I know I am a sunshine pumper. I am sitting here like we are 5-1 and ranked in top 20 in the country in football. Stupid me...Wilson is Smitty 2.0 passing wisepump it up JC
Fact UK is Winning is Mircaulous Given QB Play
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Stoops has Wilson in there because he coaches like Jerry Claiborne. If he does not change things up he will blow this season and the next one will be back to .500
PS Wilson is no Ramsey
PS Wilson is no Ramsey
I don’t think many folks are arguing the fact that Wilson has done some good things — especially in the Florida game. But a blind man can see that he has struggled as well. Saturday night, he was just downright terrible. He kept us behind the chains all night long. It’s hard to make a defense for why Hoak shouldn’t have gotten an opportunity.
An overtime loss on the road to the team all said was the second or third toughest we would face on the season, and we fear blowing the season, or next season?
We are 5-1 and ranked in the Top 20, so WTF is Going On?
Many, me included, are starting to think 1977 may be a dweller of locales under bridges.
I know that TW didn’t play well Saturday. He was terrified and it showed. He didn’t make reads he should be capable of; he didn’t use his feet when he should have; he slid early and missed a couple of critical first down opppoerinities; he just flat out didn’t get it done. He was scared and impacted greatly by that early hit he took, and the speed of the safety lurking around out there.
But, we could have, and should have won the game. Play calling did us in, not TW. Gran just vomited his dinner on the side line Saturday. And that play call, after a time out, with a 3rd and 2 - taking the ball out of Benny’s hands? WTF? We had to get that first down. 3rd and 2, on the road, in front of 100K. He should have let Benny run it twice and at least lost the game with our best option with the ball. No way in hell he should have let TW try to do that. Did Stoops call that play? I don’t know, but it was just dumb.
But, we could have, and should have won the game. Play calling did us in, not TW. Gran just vomited his dinner on the side line Saturday. And that play call, after a time out, with a 3rd and 2 - taking the ball out of Benny’s hands? WTF? We had to get that first down. 3rd and 2, on the road, in front of 100K. He should have let Benny run it twice and at least lost the game with our best option with the ball. No way in hell he should have let TW try to do that. Did Stoops call that play? I don’t know, but it was just dumb.
Hoak is made out to be a dink and dunker but if we want to bring up his 57% you also have to add that he averages 10 yards per attempt and 15 per completion, Wilson is at 6 and 9. Hoak has been pushing the ball down field on his limited pass plays, whereas Wilson dink’s and dunks.
Hoak has 2 TD passes in 4 series of play and Wilson has 3 in 6 games of play.
Hoak has about 15% of our total passing yards on the season. Another 11% of our passing yards came off 2 plays - the sweep to Bowden vs A&M and the reverse to Hughes vs Murray.
Snell and Hoak combine to match TD passes thrown by Wilson.
Not sure I have seen calls for a complete benching - but it may be nice to change up a few series a game or so.
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Would bet Hoak and Clark can make the 54 yard throw. They, along with Wilson warm up in pregame throwing 35-40 yarders flat footed.
Wilson doesn’t keep the ball or read on the read options. Teams aren’t having to hang out on him because he always has a predetermined read.
I agree he is the only one who could have had that performance vs UF and only one to lead us to a win. Not so sure the other QBs couldn’t have matched performances in the rest of the games or even bested his performances (especially vs MSU and AM). We are at a point we should have some series with the backup QB(s).
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Wilson is taking too long to make decisions both at the line and when the ball is snapped.He is having a difficult time catching up to the speed of the game.He got his bell rung a couple of times and was ducking contact from that point on(he was looking for #6 more than anyone else)
A pretty big stage down there and a lot on the line ,tough night,we will see where he goes from here
A pretty big stage down there and a lot on the line ,tough night,we will see where he goes from here
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I’m not mad at all. I’m upset with play calling and our field goal kicker. But not mad. I think this team is still going to do something special
Clark does have the arm to hit a deep shot...I've seen Hoak enough with my own eyes...he couldn't have hit that Florida TD to Bowden. He would have had to float it very high which the Florida DB would have had enough time to get back on it. Almost every time Hoak throws a pass deeper than 20 yards the WR have to wait on it...hardly ever hits them in full stride.
I do agree Wilson isn't keep near enough on read options...he needs to get some of his runs on those plays and less of the designed runs for him IMO.
I'm eager to see how much our coaches can evolve Terry Wilson the last 6 games. Stephen Johnson's first year he sort of hit a way better passing feel down the stretch of his first year. I'm hoping Wilson can evolve a bit as well.
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I have all the sympathy in the world for mature UK fans who have stuck by our team and are disappointed that we came close but lost in OT. But I am amused by people who have tried as hard as they could to tear down our team and our coaches and now complain self riteously because we are 5-1 with a ranking in the polls. Grow up.
You'd have to watch again - they can all hit that pass distance wise except for Walker Wood.
Hoak has better passing numbers in YPA and YPC so while his passing style may be more Dusty Bonner/Phillip Rivers he has shown in limited action to be more successful pushing the ball down the field, contrary to many arm strength debates.
TW is 25th in completion percentage in FBS.
TW is 105th in YPA in FBS.
Pass plays are either ultra safe short or on the sideline long. Not much else.
If they continue to run plays send 4 receivers into patterns where they go 10+ yards before they turn around any QB will struggle.
TW is 105th in YPA in FBS.
Pass plays are either ultra safe short or on the sideline long. Not much else.
If they continue to run plays send 4 receivers into patterns where they go 10+ yards before they turn around any QB will struggle.
He was wobbling 30 yard post patterns in spring game...he can't throw a rocket over the top of a Florida zone defense covering 50 of the 54 yards w/o Bowden breaking stride. We can argue it all day long...Gunnar simply has no hose for that kind of play. That alone doesn't dictate he can't be effective passing on college....but there were 2-3 big plays from Terry Wilson in Florida game that Hoak simply wouldn't have made no matter what.
LOL - I said I think Wilson is our only QB that could put on that performance and beat Florida.
But Yeah, I believe Hoak can throw it 50 yards in air...he and Wilson throw back and forth to each other (team managers) from 35-40 yards pre game flat footed. Walker Wood struggles with the 35 yard...Danny Clark just flicks it with ease.
Now if you extend the distance, Wilson does have a stronger arm...I also have no argument about that.
