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Elgin Cook says Murray is a duck

This reminds me of that one mega-jerk from every HS that asks a cute girl to the prom and when she turns him down he tells everyone that she's a lesbian. Way messed up, Dude!

Reminds me of the chick that flirts with you hoping you will ask them to prom just to tell her friends you asked her out, when all along she was planning on going with the guy she has been talking to all year. You have to admire her loyalty, but it sucks to be led on like that.
 
If Murray does pick Oregon, then good luck to him. I guess he wants to play basketball in obscurity because that is what will happen. He will occasionally show up on ESPN2 or ESPNU at 11:00et on Thursday night.

At UK he will be seen nationwide in primetime every single week. He will have announcers like Vitale and Bilas fawning over him. At Oregon he gets a drug hazed Bill Walton rambling on about everything but the game about once a month.
 
If Murray does pick Oregon, then good luck to him. I guess he wants to play basketball in obscurity because that is what will happen. He will occasionally show up on ESPN2 or ESPNU at 11:00et on Thursday night.

At UK he will be seen nationwide in primetime every single week. He will have announcers like Vitale and Bilas fawning over him. At Oregon he gets a drug hazed Bill Walton rambling on about everything but the game about once a month.

I'm pretty sure the kid knows all of this information. No point to keep posting it 3 or 4 times a day. If a kid knows all this and still picks OU, what can you do? You move on and stop worrying about it. Most of these kids are so confident in their talent they think nothing can hold them back from being the best player in the country. If a kid didn't have that confidence, you wouldn't want him suiting up for the wildcats.
 
Reminds me of the chick that flirts with you hoping you will ask them to prom just to tell her friends you asked her out, when all along she was planning on going with the guy she has been talking to all year. You have to admire her loyalty, but it sucks to be led on like that.

This is way off base. You knew going in that she was interested in other dudes. And in this case none of us know if anyone was "led on" cause we don't get any behind-the-scenes details on what was told to either party.
 
This is way off base. You knew going in that she was interested in other dudes. And in this case none of us know if anyone was "led on" cause we don't get any behind-the-scenes details on what was told to either party.

Still hurts when a chick (or dude) flirts with you and then goes out with another guy (or gal), even if she (he) is up front and honest with you that there is another guy (or gal) involved.

I didn't want to sound sexist, guys can do the same thing to girls.

Same thing with a recruit, IMHO.

You get an interview, you go in and they smile and tell you how wonderful you are, then call you the next day and tell you that you were the second choice. It was fair and they were interested, but it still hurts.

I'm not saying it's unfair or the kid is a monster. I'm just saying it doesn't feel good to be rejected or to have the program you support get rejected.

This is how I feel. But it's part of it.
 
If he goes to Oregon I'll be disappointed because he looks like a reckless/fearless, talented player. I expect I'll grieve over it on long winter nights while I'm pining for the fjords. I'll pin a daguerreotype of Murray to the kitchen wall and pause before it like a Mother remembering her youngest child -- Our Danny! -- lost in recruiting battle a season ago. Her cheeks creased with care, her knuckles raw from scrubbing floors for the laird, a stray hair, almost white now, loosed from the bun she combs out each night. She sings somberly to herself the Ave Maria. What could have been. Ah. What could have been. A single violin plays softly. The credits roll and in the lower third a reminder that Wheetabix eaten before bed time helps you to wake regular each morning. Fin.


Fixed it for you.
 
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How fast the doom and gloom can go away with one sentence. I am going to Kentucky. lol
 
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Glad his announcement got spoiled for him. Sour grapes, blue goggles, whatever, that's all probably true, but after about the 50th player this spring to put us in the top 2-3 only to spurn us come announcement time, I'm sick of it, right now I want all of their announcements to be ruined well ahead of time if they're not coming here and only going to use us to hype their stock (at least before their sad realities set in next season). Not saying it's right to feel that way, that's just how I feel.

Needless to say I have no intentions of watching his ESPNU special. Murray had the red carpet rolled out for him and was offered prime rib but he'd rather have a crap sandwich. Eat up, kid, hope you love it.


Open mouth....insert foot
 
Glad his announcement got spoiled for him. Sour grapes, blue goggles, whatever, that's all probably true, but after about the 50th player this spring to put us in the top 2-3 only to spurn us come announcement time, I'm sick of it, right now I want all of their announcements to be ruined well ahead of time if they're not coming here and only going to use us to hype their stock (at least before their sad realities set in next season). Not saying it's right to feel that way, that's just how I feel.

Needless to say I have no intentions of watching his ESPNU special. Murray had the red carpet rolled out for him and was offered prime rib but he'd rather have a crap sandwich. Eat up, kid, hope you love it.


Maybe you should actually wait until the recruits announces their decision before you throw your temper tantrum. This post is really not a good look on you right now, along with the ones who "liked" this post in wentzal and bookerfan. You really stuck your foot in your mouth on this. I hope you can man up and acknowledge it. We shall see, I guess.
 
Maybe you should actually wait until the recruits announces their decision before you throw your temper tantrum. This post is really not a good look on you right now, along with the ones who "liked" this post in wentzal and bookerfan. You really stuck your foot in your mouth on this. I hope you can man up and acknowledge it. We shall see, I guess.

I always "man up" and apologize when I'm wrong and already did so in the eating crow thread. Look it up and see for yourself.

There's no excuse other than the build up of negativity following the loss of a championship and perfect season, followed by multiple OAD players making, in my opinion, really dumb decisions because of one stupid connection or the other and it just finally got to me on this one and that's where I was coming at it from. I knew Oregon was a dumb decision because they don't even come close to offering what UK does if you're someone that is serious about becoming a basketball star. I didn't want to listen to any argument to the contrary regardless of whether we had zero point guards or 50. When the Oregon player "spilled the beans"-- or so I thought-- on twitter it just felt like one final gut punch and it totally fit the M.O. of the way things have been going for us, especially considering that there were twitter clues that indicated Diallo to Kansas before it happened that none of us wanted to believe. I knew if we struck out this time it was going to hurt more than the others because he was our last resort and to me he was always the missing piece for what could really be a dynamic starting line-up.

I was obviously very wrong in my comments and I apologize to Jamal Murray. It should also be noted that I was also one of the few that was advocating for us to change it up a bit, get Murray, and start 3 guards even when Brown was still a possibility while some solid posters that I usually agree with didn't think Murray would ever pick UK because there was just no way he'd agree to play alongside 2 other point guards. My thought was, as good as we've been under Cal, we needed to get more dynamic on offense and with our spacing, opening up the floor with more shooters and skilled basketball players, not just big athletes. That is the exact transformation that the NBA is undergoing right now, and it's where the college game will soon be headed as well. Positionless basketball with multiple skilled ball handlers and shooters on the court at the same time.

I was frustrated and just really fed up with this class, but I put it out there and now I've gotta eat it, and that's fine with me. I never have and never will run and hide.
 
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He might have just jumped to conclusions after Murray had a good second visit.I doubt it was malicious.
 
I always "man up" and apologize when I'm wrong and already did so in the eating crow thread. Look it up and see for yourself.

There's no excuse other than the build up of negativity following the loss of a championship and perfect season, followed by multiple OAD players making, in my opinion, really dumb decisions because of one stupid connection or the other and it just finally got to me on this one and that's where I was coming at it from. I knew Oregon was a dumb decision because they don't even come close to offering what UK does if you're someone that is serious about becoming a basketball star. I didn't want to listen to any argument to the contrary regardless of whether we had zero point guards or 50. When the Oregon player "spilled the beans"-- or so I thought-- on twitter it just felt like one final gut punch and it totally fit the M.O. of the way things have been going for us, especially considering that there were twitter clues that indicated Diallo to Kansas before it happened that none of us wanted to believe. I knew if we struck out this time it was going to hurt more than the others because he was our last resort and to me he was always the missing piece for what could really be a dynamic starting line-up.

I was obviously very wrong in my comments and I apologize to Jamal Murray. It should also be noted that I was also one of the few that was advocating for us to change it up a bit, get Murray, and start 3 guards even when Brown was still a possibility while some solid posters that I usually agree with didn't think Murray would ever pick UK because there was just no way he'd agree to play alongside 2 other point guards. My thought was, as good as we've been under Cal, we needed to get more dynamic on offense and with our spacing, opening up the floor with more shooters and skilled basketball players, not just big athletes. That is the exact transformation that the NBA is undergoing right now, and it's where the college game will soon be headed as well. Positionless basketball with multiple skilled ball handlers and shooters on the court at the same time.

I was frustrated and just really fed up with this class, but I put it out there and now I've gotta eat it, and that's fine with me. I never have and never will run and hide.[/QUOTE/]

My dad always said that it says a lot about a man who will stand up and admit when he was wrong. I give you credit, you did just that. There are not a lot of posters on here that would have written that post. I respect you for it and all is good. Classy thing to do!
I agree with you 100% that Murray was the missing piece. I have thought that for some time now. I was back and forth on where I thought he would go. Kersey said UK and I was stoked as he is pretty reliable but then z71 (or z something) said it was for sure Oregon and everyone said he was definitely in the know. Matt Jones hadn't heard anything and he almost always does if there is any info out there. In the end, I don't really think anyone knew for sure but I just kept thinking about the fact that Murray was following UK players on twitter but not any Oregon players. That's what kept my hopes alive and boy did it pay off!!! Man!!!! We got the piece to the puzzle that we needed and I think we fit the mold of a great tournament type team with an amazing backcourt players. Not to mention Skal and Alex tearing up the post and allowing Alex to now play mostly at the PF spot where I know he will thrive.
Class act and kudos for manning up and admitting a mistake. Like I said, that is very rare around here and its good to see.


Man, I'm so damn excited about this team!!!
 
I always "man up" and apologize when I'm wrong and already did so in the eating crow thread. Look it up and see for yourself.

There's no excuse other than the build up of negativity following the loss of a championship and perfect season, followed by multiple OAD players making, in my opinion, really dumb decisions because of one stupid connection or the other and it just finally got to me on this one and that's where I was coming at it from. I knew Oregon was a dumb decision because they don't even come close to offering what UK does if you're someone that is serious about becoming a basketball star. I didn't want to listen to any argument to the contrary regardless of whether we had zero point guards or 50. When the Oregon player "spilled the beans"-- or so I thought-- on twitter it just felt like one final gut punch and it totally fit the M.O. of the way things have been going for us, especially considering that there were twitter clues that indicated Diallo to Kansas before it happened that none of us wanted to believe. I knew if we struck out this time it was going to hurt more than the others because he was our last resort and to me he was always the missing piece for what could really be a dynamic starting line-up.

I was obviously very wrong in my comments and I apologize to Jamal Murray. It should also be noted that I was also one of the few that was advocating for us to change it up a bit, get Murray, and start 3 guards even when Brown was still a possibility while some solid posters that I usually agree with didn't think Murray would ever pick UK because there was just no way he'd agree to play alongside 2 other point guards. My thought was, as good as we've been under Cal, we needed to get more dynamic on offense and with our spacing, opening up the floor with more shooters and skilled basketball players, not just big athletes. That is the exact transformation that the NBA is undergoing right now, and it's where the college game will soon be headed as well. Positionless basketball with multiple skilled ball handlers and shooters on the court at the same time.

I was frustrated and just really fed up with this class, but I put it out there and now I've gotta eat it, and that's fine with me. I never have and never will run and hide.


My dad always said that it says a lot about a man who will stand up and admit when he was wrong. I give you credit, you did just that. There are not a lot of posters on here that would have written that post. I respect you for it and all is good. Classy thing to do!
I agree with you 100% that Murray was the missing piece. I have thought that for some time now. I was back and forth on where I thought he would go. Kersey said UK and I was stoked as he is pretty reliable but then z71 (or z something) said it was for sure Oregon and everyone said he was definitely in the know. Matt Jones hadn't heard anything and he almost always does if there is any info out there. In the end, I don't really think anyone knew for sure but I just kept thinking about the fact that Murray was following UK players on twitter but not any Oregon players. That's what kept my hopes alive and boy did it pay off!!! Man!!!! We got the piece to the puzzle that we needed and I think we fit the mold of a great tournament type team with an amazing backcourt players. Not to mention Skal and Alex tearing up the post and allowing Alex to now play mostly at the PF spot where I know he will thrive.
Class act and kudos for manning up and admitting a mistake. Like I said, that is very rare around here and its good to see.


Man, I'm so damn excited about this team!!!
 
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