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First Cal era like game under Pope

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Slightly disturbing trend last 3 games. Subpar 40 minutes at Clemson. Terrible 1st 20 minutes vs Gonzaga. Painful 40 minutes against Colgate. Louisville is solid this year. Cats need steady solid 40 to beat them
 
Slightly disturbing trend last 3 games. Subpar 40 minutes at Clemson. Terrible 1st 20 minutes vs Gonzaga. Painful 40 minutes against Colgate. Louisville is solid this year. Cats need steady solid 40 to beat them
Loserville has like 5 players out.. Won't matter being a rivalry game but not like they are making the NCAA tournament this year..
 
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I think we are a pretty good team.
We are not an excellent team.
I think we end up with 10 losses on the year:
11-7 SEC
1 SEC Tournament
1 NCAA Tournament.
This assumes we beat Louisville on Saturday and Ohio State in NYC ....
10 losses is a pretty good year, especially with the SEC so damn tough this year.

We lost 11 games last year ... fwiw
 
Pope needs to figure out why guys were standing around on offense tonight. We're 10 games in, come on.
Pope let Perry n Chandler play extended minutes in the first half and Colgate went right at them!
They’ll be better next year but they’re not SEC ready yet!
Noah did show some promise though.
When all are healthy it’s a 9 man rotation from there..
 
Slightly disturbing trend last 3 games. Subpar 40 minutes at Clemson. Terrible 1st 20 minutes vs Gonzaga. Painful 40 minutes against Colgate. Louisville is solid this year. Cats need steady solid 40 to beat them
The most disturbing part for me is that it was Pope’s substitution patterns after the 17-0 start that caused this to be a close game.

Perry, Chandler, and Almanor were killing us. Carr and Williams had success down low, and he had them on the bench. I’m all for subbing when you’re up 17-0, but you have to recognize when the other team is making a run and adjust appropriately.
 
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The most disturbing part for me is that it was Pope’s substitution patterns after the 17-0 start that caused this to be a close game.

Perry, Chandler, and Almanor were killing us. Carr and Williams had success down low, and he had them on the bench. I’m all for subbing when you’re up 17-0, but you have to recognize when the other team is making a run and adjust appropriately.
How are the other kids supposed to get better if they don't get off the bench? Colgate was no threat. You're just upset because we didn't win by 30.
 
Once again, Colgate was no threat. Let them learn from their mistakes.
As I said in the game thread, we did learn something valuable tonight - Chandler and Perry are unplayable in SEC play.

The rotation will have to be:

Butler
Robinson
Oweh
Carr
Williams

Brea
Garrison
Almanor

Then I’d give Noah the nod after those 8.
 
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Pope needs to figure out why guys were standing around on offense tonight. We're 10 games in, come on.

They weren't ready to operate the offense against the Colgate zone... I think that thru them out of rhythm.

Also, I think getting up big early put them in a "coasting" mindset creating some lack of effort issues as well...they thought Colgate would fold, but they didn't.
 
Slightly disturbing trend last 3 games. Subpar 40 minutes at Clemson. Terrible 1st 20 minutes vs Gonzaga. Painful 40 minutes against Colgate. Louisville is solid this year. Cats need steady solid 40 to beat them
I chalk this game up to they played at Clemson, fly out west 3 time zones and played then had to fly back 3 time zones and play tonight against an opponent they may have taken the night off thinking they would cake walk thru it, so now they learned a lesson..
 
Brassow?

For the 10th time, I’m not saying not to give bench players some run. But he left them in far too long. And several of us were saying as much in the game thread as it was happening.
 
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Slightly disturbing trend last 3 games. Subpar 40 minutes at Clemson. Terrible 1st 20 minutes vs Gonzaga. Painful 40 minutes against Colgate. Louisville is solid this year. Cats need steady solid 40 to beat them

I'm confused a little by your post here...

You point out that the Cats had a terrible 1sr 20 minutes against Gonzaga (in a game the Cats won), but they are going to need a full 40 to beat UL. Are you suggesting that the Cards are better than the Zags?

I can agree this team needs to start putting together a full 40 mins of effort, but the top 2 PGs are out due to recent injuries so players are having to figure out how to play with one another...again (considering the roster is new and the guys were just starting to get into a groove with one another).
 
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I think we are a pretty good team.
We are not an excellent team.
I think we end up with 10 losses on the year:
11-7 SEC
1 SEC Tournament
1 NCAA Tournament.
This assumes we beat Louisville on Saturday and Ohio State in NYC ....
10 losses is a pretty good year, especially with the SEC so damn tough this year.

We lost 11 games last year ... fwiw
Yeah. That’s a good season moving forward.

The old “10 loss” monicker as a criticism isn’t the same as the current conference realignment era for the SEC.

Basically a power 2.5 conference system and everyone else. Unfortunately some of the brand names will get to take advantage of weakened conferences and consistently earn 1 seeds by going .500 in the out of conference…aka: the Gonzaga recipe now applies to everyone outside the B10/SEC. Even the B12 is just Kansas, OK, OKState TTU and a bunch of previous mid major teams that were at the top of the mid major pile to take advantage of conference shuffling the last 5-10 years.
 
You mean to tell me you've been sitting on a burner account since before Cal even got hired?
Yea Mr. Senior poster, may I ask for your approval so I can post some more. Trying to show all us rookies up by letting everyone know you know how to do background checks on the forum. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation but to run down a post, move on.
 
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This happens. I have seen it so many times under many different coaches.

I will take you back to 1993 season. We beat a top 5 Georgia Tech team at Rupp on a Saturday night. The next weekend we played top 10 UL at Freedom Hall.

Midweek, we played EKU. Heavy favorites. Mashburn carried us and the rest of the team stunk it up. The Colonels hung around all night and led several times. We played sloppy, uninspired and never could put them away. We hung on to win by 9. I was there.

That team went to UL and won by 20 in the next game.

That team is a lot better than this one.

My point is that these games happen to everyone. Our rotation was off, we had no healthy true PGs, we didn’t shoot it too well, the building was dead until it appeared we could lose, and our effort/engery was lacking. I chalk it up to Gonzaga hangover plus looking ahead to Louisville.
 
I'm confused a little by your post here...

You point out that the Cats had a terrible 1sr 20 minutes against Gonzaga (in a game the Cats won), but they are going to need a full 40 to beat UL. Are you suggesting that the Cards are better than the Zags?

I can agree this team needs to start putting together a full 40 mins of effort, but the top 2 PGs are out due to recent injuries so players are having to figure out how to play with one another...again (considering the roster is new and the guys were just starting to get into a groove with one another).
No just saying rivalry game added to an upgraded roster means it will take a solid effort. Cards had Duke down 31-16 and led at halftime
 
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The last thing UK needs is another raving lunatic like Cal who screams like a madman. But even in Popes postgame presser he seems way too nice and passive. He said it was a good night. Now I’m sure practice will be another story, but I hope he ultimately can offer tough love and harsh criticism when needed. Different ways to motivate, just hope Pope is demanding and holds folks accountable.
 
Pope let Perry n Chandler play extended minutes in the first half and Colgate went right at them!
They’ll be better next year but they’re not SEC ready yet!
Noah did show some promise though.
When all are healthy it’s a 9 man rotation from there..
Exactly.
I would add: Coach Pope got exactly what he wanted. He never called a TO or adjusted defense etc. I'm confident he was A-OK with a subpar humbling game.
 
Brassow?

For the 10th time, I’m not saying not to give bench players some run. But he left them in far too long. And several of us were saying as much in the game thread as it was happening.
I agree he left them in way too long but he had to see what he has and now he knows. Perry played with his hair on fire and Iwas very surprised he looked very nervous. He’s a 4 year guy imo or maybe transfers to an EKU. Chandler more athletic but same feel and when he let’s it go, I never think it’s going in. I hope I am wrong but he looks like a perfect candidate to be our first transfer probably back out west, again hope I’m wrong.

IF Pope get us to 23ish wins he’s coach of the year candidate, very very happy we have him. With what I’ve seen him do to Duke and Gonzaga with our talent, we are in good hands.
 
Exactly.
I would add: Coach Pope got exactly what he wanted. He never called a TO or adjusted defense etc. I'm confident he was A-OK with a subpar humbling game.
After seeing what Reed did, I was excited about Perry. But honestly, he looks too slow and too small for the SEC. Chandler meanwhile needs to hit the gym and shoot 1000 3’s a day.
 
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