Duke goes down...

[kelzer]

We suck at zone, he’s already said he can’t teach it, every time we have played it we get a couple stops but it constantly breaks down. I agree it would be nice to have in the bag but I don’t see him devoting any time to teaching it. Even if we have to hire a zone specialist, it would help learning to attack it because we always have trouble attacking a zone on offense too.

I agree, it would be nice to have it, but here's the thing. You have to spend a lot of time practicing a zone for it to be effective. And time practicing the zone is time taken away from practicing man-to-man.

And the man-to-man Cal runs is complex. There's lots of switching, to the point that sometimes it actually looks like a match-up zone. And we've seen in early games times where the man-to-man broke down because one guy switched but not the other, and then you get somebody with a wide-open path to the basket. Happened with Grady against Duke.

If you want us to have two really mediocre defensive schemes, by all means spend time practicing a zone. I'd rather they continue to work on the man D so that it's working well by the time the SEC schedule starts.

Generally, the teams that rely on zone are overmatched in size and athleticism for most of the season, so they spend a lot of time on it.

 

[Patriot202]

Tell me this championship isn't wide open. It will come down to who is playing the best end of year and a good measure of luck.

There a good chance & can easily happen neither duke Gonzaga Purdue or Baylor win the title in March. You guys act like you never watched March madness. The title is usually always wide open imo

 

[Titpwhami2014]

Defeating Coach K in his last game would be glorious . In 1975 we had a chance to do that with UCLA's John Wooden but the refs were out in full force that night.

The team that beats Duke in the NCAA will have to battle both Duke and his refs. That is a fact of life.

This x 100. It will be a repeat of 2017 UNC If K gets to the Elite 8/Final 4 with this team. I know we all remember Higgins but there were suspect calls/non-calls in their subsequent wins vs Oregon and Gonzaga. Meeks was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted. Which is unfortunate because that dude was a bum. Probably playing in Eurasia now, I’m too lazy to look it up.

 

[kelzer]

Hell yeah! I took OSU in this one! I need to start betting these games. Would probably never win any picks once I did that, though. Did OSU go zone? That is THE recipe to beat them IMO.

No, they didn't go zone. Duke got up early, led by 13 at the half, and held the lead until 1 minute left in the game. In the 2nd half Ohio State chipped away at the lead and gained all the momentum. Being in front of the home crowd played a big role, I'm sure.

 

[KentuckyCat420]

DidDukeWin.com

 

[CatStucknWA]

On the last day of no nut November, the Buckeyes busted one...kudos

 

[HagginHall1999]

Let the record show that K will forever have lost his LAST, first true road game of his LAST season.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Time for a court nap.

 

[bluefaithful]

yeah but guys on here were telling us after the duke game there was no way to stop Keels, and that Banchero was just hitting crazy shots for no reason. So that cant be why OSU won....

Whatever people say on here, You should go BIZARRO WORLD and you will be right, you will have money in your pocket and most of all you will be happy.

 

[kybassfan]

There a good chance & can easily happen neither duke Gonzaga Purdue or Baylor win the title in March. You guys act like you never watched March madness. The title is usually always wide open imo

Generally you always need 7 to 9 teams in a list to be sure you have a winner. My post was directed at the pansies that were scared of Puke and the cheating rat bastard.

 

[WallMashKyBall]

Love that they had the number one less than a week.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Love that they had the number one less than a week.

How so?

They lost before and stayed number 1.

 

[TheOtherGreatOne]

I didn't think all the refs would bend over and kiss K's ass. Let's hope we get decent refs in the NCAAT. I personally would like to play Duke again and be the ones to take them out. To be the best, you have to beat the best, although it remains to be seen whether Duke will be the 1 or 2 team in the country in March.

When the ncaa's roll around, duke will get whatever their coach wants. I don't know how to spell his name, so I just call him their coach, and from the wat it is spelled, he doesn't even know how ti pronounce his own name.

 

[Gromcat]

Tell me this championship isn't wide open. It will come down to who is playing the best end of year and a good measure of luck.

And this is your caption obvious post of the day!

 

[STL_Cat]

I thought November games don't matter?

They matter.

Duke lost. That matters.

 

[Gromcat]

I thought November games don't matter?

They matter.

Duke lost. That matters.

UK loses early - doesn’t matter
UK loses in SEC play - doesn’t matter
UK loses in the tournament - takes luck, doesn’t matter.

It just doesn’t matter, the players are still gonna be rich and you’re jealous of Cow. He’s in the HOF!!

Duke loses early - BOOM SON!
Duke loses in SEC play - BOOM SON HAILS YEA!
Duke loses in tournament - HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!

 

[STL_Cat]

UK loses early - doesn’t matter
UK loses in SEC play - doesn’t matter
UK loses in the tournament - takes luck, doesn’t matter.

It just doesn’t matter, the players are still gonna be rich and you’re jealous of Cow. He’s in the HOF!!

Duke loses early - BOOM SON!
Duke loses in SEC play - BOOM SON HAILS YEA!
Duke loses in tournament - HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!

The mental gymnastics must be exhausting.

 

[kyrx]

Great! Couldn't happen to nicer guys....but don't we play OSU in a couple of weeks?

 

[kybassfan]

And this is your caption obvious post of the day!

I’d try to explain but you’d need a caption, captain. It’s clearly not obvious to you.

Pathetic.

 

[kybassfan]

UK loses early - doesn’t matter
UK loses in SEC play - doesn’t matter
UK loses in the tournament - takes luck, doesn’t matter.

It just doesn’t matter, the players are still gonna be rich and you’re jealous of Cow. He’s in the HOF!!

Duke loses early - BOOM SON!
Duke loses in SEC play - BOOM SON HAILS YEA!
Duke loses in tournament - HOW YA LIKE ME NOW!!!!

Did Duke, err, Puke change conferences? Try to avoid the cheap stuff before 12.

 

[silentsaregolden2.0]

Only saw the second half, IMO Duke lost this more than OSU won it. OSU missed a ton of FT and made so many bad turnovers. Duke got a big lead and started settling for jumpers. OSU left them open a LOT but Duke just wasn't hitting them. They make a couple of those and the result is different.

 

[arenk]

Defeating Coach K in his last game would be glorious . In 1975 we had a chance to do that with UCLA's John Wooden but the refs were out in full force that night.

The team that beats Duke in the NCAA will have to battle both Duke and his refs. That is a fact of life.

I agree with you about the 1975 final. The three ticky tac fouls on Robey in the first 6 or 7 minutes cost us the game. Phillips was too slow to guard Drollinger and he went wild for a guy that was just an average college player at best. A technical should have been called on Wooden for walking out to half court. On the other hand, Grevey had a mediocre shooting night (I think 13 for 30) and UK just didn't bring its A game. It was the perfect storm, but the refs did us no favors.

 

[bowfreak]

Duke's guards will do them in. They will mop up the floor in the ACC and probably lose in the sweet 16. Banchero is a stud, but their backcourt is suspect.

 

[JerseyCat84]

There a good chance & can easily happen neither duke Gonzaga Purdue or Baylor win the title in March. You guys act like you never watched March madness. The title is usually always wide open imo

The 1 or 2 seeds have won 28 titles since 1985. So no, it isn’t usually wide open.

 

[reggis1]

I agree, it would be nice to have it, but here's the thing. You have to spend a lot of time practicing a zone for it to be effective. And time practicing the zone is time taken away from practicing man-to-man.

And the man-to-man Cal runs is complex. There's lots of switching, to the point that sometimes it actually looks like a match-up zone. And we've seen in early games times where the man-to-man broke down because one guy switched but not the other, and then you get somebody with a wide-open path to the basket. Happened with Grady against Duke.

If you want us to have two really mediocre defensive schemes, by all means spend time practicing a zone. I'd rather they continue to work on the man D so that it's working well by the time the SEC schedule starts.

Generally, the teams that rely on zone are overmatched in size and athleticism for most of the season, so they spend a lot of time on it.

no there is time to teach both man to man and a zone and each one to be very effective. By never playing a zone it help's opponent by not having to spend time preparing to play against a zone and m-m. Also playing a zone will teach our players how to play against a zone

 

[Cleisthenes]

Duke's regional NCAA tournament games will be in Krzyzewski's driveway, officiated by close relatives, and against grossly overseeded West coast teams who have to fly in on the redeye for a 1 hour stay before the game at Motel 6.

 

[HICATFAN]

As I remember ESPN really didn't harbor on Duke loosing...🤣

AlohaCat

 

[CB3UK]

 

[Patriot202]

The 1 or 2 seeds have won 28 titles since 1985. So no, it isn’t usually wide open.

They were talking about 3-4 teams winning it. You just doubled it to 8 teams possibly winning it to give me a stat to prove you’re right.

 

[jameslee32]

Not as many apologist trolls as I might have guessed.

 

[kelzer]

no there is time to teach both man to man and a zone and each one to be very effective. By never playing a zone it help's opponent by not having to spend time preparing to play against a zone and m-m. Also playing a zone will teach our players how to play against a zone

I would agree with you *if* UK typically had guys stick around for several years. When a team keeps 70% of its previous year's players it's not as hard to get the new guys into the groove. But at UK this year, for example, 4 of the 5 starters are new to the team. All one has to do is watch the games we've played to see that the M2M still needs a lot of work. There are still a lot of breakdowns and mistakes each game that need to be reduced going forward. Trying to master a zone at the same time would be too much, IMHO.

 

[JerseyCat84]

They were talking about 3-4 teams winning it. You just doubled it to 8 teams possibly winning it to give me a stat to prove you’re right.

Nice try, but 8 out of 64 teams isn’t wide open.

 

[MakinMusic]

Osu winning isn’t much better than Duke winning but as someone else said, it prevents the 40-0 nonsense.

 

[somersetcat]

Purdue will choke at the worst time.

So will Cal and the cats, I’m afraid.

 

[Kentucky fan 1989]

Plus, if Purdue wins the Title, IU fans heads will explode.
And that would be glorious!

Their heads would be steaming if UK-Purdue was title game.

 

[Patriot202]

Nice try, but 8 out of 64 teams isn’t wide open.

Depends what you consider wide open. Half those 64 teams don’t stand a chance in hell look up that stat lol. Long story short if I really think 8 teams maybe a few more can win it I would call it wide open but whatever