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Fallout starting? UL's Ramsey possibly to announce exit 3/1

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Unconfirmed but some speculation that Pres Ramsey will cash out his millions and head into the sunset at the next BOT meeting on 3/1. Lots of issues and not all tied to problems in basketball. Did step up with the self imposed penalty but most of the fans disagreed seemly still focused on getting caught cheating rather than being irate with the AD, Coaches and school.
 
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Kybluedude said:
Unconfirmed but some speculation that Pres Ramsey will cash out his millions and head into the sunset at the next BOT meeting on 3/1. Lots of issues and not all tied to problems in basketball. Did step up with the self imposed penalty but most of the fans disagreed seemly still focused on getting caught cheating rather than being irate with the AD, Coaches and school.
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This is probably a good move for UL, but I think they will make him a fall guy so that the true sacred cows (Jurich and Petrino) can skate without any consequences...
 
Yeah, it would make more sense for him to clean house before he goes but it looks like that is not going to happen.
 
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STUCKNBIG10 said:
This is probably a good move for UL, but I think they will make him a fall guy so that the true sacred cows (Jurich and Petrino) can skate without any consequences...
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Anything less than a total house cleaning should leave the NCAA no choice than to bring the hammer down hard. When you think of our transgressions in the late 80's and the penalties involved our accusations were far far less severe than what's been going on at brothel U. Ramsey is dirty as hell but also the least likely to have known any of the shenanigans going on. Pitino and jurich are ultimately responsible for that rodeo and if one or the other or both try to hold on then the NCAA should bury them both with sanctions that sets the program back for minimally 5 years if not longer.
 
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Kybluedude said:
Unconfirmed but some speculation that Pres Ramsey will cash out his millions and head into the sunset at the next BOT meeting on 3/1. Lots of issues and not all tied to problems in basketball. Did step up with the self imposed penalty but most of the fans disagreed seemly still focused on getting caught cheating rather than being irate with the AD, Coaches and school.
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That place is a total mess. Athletics, academics, embezzlement, paying off employs not to tell. My lord their medical school was on academic probation. I wouldn't send my child to school there if it was the only school that accepted him. None of this seems to bother University of Louisville fans. It truly is a sad, sad state of affairs.
 
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MJ said yesterday, Ramsey and the BOT met at Ramsey's house this past Saturday and that Ramsey told them he'd be gone sooner rather than later.
 
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Anything less than a total house cleaning should leave the NCAA no choice than to bring the hammer down hard. When you think of our transgressions in the late 80's and the penalties involved our accusations were far far less severe than what's been going on at brothel U. Ramsey is dirty as hell but also the least likely to have known any of the shenanigans going on. Pitino and jurich are ultimately responsible for that rodeo and if one or the other or both try to hold on then the NCAA should bury them both with sanctions that sets the program back for minimally 5 years if not longer.
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He can't clean house...

I'm sure that he'd be glad to get out unscathed himself.
 
STUCKNBIG10 said:
This is probably a good move for UL, but I think they will make him a fall guy so that the true sacred cows (Jurich and Petrino) can skate without any consequences...
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If a new president comes in before the NCAA is done and then the new guy is handed the final report and handed additional sanctions he may just decide to clean house and start over with people he trust.

So Jurich may not be so safe. The new president may not be able to do anything to Petrino but with his buddy gone he will get the message and move on.

Eventually they will all be gone.
 
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I wonder if Ramsey will be offered the same deal as he gave to the key people in the finance area that recently retired from UL. They were given one years pay in exchange for non-disclosure agreements. They can't let anyone know where the bodies are buried you know.

"Experts on university practices, including Marcia McCormick, an employment law professor at St. Louis University, also say it is inappropriate for a public university to pay to buy the silence of officials who are in the best position to inform the public about how a university is being run and spending public money.

Jason Kurland, a leader of the Washington-based American Association of University Professors and a former administrator and professor at the University of California, said he was disappointed with both the university and the three administrators — and that he'd never heard of "anything quite like this."

"They are selling their souls for some extra money," he said. "This is not the way to do business."......

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lle-pays-administrators-for-silence/6515713/#
 
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If Ramsey decides to resign it will have no effect on any NCAA penalties. This issue is a Athletic Dept. issue not Administrative issue, Pitino will have to be offered up as the sacrificial lamb for it to matter to NCAA. Ramsey leaving is due to all of the other non athletic issues that have gone on under his watch. Just a opinion.
 
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i'm just a common uk basketball fan, and not privy to nor knowledgeable of the inner workings of big universities or the ncaa, but i don't see how tom turtleneck can keep his job through this debacle.
it's an athletic issue so why isn't this mess laid at his feet first and foremost?
instead all i read and hear is the bb coach is gone and the university president is gone.
many of the birdbrain fans even like the idea of replacing ramsey with juritch.
total insanity.
 
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Turtleneck is most beloved by the cards because he has built winning programs. He hasn't had the public scandals of Pitino/Petrino. They will want him on duty to rebuild the basketball program. He has more deniability than Pitino and I doubt that the NCAA will seek to punish him. Tommy is the only one of the three stooges that may survive.
 
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Ugoff said:
If Jurich stays they'll be going through this again in a few years.
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Will they continue to have athletic scandals, or will they face NCAA penalties? that's an important distinction, because that crowd doesn't care about unseemly messes or scandals, unless there are consequences.
 
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Will they continue to have athletic scandals, or will they face NCAA penalties? that's an important distinction, because that crowd doesn't care about unseemly messes or scandals, unless there are consequences.
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Good point. I'm hoping their days of skating out of messes will be over for a while.
 
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DSmith21: He hasn't had the public scandals of Pitino/Petrino.

turtleneck hired both. he is their immediate supervisor. he's responsible for hiring within the athletics dept. and overseeing it and making sure it is operating per ncaa rules.
so why aren't Pitino/Petrino scandals also Turtleneck scandals.
 
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DSmith21: He hasn't had the public scandals of Pitino/Petrino.

turtleneck hired both. he is their immediate supervisor. he's responsible for hiring within the athletics dept. and overseeing it and making sure it is operating per ncaa rules.
so why aren't Pitino/Petrino scandals also Turtleneck scandals.
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Tommy gave both Ricky & Bobby a second chance. Its what they do at ULOL. Seriously, I think that Tom is partly responsible for what went on but to a lessor degree than Pitino. Bobby's B.S. happened at another school. UL fans will want to keep Tom at all cost because of past success. That doesn't mean that its the right thing to do.

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cats2010 said:
Anything less than a total house cleaning should leave the NCAA no choice than to bring the hammer down hard. When you think of our transgressions in the late 80's and the penalties involved our accusations were far far less severe than what's been going on at brothel U. Ramsey is dirty as hell but also the least likely to have known any of the shenanigans going on. Pitino and jurich are ultimately responsible for that rodeo and if one or the other or both try to hold on then the NCAA should bury them both with sanctions that sets the program back for minimally 5 years if not longer.
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I would be SHOCKED if all three are gone. Jurich, perhaps more than Pitino, as the people in that town are so in love with them, regardless of the dirt attached to both of them. If I were a betting man, I would bet that Ramsey is gone and the other two are protected in all of this. It's wrong, but that's what will happen IMO.
 
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This means Ramsey lost on the power play with Pitino. The snub of Pitino when Ramsey gave Jurich a vote of confidence when the prostitution story broke and then the post season ban that Pitino had no input into. Now Ramsey is gone and Pitino will still be there.
 
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Ugoff said:
If Jurich stays they'll be going through this again in a few years.
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i have asked this before and have not seen an answer

how many times has UL been in trouble with the NCAA under Jurich?
i think 2, but may be mistaken
 
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If a new president comes in before the NCAA is done and then the new guy is handed the final report and handed additional sanctions he may just decide to clean house and start over with people he trust.

So Jurich may not be so safe. The new president may not be able to do anything to Petrino but with his buddy gone he will get the message and move on.

Eventually they will all be gone.
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No way. The tards already think they are getting a raw deal with the ban. Should a total clean out happen, in protest they will burn the west end to the ground..They want to win and could care less how it happens.
 
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i have asked this before and have not seen an answer

how many times has UL been in trouble with the NCAA under Jurich?
i think 2, but may be mistaken
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I think that you are right. Jurrich was hired in 1997 when the birds were already on one probation. Shortly there after, they got another. Of course this is only basketball, I don't know about other sports. UL got a show cause on the Clint Hurtt deal and then basically gave the NCAA the finger by keeping him.

https://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/ncaa-probation-and-division-i-college-basketball/
 
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I think that you are right. Jurrich was hired in 1997 when the birds were already on one probation. Shortly there after, they got another. Of course this is only basketball, I don't know about other sports. UL got a show cause on the Clint Hurtt deal and then basically gave the NCAA the finger by keeping him.

https://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/ncaa-probation-and-division-i-college-basketball/
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how many schools would keep an AD that has gotten you into NCAA trouble at least twice, and has made some very questionable hires
 
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No way. The tards already think they are getting a raw deal with the ban. Should a total clean out happen, in protest they will burn the west end to the ground..They want to win and could care less how it happens.
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Sometimes it's not about sports programs but how the new president feels about the university and the affect the issues have had on the school. A new president may want to come in and start fresh in an attempt to show that academics outweighs sports issues espically the nature of the issues they are dealing with.
 
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how many schools would keep an AD that has gotten you into NCAA trouble at least twice, and has made some very questionable hires
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This is the first big NCAA scandal for Jurrich. They received probation in 1998 (Jurrich's first full year on the job) because Scooter McCray paid for a recruit's hotel room. They only got the penalty because they had just been on probation (see link). As for questionable hires, Kragthorpe is the only hire that UL fans think was a mistake. Funny that he is the one that didn't have a sex scandal or embarrass the school in another way (taking another job on live TV at a bowl game).

UL fans think the guy is hung the moon. They don't mind the 2nd changes he gives to thugs, the sleazy coaches the he employs or the hammerlock that he puts on the local media. Tom is a win at any cost guy and their fans are fine with that. I would love to see the Minardi Hall squirt queens drown him along with Pitino and Ramsey.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1998/09/23/spt_lville22.html
 
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