Duke's crooked Program, and ncaa violations, the double standard

[howercat]

With all the Dook love, we mustn't forget just how crooked Coach K's program has been, and how crooked the ncaa was at looking the other way.

10 reasons why Duke is hated: They are not as clean as you think (No. 4)

Is Duke really as "clean" a program as it is made out to be?

www.syracuse.com

While Duke has not had a lot of off-the-court scandal looming around the program, there have been some incidents that have raised an eyebrow or two.



Former Duke player Corey Maggette admitted taking cash from a booster Despite fears they would have to give back over $200,000 in NCAA Tournament revenue and stripped of their Final Four appearance in 2000, Duke was never punished by the NCAA after an investigation determined Duke coaches were unaware of the payments.--> any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

A 2003 New Orleans Times-Picayune investigation (article not available online) revealed that former Duke guard Chris Duhon's mother “landed a job working for a Duke booster; co-workers say the job opening was never posted and that Harper was overpaid and lacked qualifications.”-->
any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation


In 2010, former Duke player Lance Thomas was sued for failing to repay an alleged $67,800 credit to a jeweler. The NCAA did not find any violations after an investigation -->. any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

Zion was given a house.

List the rest here.

 

[GuyFromKY]

The whole Banchero DUI situation

 

[Smashcat]

Remains to be seen if they will remain a NCAA darling with K out. I assume they will.

 

[K_TIME]

And I'd add promoting a Jon Sheyer as a short time assistant over Tommy Amaker and his decade of head coaching is absurd...add the black/white racist focus lately to not even blink an eye is almost as bad as the other stuff.

 

[bthaunert]

And I'd add promoting a Jon Sheyer as a short time assistant over Tommy Amaker and his decade of head coaching is absurd...add the black/white racist focus lately to not even blink an eye is almost as bad as the other stuff.

I don't think it's that absurd. Amaker hasn't made it to the NCAA Tournament at Harvard since 2015. They went13-13 this year. When he did coach at big programs (Seton Hall and Michigan), he made the NCAA once in 10 years. Sheyer has been an assistant on K's staff since 2014 and his top assistant since 2018.

K is an a-hole, but the Sheyer thing is reaching imo.

 

[Cawood86]

Never, ever thought dook was clean.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Carlos Boozer's family moving from Alaska where his dad worked on the pipeline and all of the sudden got a nice cushy job set up.

USA Basketball set up for Duke recruiting as a payoff for Coach K "saving" the country in International Basketball.

 

[yoshukai]

With all the Dook love, we mustn't forget just how crooked Coach K's program has been, and how crooked the ncaa was at looking the other way.

10 reasons why Duke is hated: They are not as clean as you think (No. 4)

Is Duke really as "clean" a program as it is made out to be?

www.syracuse.com

While Duke has not had a lot of off-the-court scandal looming around the program, there have been some incidents that have raised an eyebrow or two.



Former Duke player Corey Maggette admitted taking cash from a booster Despite fears they would have to give back over $200,000 in NCAA Tournament revenue and stripped of their Final Four appearance in 2000, Duke was never punished by the NCAA after an investigation determined Duke coaches were unaware of the payments.--> any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

A 2003 New Orleans Times-Picayune investigation (article not available online) revealed that former Duke guard Chris Duhon's mother “landed a job working for a Duke booster; co-workers say the job opening was never posted and that Harper was overpaid and lacked qualifications.”-->
any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation


In 2010, former Duke player Lance Thomas was sued for failing to repay an alleged $67,800 credit to a jeweler. The NCAA did not find any violations after an investigation -->. any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

Zion was given a house.

List the rest here.

Duhons mother got a supervisor job at Glaxo Pharmaceutical. There were grievances filed by employees.

 

[K_TIME]

I don't think it's that absurd. Amaker hasn't made it to the NCAA Tournament at Harvard since 2015. They went13-13 this year. When he did coach at big programs (Seton Hall and Michigan), he made the NCAA once in 10 years. Sheyer has been an assistant on K's staff since 2014 and his top assistant since 2018.

K is an a-hole, but the Sheyer thing is reaching imo.

Amaker has won the regular season title at Harvard 7 of his 13 years in the Ivy league conference.

Harvard had not won 20 games in a season I think ever in their program history....under Amaker it's been done 7 times. Amaker went to NCAA 4 times in a row (never been done before him at Harvard). I'll grant you the Michigan and Seton Hall were not great...but he's done a ton of good stuff after those jobs at Harvard.

He's tons more qualified than Sheyer. Hell Quinn Snyder is eons more qualitfied.

 

[ACTSEAN]

Remains to be seen if they will remain a NCAA darling with K out. I assume they will.

I bet you K will try and hold on to some kind of power after this year. I really hope he does cause at some point that should get them into big time trouble. I know, they have cheated for years and haven't even seen a raised eyebrow but one could hope

 

[bthaunert]

Amaker has won the regular season title at Harvard 7 of his 13 years in the Ivy league conference.

Harvard had not won 20 games in a season I think ever in their program history....under Amaker it's been done 7 times. Amaker went to NCAA 4 times in a row (never been done before him at Harvard). I'll grant you the Michigan and Seton Hall were not great...but he's done a ton of good stuff after those jobs at Harvard.

He's tons more qualified than Sheyer. Hell Quinn Snyder is eons more qualitfied.

But what has he done for them lately? It's the same argument always made for Cal and Tubby. That's great, but, talk to me about the past so and so years. If this was 8 years ago and he was coming off 4 straight NCAA tournaments, I would totally agree, but he hasn't led them to the NCAA Tournament in the past 8 years (6 opportunities with COVID).

Of course he's more qualified if you're looking at head coaching experience as he has had 25 years as a head coach (only 5 of those years his teams went to the NCAA Tourney), but his lack of success in recent years doesn't make him that attractive.

I agree on Quinn Snyder, but a) he's found a great niche in the NBA and b) his transgressions at Mizzou don't help. For as much success that K has had as a head coach, he's put our some crappy assistants as head coaches if we are arguing over if Tommy Amaker is worthy of the job.

 

[rick64]

Somewhere down the road after K is 6ft under, more stuff will come out like it did for Wooden. And the NCAA still won't do squat.

 

[podgejeff_]

Somewhere down the road after K is 6ft under, more stuff will come out like it did for Wooden. And the NCAA still won't do squat.

NCAA might very well be dead by then too.

 

[Tubbyfan78]

Your all’s utter commitment to conspiracy theories leads me to believe there are no conspiracies.

 

[Bluegrass79]

It don't matter no more. Coach K is retired. I promise you duke will not be the same duke. And I thank God for that because a Blue Devil is a devil regardless of what color it is.
What we've been waiting on our whole lives is what's getting ready to happen. Duke my friends is going to fall off just like Uconn and Indiana and ucla. Schools that are products of their coach and once the coach is gone they will disappear!!
North Carolina reminded Duke in that final game that they had their little 30-year run but now it's over. It's time for the real basketball schools to take back over and I'm glad North Carolina reminded them of that. Duke thinks are going to win anything with Jon scheyer they've lost their damn mind

my friends we will no longer pay Duke any mind. They are of no significance to me and you and they no longer pose a threat. And that's the facts sir!!

ITS OVER. SCHEYER WILL KILL THEM OFF

 

[yoshukai]

NCAA might very well be dead by then too.

Yeah , I’m thinking K will outlive the ncaa. Heck , they’re already on life support.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Carlos Boozer's family moving from Alaska where his dad worked on the pipeline and all of the sudden got a nice cushy job set up.

USA Basketball set up for Duke recruiting as a payoff for Coach K "saving" the country in International Basketball.

I hate Duke
I hate K
I hate every player ever there
I hate K’s wife
I hate Duke students
I hate their mascot
I hate New Jersey
I hate cheer sheets
I hate Shitshefskyville
I hate Durham
I hate K’s stripper grandkid
I hate Cheateron Indoor

 

[docholiday51]

And I'd add promoting a Jon Sheyer as a short time assistant over Tommy Amaker and his decade of head coaching is absurd...add the black/white racist focus lately to not even blink an eye is almost as bad as the other stuff.

So much to dislike about Duke, it was great to see them lose the last game. They may well win the ACCT but when the go out of the NCAAT it will be another great day.

The coaching choice may well come back to haunt Duke in more ways than one.
If they had won that game in 1966 I wonder if history would have been written differently.

 

[Roe07]

They've always played a cheap, dirty brand of basketball. A bunch of totally unlikable players who flop and whine and trip, kick, slap, and do whatever else they feel necessary to help them win.

 

[jwphelps]

With all the Dook love, we mustn't forget just how crooked Coach K's program has been, and how crooked the ncaa was at looking the other way.

10 reasons why Duke is hated: They are not as clean as you think (No. 4)

Is Duke really as "clean" a program as it is made out to be?

www.syracuse.com

While Duke has not had a lot of off-the-court scandal looming around the program, there have been some incidents that have raised an eyebrow or two.



Former Duke player Corey Maggette admitted taking cash from a booster Despite fears they would have to give back over $200,000 in NCAA Tournament revenue and stripped of their Final Four appearance in 2000, Duke was never punished by the NCAA after an investigation determined Duke coaches were unaware of the payments.--> any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

A 2003 New Orleans Times-Picayune investigation (article not available online) revealed that former Duke guard Chris Duhon's mother “landed a job working for a Duke booster; co-workers say the job opening was never posted and that Harper was overpaid and lacked qualifications.”-->
any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation


In 2010, former Duke player Lance Thomas was sued for failing to repay an alleged $67,800 credit to a jeweler. The NCAA did not find any violations after an investigation -->. any other program would be stripped of wins for ineligible player, probation

Zion was given a house.

List the rest here.

Well the good part is Coach K is gone after this year,

 

[turkeywildturkey]

I never forgot. It’s a double standard. K cheats, but the NCAA looks the other way even when there’s direct evidence of his cheating. The guys a crook. He’s classless, arrogant, and he’s a sore loser. Glad to see him go. I hope Duke loses in the 1st round.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

I have to think he's still going to be very involved with the program.

 

[BlackRanger]

Remains to be seen if they will remain a NCAA darling with K out. I assume they will.

I believe the glamour will fade with Scheyer at the helm. Unless Lebron offers to assist.

 

[WallMashKyBall]

I had not heard this, what a Duke slurper the NCAA is...

In January of 1995, Mike Krzyzewski left the program due to back problems and exhaustion. Assistant Pete Gaudet took over the program and the season tanked. The Blue Devils went 4-15 under Gaudet, who was making $16,000 at the time as a "restricted earnings" coach, and missed the NCAA Tournament.

Krzyzewski was originally scheduled to return to the team after back surgery, but never returned to coach that season, leading to accusations he quit on what he knew was a bad team.

Duke petitioned the NCAA to have those losses stick on Gaudet's record, not Krzyzewski's.

Krzyzewski wasn't given the losses by the NCAA. Gaudet was handed the 4-15 record.

 

[billCgmx]

"Duke is a strong academic school that’s perennially celebrated for graduating its players, even when it doesn’t. But OTL shows Duke players, many of whom enter academically deficient, being steered toward cake and/or no-show courses of dubious value."

"OTL reports that since 1995, 40 percent of Duke’s basketball players have majored in sociology – “the basketball major” – compared to two percent among other Duke students."

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[billCgmx]

"Malone’s background didn’t suggest that one day almost every NCAA coach in the country -- from Mike Krzyzewski to Billy Donovan to Bob Huggins -- would take his calls."

"Three of 10 recruited scholarship players on the Duke roster in 2010–11 were from D.C. Assault. “I think everyone was shocked,” says Blue Devils coach Mike Krzyzewski of Malone’s drug-dealing career. “How would you know that? I feel bad for the family. He’s been a great father to Nolan.”"

"But some weren’t shocked. When he was coach at Maryland, Gary Williams refused to deal with Malone, telling his assistants that he wasn’t going to deal with a drug dealer. “I know what he is,” Williams, who declined to comment for this story, told The Washington Post in 2009."

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[Rideordiewildcat]

Dook sucks and that dirty little rat is a cheat and s hypocrite.

What about when he went after Oregon Brooks for beating the shot clock violation when they were beating dooks ass and knocking them out of the tourney. Rat denied it until he found out he was still miked up lol. That's the only story you need to know about this pos.

Besides being old and sucking ever since he started copying Cal I think another reason he is hanging it up is now money for college players is legal and dook will lose a huge advantage once it gets rolling. He announced his farewell tour hoping the NCAA will gift him a goodbye title. I believe in karma and think a Lehigh, Mercer type ending is coming.

 

[Creed Bratton]

And I'd add promoting a Jon Sheyer as a short time assistant over Tommy Amaker and his decade of head coaching is absurd...add the black/white racist focus lately to not even blink an eye is almost as bad as the other stuff.

Any other program would be accused of racism but not Duke.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I find the succession being portrayed as coming down to Scheyer and Amaker strange.

Was not Johnny Dawkins considered? His track record seems better than Amaker's to begin with. Perhaps Dawkins once looked at Rat sideways and was removed from consideration.

 

[jacobbleedsblue]

It would be funny if Harvard wins the Ivy League and somehow meets Duke early in the tournament and beats dat azz.

 

[TeoJ]

I don't think it's that absurd. Amaker hasn't made it to the NCAA Tournament at Harvard since 2015. They went13-13 this year. When he did coach at big programs (Seton Hall and Michigan), he made the NCAA once in 10 years. Sheyer has been an assistant on K's staff since 2014 and his top assistant since 2018.

K is an a-hole, but the Sheyer thing is reaching imo.

How many games has he won as a head coach or how many times has he reached the NCAA?

 

[bthaunert]

How many games has he won as a head coach or how many times has he reached the NCAA?

I’m just unsure what you all trying to get at. Tommy Amaker has proven that he can’t win at a major program between Seton Hall and Michigan. He hasn’t taken Harvard to the NCAA Tournament in 8 years. He’s reached the NCAA Tournament 5 times in 25 years as a head coach.

They decided to go with the guy that has been an assistant at Duke for the last 8 years, the last 4 as Associate Head Coach.

Honestly, I don’t think either is a good choice. But people are acting like they told James Naismith to take a hike because they were going to hire Joel Justus instead.

 

[billCgmx]

 

[howercat]

Now K is done, and was beaten by another crooked cheater program.