go out and hang out with him? No,But he has taken a great brand ( UK SPORTS) and built his own brand with it. I think it only helps us as fans get information.
 
Pope definitely had some attributes that would lead one to believe he could succeed, namely his offenses have been among the most efficient at any level of basketball (including the NBA) since his Utah Valley State days. Honestly, he was at the forefront of the Zoom craze that is all over the NBA now. But there were also some major concerns too, not the least of which is that he's never won a conference regular season or tourney title and that he'd never won an NCAAT game. Matt's assertion was, and honestly I still think it holds true, that Coach Pope would've never gotten the job had he not played at UK. And that's completely fair, and probably completely accurate as well.

I'm not ready to say Mitch made a "really good hire" just yet. I can't base that on two NCAAT wins. Lets face it, the regular season result was just "meh". Had some great wins. Had some "meh" losses. Got our ass handed to us a number of times. Also had a lot of injuries. But all of that said, I think we can all agree it has been refreshing and fun again while also trending in the right direction. I just hope Mitch isn't in charge of any contract renegotiations. That's typically where he really effs up.
You and I disagree that the regular season was just meh...Overall, I think the results were about what I expected. We just won games I thought we would lose (Duke, Gonzaga, UT) but lost games I thought we would win (OSU, @GA, @Vandy) but the SEC was also a lot better than anyone predicted. He exceeded my expectations in the regular season and has met them in the post season with the sweet 16 as I said from the get go that making it there makes the season a success.

Saying Pope wouldn't have gotten the job here if he hadn't played at UK is different than saying he only got the job because he played here. The first part is true, while the second part isn't. I think his playing here was a big factor in him getting the job but I don't think it was the reason he was hired which is why I used Davis at UNC as an example. He was hired if not solely because he played there than it was the primary reason. IMO, Pope got a look because he played for UK but it was his success as a coach, his infectious energy, and overwhelming knowledge of what this job requires that got him hired. Playing her may have opened the door but those other things are what allowed him to walk through it.
 
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You and I disagree that the regular season was just meh...Overall, I think the results were about what I expected. We just won games I thought we would lose (Duke, Gonzaga, UT) but lost games I thought we would win (OSU, @GA, @Vandy) but the SEC was also a lot better than anyone predicted.
I agree with everything you said, but at the end of the day his team finished EXACTLY where I said they would. The road to get there looked NOTHING like what I expected it to (basically the games and results you listed). I vividly remember saying we'd be a game or two either side of .500 in the SEC and getting hammered for it. My reasoning wasn't because I thought Pope or the team sucked, but was 100% based on knowing the SEC was going to be THAT damned good. It's "meh" only in results. T6 and 10-8 in the league is "meh" by my UK standards. But I think we all agree the path to that was anything but "meh".

He exceeded my expectations in the regular season and has met them in the post season with the sweet 16 as I said from the get go that making it there makes the season a success.
The regular season was where I expected. I thought we had a chance, at the beginning of the year to get to the S16. Sunday morning I think I parlayed the game and took the Illini and gave 3. I honestly thought we could lose by 15-20. I had no clue we could defend them as well as we did.

Saying Pope wouldn't have gotten the job here if he hadn't played at UK is different than saying he only got the job because he played here. The first part is true, while the second part isn't.
1000% agree.
 
I honestly dont understand the Matt Jones hate. Do I want to go out and hang out with him? No,But he has taken a great brand ( UK SPORTS) and built his own brand with it. I think it only helps us as fans get information.
Same. Admittedly I love the show and all the information he provides. As someone who lives in MO, I love that I get to be that connected to the fan base and teams from afar. I can assure you of this, there aren't many college fanbases that get to experience something like KSR and the info and access they provide.
 
I really enjoy reading your thoughts, Eagles .... I concur on your salient points. Although I have been openly very vocal and positive in my support for Coach Pope, I just look at everything that happened this year in the context of a 50 year memory window for me. Except one thing :

Coach Pope IS a GREAT hire for us already.

Not a good hire. Not a very good hire. Legitimately great, and will be viewed as being so, in the future, although I would even agree saying he was "a really good hire" right now can be legitimately withheld, depending on how you look at everything and define good/very good/great/home run definition.

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runt rant #3,712 ON :

It's easy to sit back and say that Cal was a home run hire to begin with for Kentucky at the time. We had "The Door" thread for lords' sakes. Told you everything you need to know. Same with Pitino as a home run hire.

But this year was a far more significant and challenging thing to pickup as opposed to when Pitino left. with what Tubby had leftover compared to the condition Cal left when he did? Geez, Louise. We've all got our questions about Mitch, but he did us right in this hire, luck or not. So he got a GOOD rating if the season ends against the Vols in the sweet sixteen. Fair enough.

At worst - Coach Pope's job would have to be seen as a "Good Hire." Unanimous approval would have to be required, and I think we can all agree on THAT around here... .for this year? Sure.

But not even a "very good" yet? OK. Fair enough.

I'm just sitting here watching all this talk continue, safe and absolutely secure in knowing my faith and trust are well founded with Coach Mark Pope. I've been out front in being positive and hanging tough with all the adversity the year brought ON TOP OF what we were facing ...

and then you throw the fact that the SEC had the single greatest season EVER in the 100 years of basketball in the NCAA this YEAR ... and that's what we would be up against ? He more than held his own.

Beat Scheyer, Few, Kelsey, Golden, Barnes twice, Buzz. I'll bet they would all say Pope holds his own.

Not only is he as bright and cunning as any coach out there in the game today, he's got a vision and we're seeing it unfold.

Making the sweet sixteen this year, in the face of everything that happened, and all the "adversity" is a vindication of his ability more than a reason to question if he was a very good hire or not. At least 3 or 4 times this year the headlines were : "Coach pope and Kentucky faces adversity" ... the next headline the following day was : "Coach Pope and Kentucky successfully navigate adversity" .... how he kept the ship from sinking with the injuries was again, even MORE of a masterful coaching job, not good, not very good - but GREAT.

I said all along getting players like Chandler, Noah and Perry to so quickly be thrust into hardcore minutes and having success with them as a team was that much MORE of an indication as to his coaching prowess. I only think someone like Coach Pitino or a Coach Izzo might've been able to so successfully navigate the kind of eyar Coach pope has had to here at Kentucky, and get at least his results so far.

Absolutely he is a very good hire. The ultimate question is, will it be GREAT (A Home Run) hire.

I already say he is a great hire for Kentucky.

I'll stand right beside him every single day. He has a great personality and is well respected amongst his peers and is very intelligent. A truly good hearted and natured man and human being.... he's a "salt of the Earth" kind of person, as my father would have said about him. He loved Cap as a player. I can see poppa sitting in his rocking chair beside me silently smoking and nodding in agreement with me, by the way .... They're watching ^^^^^ upstairs ^^^^

I feel in my heart Kentucky is on the verge of blowing up on everyone again .... Another GOLDEN ERA.

I feel it in the air. I can sense it is coming again. I'm seeing it here and there again, in the little ways and in the big ways and hear it in people's voice now and see it in their faces when they talk about Kentucky now. It's changed.

When a Kentucky basketball player that eats a (although #1 in the United Kingdom) breakfast cereal and it's unheard of here in the U.S. and suddenly becomes the hottest breakfast item in the country - overnight ? Because our big guy Amari Williams likes them? Now everyone's eating them ?

are you kidding me ? :DI'm ordering now as we speak. Special delivery. I'm really looking forward to my bowl of Weetabix with warm milk and pure cane sugar! (NO sugar substitute FTW !)

If that isn't "the Needle" pointing the way, then I don't know what else I need to see or experience.

And this team, this family, ain't done yet !!

So far, my 1000% positive support being all in for Kentucky and Coach Pope still has me standing. I'm waiting for the bandwagon to grow - especially after this year. Just seeing the joy and happiness come back for a little ole' sweet sixteen appearance around here ...

you'd have thought Coach Pope would've had some kind of immediate post-game cutting down of the nets for making a sweet sixteen appearance, right ? Popcorn boxes already printed for next year to commemorate and rings for all the players .....

ahhhh ... it wasn't THAT BAD around here ..... nah.

So you all go on ahead and remember the Runt was here at the beginning of all this. I'm all in with Pope for the long road here. We got THE MAN now, and he loves us as much as we do him.

That's why it will not fail.

Love !

Love me some Kentucky Basketball ! Love me some Coach Pope !

Runt's rant #3,712 over

Go Big Blue !
I'm exhausted after reading that. Lol. You've earned that screen name. Thank you for the kind words, btw. I do like to poke the bear from time to time, but I do honestly think I have some decent knowledge of the sport and team. I'm completely taking the emotions out of my not "a very good" hire and just basing it off of results and only results. I don't care how awesome, engaging and inviting Coach Pope has been five years from now if he's averaging 21 regular season wins, T6 in the SEC, and a S16 appearances. That's not to crap on this season either, btw. I'm just saying if 5 yrs from now if this is the "standard", it won't be a very good hire. But again, I think we all agree it's trending in the correct direction. I probably just don't have as much faith as others. I need to see results. Afterall, I've lived the last 38 yrs of my life in the "show me" state (btw, I HATE when people say that...LOL).
 
Tyler is an absolute homer and hates UK. He cannot objectively talk about UK basketball. If he’s on a field of 68 video about UNC or UK I don’t watch because I already know his view. He tried to say UNC was some magically different team when they beat 6 quad 3-4 teams in a row because they put Lubin in his natural position. Like they blow man, nothing they try is gonna make them beat good teams.
True but we were high on his list of teams before he chose UNC. I remember seeing him at Keeneland on his visit
 
It was us and Carolina. I think it was always Carolina, but us and them were the only two he considered at the end. I can assure you of that.
He sure doesn’t sound like he ever wanted to be here the way he talks now. John Henson on the other hand, really cool. Doesn’t sound like a typical UNC player at all and is really fair in his takes.
 
He sure doesn’t sound like he ever wanted to be here the way he talks now. John Henson on the other hand, really cool. Doesn’t sound like a typical UNC player at all and is really fair in his takes.
I hear you and get what you’re saying. I’ve just got pretty solid first hand knowledge of it. KU and Mizzou were the other “finalists”. They were never a legit option. Roy started recruiting him when he was still at KU. Maybe Tyler’s sophomore yr. He was in on him before ANY of the P5s. I honestly believe he was always headed there. But I’m telling you, we were #2. For whatever that is worth.
 
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I hear you and get what you’re saying. I’ve just got pretty solid first hand knowledge of it. KU and Mizzou were the other “finalists”. They were never a legit option. Roy started recruiting him when he was still at KU. Maybe Tyler’s sophomore yr. He was in on him before ANY of the P5s. I honestly believe he was always headed there. But I’m telling you, we were #2. For whatever that is worth.
I remember we recruited him and I have no reason to doubt you, I just don’t know why he hates us so bad now, seems weird.
 
Great interview, and I was someone who really wanted us to get Todd Golden after not getting Hurley and Pearl. I was skeptical on Pope not only at first, but for a good portion of the year, even though the jury is still out. Pope is changing my mind, however. I still think Golden would have been the most underrated and potentially best hire for us. Not only how he's turned Florida into potentially the best team in CBB, but look at how hungry and the fire he coaches with. The guy is still so young, too. He could have possibly been here for 20 plus years, even though people say that UK is only a 10 year job. It's going to be fun watching Pope and Golden go at in the future.
 
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I really enjoy reading your thoughts, Eagles .... I concur on your salient points. Although I have been openly very vocal and positive in my support for Coach Pope, I just look at everything that happened this year in the context of a 50 year memory window for me. Except one thing :

Coach Pope IS a GREAT hire for us already.

Not a good hire. Not a very good hire. Legitimately great, and will be viewed as being so, in the future, although I would even agree saying he was "a really good hire" right now can be legitimately withheld, depending on how you look at everything and define good/very good/great/home run definition.

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runt rant #3,712 ON :

It's easy to sit back and say that Cal was a home run hire to begin with for Kentucky at the time. We had "The Door" thread for lords' sakes. Told you everything you need to know. Same with Pitino as a home run hire.

But this year was a far more significant and challenging thing to pickup as opposed to when Pitino left. with what Tubby had leftover compared to the condition Cal left when he did? Geez, Louise. We've all got our questions about Mitch, but he did us right in this hire, luck or not. So he got a GOOD rating if the season ends against the Vols in the sweet sixteen. Fair enough.

At worst - Coach Pope's job would have to be seen as a "Good Hire." Unanimous approval would have to be required, and I think we can all agree on THAT around here... .for this year? Sure.

But not even a "very good" yet? OK. Fair enough.

I'm just sitting here watching all this talk continue, safe and absolutely secure in knowing my faith and trust are well founded with Coach Mark Pope. I've been out front in being positive and hanging tough with all the adversity the year brought ON TOP OF what we were facing ...

and then you throw the fact that the SEC had the single greatest season EVER in the 100 years of basketball in the NCAA this YEAR ... and that's what we would be up against ? He more than held his own.

Beat Scheyer, Few, Kelsey, Golden, Barnes twice, Buzz. I'll bet they would all say Pope holds his own.

Not only is he as bright and cunning as any coach out there in the game today, he's got a vision and we're seeing it unfold.

Making the sweet sixteen this year, in the face of everything that happened, and all the "adversity" is a vindication of his ability more than a reason to question if he was a very good hire or not. At least 3 or 4 times this year the headlines were : "Coach pope and Kentucky faces adversity" ... the next headline the following day was : "Coach Pope and Kentucky successfully navigate adversity" .... how he kept the ship from sinking with the injuries was again, even MORE of a masterful coaching job, not good, not very good - but GREAT.

I said all along getting players like Chandler, Noah and Perry to so quickly be thrust into hardcore minutes and having success with them as a team was that much MORE of an indication as to his coaching prowess. I only think someone like Coach Pitino or a Coach Izzo might've been able to so successfully navigate the kind of eyar Coach pope has had to here at Kentucky, and get at least his results so far.

Absolutely he is a very good hire. The ultimate question is, will it be GREAT (A Home Run) hire.

I already say he is a great hire for Kentucky.

I'll stand right beside him every single day. He has a great personality and is well respected amongst his peers and is very intelligent. A truly good hearted and natured man and human being.... he's a "salt of the Earth" kind of person, as my father would have said about him. He loved Cap as a player. I can see poppa sitting in his rocking chair beside me silently smoking and nodding in agreement with me, by the way .... They're watching ^^^^^ upstairs ^^^^

I feel in my heart Kentucky is on the verge of blowing up on everyone again .... Another GOLDEN ERA.

I feel it in the air. I can sense it is coming again. I'm seeing it here and there again, in the little ways and in the big ways and hear it in people's voice now and see it in their faces when they talk about Kentucky now. It's changed.

When a Kentucky basketball player that eats a (although #1 in the United Kingdom) breakfast cereal and it's unheard of here in the U.S. and suddenly becomes the hottest breakfast item in the country - overnight ? Because our big guy Amari Williams likes them? Now everyone's eating them ?

are you kidding me ? :DI'm ordering now as we speak. Special delivery. I'm really looking forward to my bowl of Weetabix with warm milk and pure cane sugar! (NO sugar substitute FTW !)

If that isn't "the Needle" pointing the way, then I don't know what else I need to see or experience.

And this team, this family, ain't done yet !!

So far, my 1000% positive support being all in for Kentucky and Coach Pope still has me standing. I'm waiting for the bandwagon to grow - especially after this year. Just seeing the joy and happiness come back for a little ole' sweet sixteen appearance around here ...

you'd have thought Coach Pope would've had some kind of immediate post-game cutting down of the nets for making a sweet sixteen appearance, right ? Popcorn boxes already printed for next year to commemorate and rings for all the players .....

ahhhh ... it wasn't THAT BAD around here ..... nah.

So you all go on ahead and remember the Runt was here at the beginning of all this. I'm all in with Pope for the long road here. We got THE MAN now, and he loves us as much as we do him.

That's why it will not fail.

Love !

Love me some Kentucky Basketball ! Love me some Coach Pope !

Runt's rant #3,712 over

Go Big Blue !

Bro that’s the sickest post, it’s something I would do as a new one after 12 beers and get heckled over.

I freaking love it and couldn’t agree more. Lets get them Vols!
 
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