Love the kid but in defense of Murray, Ulis was involved in the 2 plays that almost lost the game. The 5-second call and shot-clock violation where he got caught in the air with 2 seconds on the clock. As Cal says, we have a loooooonnng way to go.
First time ive ever seen 1 player almost lose
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Found Zay's other account. Oh, and OP, does the name Chris Webber happen to ring a bell to you? Wouldn't be BBN if we didn't find something to complain about in a sorely needed bounce back victory over a ranked rival team. The point is WE DIDN'T LOSE, and as much as he turned the ball over, we don't win this game without him. "So and so almost lost us the game" is kind of a moot point when you win.
Guess you were probably trashing Murray during the Ohio State game as well, right? You know, when he was the only player on the court giving us anything. It was embarrassing enough as is, can you imagine if we didn't have him that game? With the effort our team gave in that game, we probably would have lost by 30.
With Skal giving us nothing can you imagine this team right now had Murray committed to Oregon? I shudder to think sometimes.
I have no problem with Murray's dunk attempt. He pulls that off and he lives forever at UK. That play would have been talked about in the UK/UL rivalry forever.
I agree about the five seconds call, but the shot could have easily been avoided. Dom froze when he should have let that shot fly with confidence, especially with him already being 3 out of 4 on the say.
Even if he missed it still would have taken a few more seconds off the game clock, and UofL would have had under 10 seconds on the last play.
Louisville had that shot blocked. Hawk didn't have enough time to shot-fake, move and re-load the shot or pass it. Bad play by Ulis to get caught in the air and pass to a covered Hawkins, in an otherwise great game by him.
The violation was actually better than a blocked shot that would likely have sent them to the hoop in transition on the other end.
I think Poy quit about the time that we couldn't make any shots... He didn't move to the basket like he did in the first half and at the beginning of the second half.... He goes into a trance ever so often... I think it was that as much as anything that allowed UL back into the game, plus some timely calls... Some really bad bounces and some good plays by UL...
Not sure about that. I'll have to go back and rewatch it, but from what I recall Dom had enough time and space to take one dribble, then he tried to pass off to Murray.
Instead of taking that one dribble, allowing the defense to close and time to run off the clock, he had the space and time to immediately catch and shoot.
I blame Cal for some of Murray's driving too deep, you can hear cal yell "drive it drive it drive it"..IMO Murray nees to be a spot up shooter 90% of the time..Let Ulis and Briscoe drive and kick to Murray for 3....The bigger problem i see is we're too small as a team...
He just needs to calm down a bit and not force things so much. I have no doubt that will improve with time - 18 year old kid isn't going to be perfect. I wouldn't trade him for the world. Kid is ultra talented and has a competitive edge about him that you can't teach.
well, to be fair, that 5 second call was awfully quick - I think they were a bit early on it. But won't argue the shot clock violation, that was Hawkins too, though
Yeah I replayed it several times. Number 13 for Lewdville turned to contest the shot with no time left to do anything. Maybe his feet weren't set and he hesitated some but it looked like it might have been contested anyway by a much taller player.
I didn't bother to read the entire thread but "pat his stats" are we adding that to Rafters misquote folk lore? lol
If he is a train wreck, it is because he chooses to be. It is one thing to be pressured in to turnovers, it is another thing to pass up the open shot and drive into double and sometimes triple defenders for unforced turnovers. He should have spent a lot more time on the bench.
He had a great game last week because he caught the ball and shot it. There were no senseless drives into the mouth of the defense for turnovers.
He is either in Lex or back to his homeland. I can't wait to pull up the old posts saying how Skal was a top pick and would be a one and done. These folks called anyone disagreeing with them idiots. They are probably deleting old posts right now.
Ullis won the game for us with his play today. He steps up in these big games. Love that kid.
After we went up 14, our offense went in the tank. At that point it looked like none of our guys wanted to take a shot. Murray scored 9 of our next 13 points. That was huge. I realize you rarely have much positive to post, but if you're going to bash the kid, at least give him credit for the good things he did too.
Murray made three huge 3's in a game where we win by only two. As poorly as he played, we still don't win without him. Can't crap on the kid too bad.
Blue63Madison making the same point I was trying to articulate, only better.
Think Murray tried to do too much with Briscoe not playing. He ended up putting himself in really poor positions and RP was NOT going to let him go off like he did in the 2nd half of the Ohio State game.
Absolutely. I'm not down on the kid. He just had a bad game. His issues can easily be fixed.
Meh. Murray played the worst out of the guys that played the most minutes but Willis and Matthews didn't play well when they were in either.
My biggest frustration was with Cal. The switch to having Ulis inbound the ball was a bad move and then almost cost himself again by going to stall ball too soon. Then again the Wisconsin game is the only one I can think of that we actually lost because we took the air out of the ball too soon.
I didn't think either team played great tbh. Lee carried Louisville, we simply couldn't guard that guy and Kentucky made up for bad offense by hitting shots they don't normally hit.
Hopefully we start hitting those shots though. We're starting to heat up a little. That's 2 games in a row we've shot much better from 3.
Keep doing that, Briscoe fixes his free throw shooting and get Skal going and we're a contender.
But I truly believe all 3 of those things have to happen for it to be legit.
My biggest frustration was with Cal. The switch to having Ulis inbound the ball was a bad move and then almost cost himself again by going to stall ball too soon. Then again the Wisconsin game is the only one I can think of that we actually lost because we took the air out of the ball too soon.
I didn't think either team played great tbh. Lee carried Louisville, we simply couldn't guard that guy and Kentucky made up for bad offense by hitting shots they don't normally hit.
Hopefully we start hitting those shots though. We're starting to heat up a little. That's 2 games in a row we've shot much better from 3.
Keep doing that, Briscoe fixes his free throw shooting and get Skal going and we're a contender.
But I truly believe all 3 of those things have to happen for it to be legit.
I like Murray a lot, but he has to quit getting into the lane not knowing what to do next. Ulis was the man today. I think he got tired toward the end because he was deferring to Murray to handle the ball more. Hawkins played great also. I think he got tight there at the end and didn't take the open shot that caused the shot clock violation. I don't think we'll be great this year. due to being so weak inside but I do think we will get much better.
You could easily count some of his ill advised shots as turnovers. The guy is going to be very good, he just makes terrible decisions as of now. Defensively he was a ghost.
Murray had some high highs and some low lows in this game. Seems like every time he was involved in a play it was either great or terrible, no in between.
Trust in Cal. He knows this team has no chance in March unless he has Murray, Briscoe, and Skal playing better. Therefore, it appears to me he is giving them a lot of leash and letting them develop. That is just fine with me.
If that dunk goes in that Murray tried to throw down it is probably the play of the year.
This team will live or die in March with the play primarily of Ulis and Murray.
Trust in Cal. He knows this team has no chance in March unless he has Murray, Briscoe, and Skal playing better. Therefore, it appears to me he is giving them a lot of leash and letting them develop. That is just fine with me.
If that dunk goes in that Murray tried to throw down it is probably the play of the year.
This team will live or die in March with the play primarily of Ulis and Murray.
