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Early predictions - how many players leave for the draft?

Feb 16, 2014
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Gone. Skal, Murray, Brisco, Ulis, Matthews, Poythress, Lee. In that order.

^ This post got me thinking and i figured " Why not make a thread about it". Its early but whatever. Just something to talk about.


MY ANSWER/ORDER :

1. Skal.

2. Murray.

3 Poythress


Briscoe being off this list may surprise some but i don't view him as a OAD prospect.

Poythress will be fighting to stay on draft boards all season. I have semi-high hopes for his upcoming yr, but at his age with his positional/skill concerns, going undrafted is realistic.
 
Skal Murray Pouthrese Briscoe. Ulis would have to show more shooting touch. Lee doesn't have the IQ or offensive game. Matthews doesn't strike me as a OAD guy.
 
Skal - 95%
Poythress - 90%
Murray - 85%
Briscoe - 70%
Lee - 50%
Ulis - 40%
Matthews - 20%
Mulder - 20%
 
^ This post got me thinking and i figured " Why not make a thread about it". Its early but whatever. Just something to talk about.


MY ANSWER/ORDER :

1. Skal.

2. Murray.

3 Poythress


Briscoe being off this list may surprise some but i don't view him as a OAD prospect.

Poythress will be fighting to stay on draft boards all season. I have semi-high hopes for his upcoming yr, but at his age with his positional/skill concerns, going undrafted is realistic.


Much to early to pick.
 
What's crazy is Ulis is a fan favorite even for rival fans. Everybody loves the little guy or underdog . By mid season there will probably be many threads on here who should start as PG. Ulis, briscoe, or Murray. Cal has already started damage control, " positionless player". Murray is starting to turn out as a phenom, Ulis is proven even over a PG that has 8 inches on him and two final fours, and briscoe was the #1 pg in the class. They all will have success ...Kentucky .Calipari effect..
 
Labissiere- gone
Murray- gone
Briscoe- gone
Poythress- gone

Lee- might come back
Ulis- might come back

The rest will be back.

If Lee shows significant improvement in his offensive game, he will probably leave.

Ulis probably needs to stay another year and get his degree. It's tough for someone his size to stick in the NBA. He would be smart to have a backup plan.
 
Skal - 100% top pick
Poythress - 100% late 1st,,,, maybe 2nd
Murray - 100% lotto
Briscoe - 80% 2nd round
Lee - 70% 2nd round
Ulis - 10%
Matthews - 10%
Mulder - 5%
 
Too early for me to pick will have to see them all play together, we know what we got with Ulis, Poythress, Lee, Willis and Hawkins, of course Poythress is a Senior he's gone regardless:popcorn:
 
Well, we haven't really seen Alex fulltime at the 4 spot, so it's really hard to say where he will go. I feel he'll be an early second rounder, but he's an elite athlete. If he can prove he can finish and continue to develop as a defender, he might have a shot at the first round.

That said, I think he's gone regardless because he'll be playing a role that will almost guarantee him enough production to make a run a the league.

I agree with the OP. I think Briscoe is closer to Teague and Harrison in terms of ability than he is Wall and Knight. He might be back, although I hope he's good enough to make the leap.
 
LaBassiere is a top three pick and will go pretty much no matter what. You just can't teach size and shot-blocking plus athleticism to move feet, and shot. He'll show very well at individuals if it comes to that because of his shot. Already getting bigger a great sign-- he'll be KAT's size or nearly there before he leaves. Few weaknesses in his game.

Murray has shown enough to be a lottery pick just in the Pan-Am Games. He's tall enough to play combo and look athletic enough to stick with European/ Brazilian pros already. TO game a worry, but that may be because of his inexperience in the Canadian "system." Even if he struggles at UK, it'll be laid at the hands of "fit", not a talent deficiency-- three PGs will soothe a lot of worries, as will individual workout. If he can shoot at a 40% 3-point clip, he's a top five selection.

At this point, it depends on play.

Briscoe, should he play fairly well, would likely be the next Cat off the table, somewhere from late lottery to mid-20's. To earn a lottery selection, he'll have to score in double figures with adequate shooting from deep (37% or so), finish well at the hoop (through contact at a 50% level), all with a nearly 2:1 A:TO ratio. If he takes over late in games as a go-to scorer, that'll earn him a couple of spots as well. Briscoe's measureables help, as he has the wing span of a Taurus.

Poythress is an interesting player. The emergence of Draymond Green and, to a lesser extent, Kawhi Leonard, will help his stock. Assuming his athleticism is hampered by injury, he's elite in that regard. He can shut down wings and has enough strength to defend PF too. That in itself will get him drafted. If he can shoot at a 50% clip inside and take enough wide open threes to show he's got that range, NBA scouts can wish enough to make him a late first-rounder. If he cans 40%+ of his threes, he'll go early 20s. If he shoots 100 of them and cans 40%, he'll go in the lottery. Needs to finish at the rim.

Lee's measureables are phenomenal. He'll need to show a capable outside shot up to 15 feet and enough dribble to get to the rim. Two dribbles without knocking it off his own knee will be key. That, his rebounding, and elite athleticism could get him drafted at the end of the first round. More likely, he'll go somewhere in the middle of the second. (If he goes at all. From all reports, Lee loves school and the UK experience.)

So, short answer long, four, maybe five Cats gone early.
 
As some others have said, way too soon to make picks like this. We haven't even seen many of these guys play yet and don't know how improved someone like Lee could be or how well Poythress comes back from his injury. Lots of unknown factors out there to make predictions now. Of course we know of some who we feel pretty sure will be gone (Skal, Murray) but beyond that I'm wiling to wait and see a little longer.
 
Skal - 100%
Poythress - 100%
Murray - 100%
Briscoe - 90%
Lee - 50% 2nd round (i think it depends on if he has his degree or is close enough to get it in the summer)
Ulis - 50%
Matthews - 5% (2 year player)
Mulder - 30%
 
Skal - 95%
Poythress - 90%
Murray - 85%
Briscoe - 70%
Lee - 50%
Ulis - 40%
Matthews - 20%
Mulder - 20%

I agree that as a % (liklihood) is the best way to address this question.
My estimates:
Skal 95%
Poythress 90%
Murray 80%
Briscoe 75%
Ulis 35%
Lee 30%
Matthews 10%
Mulder 5%
 
Gone - Skal, Murray, Briscoe, Poythress
Back - Ulis, Mulder, Matthews, Lee

I feel like this will be our 8 man rotation for the upcoming season. Not only should this be a good year for us, but a lot of experience coming back for the next year too.
 
Some of yall are underestimating the hell out of Briscoe. He'll be a 1st rounder no doubt if he leaves. Top 15-20 pick easily. So this is who I think leaves. Skal - Murray - Briscoe - Poythress in this order. I think Ulis will be the best PG in the country but I think he'll come back. Then Lee, Mulder, and Mathews will come back.
 
Skal 99%
Murray 95%
Poythress 95%
Brisco 70%
Ulis 50%
Lee 50%
Matthews 0%
Mulder 10%
 
Poythress is 100%, and Skal is probably 90%. Ulis is a 4 year player. Not enough info on others, though I would also list Briscoe as likely.
 
You guys not saying Poythress is 100% to leave know he's a senior right?

They probably think if he has an off season, he'll try to get a medical redshirt or however the process goes. I think he;s gone regardless unless an injury happens again but whatever.
 
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