Of course. UCLA in 95 comes to mind too.
FAU loses to Bryant
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Has nothing to do with whether it's a quad this or a quad that. Has everything to do with overreacting to a loss in November...
A bad loss is a bad loss, and people are reacting a reasonable way to a bad loss.
Evansville was a bad loss. People were right to react this way to Evansville. Bryant is bad.
You seem to think no matter how bad the loss is, no one should care. We'll agree to disagree.
No, you're putting words in my mouth. My original response was not to you, so you're aruging a completely different context. Never once did I argue it wasn't a bad loss. Again, putting words into my mouth. I argued about overreacting. Because they lost one game in November does NOT mean they should be labeled as a "flash in the pan" or whatever the original post I responded to labeled them.
Just like Purdue losing to a 16-seed somehow means they were wildly overrated. Bad loss, sure. But they have an entire season worth of success to back up the fact they were worthy of a 1-seed. Kentucky fans are probably the worst of all college basketball fans in overreacting. Disagree if you want, but just wild overreactions every season, all season. And now we have threads about OTHER programs wildly overreacting about FAU's early season loss.
Well look at that. FAU beats #12 ranked Texas AM, goes on to win the tournament by completely dismantling Virginia Tech by 34 points. Good thing they didn't write themselves off after an early season loss to Bryant...
I don't think I EVER said we should write them off.
I said it was a bad loss and it's ok to question if a team is overrated after a bad loss.
I still question if they're a top 10 team. Sorry. Maybe they'll keep proving me wrong.
I mean, hell, Everyone calls Duke overrated. Duke can be overrated but FAU can't?
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I don't know...maybe beating UL was the straw that tipped the balance, but Billy Clyde had taken 2 also-ran programs to heights they'd never been. He was definitely on our radar. I remember personally touting him as a Tubby replacement long before the louisville game.
Fvcking Tyus Edney, man. Ugh! Was sweating them dead in that game against Mizzou. 🤦♂️
Virginia in 2019 was one of the luckiest champs ever.
Much, much more about starting a thread on a UK message board bashing FAU because they lost a game in November. Just have no idea why people love to freak out, criticize, chirp, etc. after a SINGLE EARLY SEASON LOSS - especially in a sport that plays well over 30 games.
Could they be overrated? Sure. But a single early season loss doesn't determine that - that takes persistent evaluation - to the tune of multiple losses against inferior opponents, for example - not being a fool (not saying you) that rushes to label them as overrated because they lost one game in November.
Sure.
But is it unreasonable to discuss whether or not they’re overrated after such a bad loss? I don’t think so.
When we lost to Evansville, everyone rightfully lost their minds.
It doesn’t prove you’re bad. But it’s certainly a red flag. And while the evaluation is ongoing, I’m not gonna forget the bad November loss.
Then why don't you do it in reverse? Why isn't Bryant somehow better than their record because they beat FAU? Why wasn't St. Peter's highly ranked to start the season after beating UK and Purdue? It's because you don't freak out about 1 or 2 games.
I also don't freak out for just a bucket. UK losing to Miami (OH) if Wall doesn't hit the buzzer beater - that one sole possession doesn't really decide anything in my mind. UK should still go on to have the season they did whether that ONE shot is made or not. Arkansas getting that buzzer-beater putback at home to beat UK didn't change my mind about what kind of team UK had.
Not sure if that makes sense or not.
A&M had their top rebounder and second leading scorer both on the bench against FAU. I will speculate the outcome would have been different if Coleman and Radford were playing.
Both of them started and played that game. Coleman got hurt and did not play in the second half (14 minutes total) and Radford was sick and played only 18 minutes.
FAU on the other hand was completely without its starting point guard (Nick Boyd) and backup center (Giancarlo Rosado) - neither of whom played at all.
At the end of the day, it's a message board. If you're coming here, it's to have a discussion.
When a highly rated team loses to a team that is perceived to be bad in November, it is commonplace to discuss whether or not the highly rated team was overrated. It's normal. ESPN does it. Other message boards do it.
You don't have to like it or agree with it. But that's normal message board conversation.
I'm not dying on the hill that FAU is a bad team or that they can't have a good season. But I feel like you're acting like you can't believe people would have these discussions. It's a message board. That's the reason that we come here is to have discussions.
To your point about Bryant being better than I thought. Maybe. But FAU was viewed as a top 10 team. I don't think Bryant is good to the point they're beating top 10 teams on the regular. I think it's still a terrible loss. I think it'll be a Quad 4 loss at the end of the season, and that could ultimately knock them down a seed line.
We're not going to agree. So we should agree to disagree and move forward on this one. It seems like we agree in a lot of other threads.
