Drake to perform at Big Blue Madness

[UKWildcats#8]

I just want up close photograph's and footage from UK fans during the performance.

Maybe UK can let some younger, cooler UK fans closer to the floor for that part of the night.

It would be funny to see some videos of some gangsta redneck g-pas getting into it though and hanging with grannie.

 

[letitrainuk]

Man, enough with this hip hop sh!t.

How about Motley Crue or Def Leppard?

BBM needs to rock, metal style.

And before anyone calls me racist for not liking hip hop, country music sucks too.

Haha..Man I'm a huge Crüe fan but no. That's not going to draw the attention of anyone we want to play for UK.
Just won't work sorry.

 

[dezyDeco]

This comes up a lot, especially when discussing Anthony Davis, but with regard to the eligibility...

how long does Drake have to wait before his name can be put up in the Rafters?

 

[BigKari]

Man, enough with this hip hop sh!t.

How about Motley Crue or Def Leppard?

BBM needs to rock, metal style.

And before anyone calls me racist for not liking hip hop, country music sucks too.

Lol so hip hop and country suck but def leppard and Mötley Crüe are good? Lol ok then. I've always had a theory that people who dislike hip hop/rap are just too slow in the brain to keep up with what is being said on the song. So they give up and they are like "that guys just saying words fast over a beat, anyone can do that."

Anyone can try, but very few people are actually good at it. Then you have the people who only listen to the radio and judge the state of hip hop based on the mainstream. Listening to mainstream radio is your first mistake, that is where the worst and most derivative music of all genres is played. Yes, there are horribly awful rap songs on the radio, which is a shame because people only see the surface of the genre, the bad parts. Whereas a fan of rap would be heavily into the mixtape and underground world of hip hop, which is where real and original music is found. If you hate hip hop you are either old, stupid, racist, or all of the above.

With all that being said, Drake is garbage. He is just too formulaic in my opinion, he knows exactly how to make a hit song and he knows what is vibing in the mainstream, so every song he makes or is on, blows up. He is very smart for doing that and his songs are very catchy, but to me is essentially the Taylor Swift of hip hop. It's just weird hearing the things he says come out of his mouth. He is just everything that rap isn't, he is a poser.

 

[coolcat9lives]

Lol so hip hop and country suck but def leppard and Mötley Crüe are good? Lol ok then. I've always had a theory that people who dislike hip hop/rap are just too slow in the brain to keep up with what is being said on the song. So they give up and they are like "that guys just saying words fast over a beat, anyone can do that."

Anyone can try, but very few people are actually good at it. Then you have the people who only listen to the radio and judge the state of hip hop based on the mainstream. Listening to mainstream radio is your first mistake, that is where the worst and most derivative music of all genres is played. Yes, there are horribly awful rap songs on the radio, which is a shame because people only see the surface of the genre, the bad parts. Whereas a fan of rap would be heavily into the mixtape and underground world of hip hop, which is where real and original music is found. If you hate hip hop you are either old, stupid, racist, or all of the above.

With all that being said, Drake is garbage. He is just too formulaic in my opinion, he knows exactly how to make a hit song and he knows what is vibing in the mainstream, so every song he makes or is on, blows up. He is very smart for doing that and his songs are very catchy, but to me is essentially the Taylor Swift of hip hop. It's just weird hearing the things he says come out of his mouth. He is just everything that rap isn't, he is a poser.

I like the points you made but I think its not likely to lead to spirited discussion on this forum lol. The old heads should check out Kendrick Lamar, Chance The Rapper and maybe some local Lexington MC's (who get radio play and national press btw) like Nemo Achida, Allen Poe, Devine Carama, REAL tha Poet, Sheisty Khrist and the Cunninglynguists. These guys are hip-hop, Drake is a rapper. There is a big difference.

 

[LineSkiCat]

What do the players and recruits want? Then that's what I want.

I don't give a shit if some 50-year old rocker wants to hear the tunes from his high school days. That's what your back yard is for.

If you're really dead-set against Rap/Hip-Hop, fine, get some current alt-rock/rock band that these 18-year olds will at least be familiar with.

 

[Kycatspaws]

Meh, while Drake wouldn't be first choice he is popular with the younger crowd. Let the recruits enjoy themselves and the fans can enjoy watching the team.

 

[LineSkiCat]

Bring this little treasure to the concert.

It'll totally fit in with the type of dated music some of you want to hear. Just make sure to bring some spare AA batteries.

 

[Robcatt24]

Lol so hip hop and country suck but def leppard and Mötley Crüe are good? Lol ok then. I've always had a theory that people who dislike hip hop/rap are just too slow in the brain to keep up with what is being said on the song. So they give up and they are like "that guys just saying words fast over a beat, anyone can do that."

Anyone can try, but very few people are actually good at it. Then you have the people who only listen to the radio and judge the state of hip hop based on the mainstream. Listening to mainstream radio is your first mistake, that is where the worst and most derivative music of all genres is played. Yes, there are horribly awful rap songs on the radio, which is a shame because people only see the surface of the genre, the bad parts. Whereas a fan of rap would be heavily into the mixtape and underground world of hip hop, which is where real and original music is found. If you hate hip hop you are either old, stupid, racist, or all of the above.

With all that being said, Drake is garbage. He is just too formulaic in my opinion, he knows exactly how to make a hit song and he knows what is vibing in the mainstream, so every song he makes or is on, blows up. He is very smart for doing that and his songs are very catchy, but to me is essentially the Taylor Swift of hip hop. It's just weird hearing the things he says come out of his mouth. He is just everything that rap isn't, he is a poser.

Hip hop isn't even music.

Not sure what it is, but music it ain't.

 

[Cat Ballou]

Robcatt - I'm assuming you're a child of the '80's considering your musical tastes. Just imagine it's your teenage years again, and you show up at Midnight Madness for a school that's recruiting you and find out the musical entertainment for the evening is Lawrence Welk & his Orchestra. You going to school there?

You're old. Deal with it.

 

[Poetax]

Man, enough with this hip hop sh!t.

How about Motley Crue or Def Leppard?

BBM needs to rock, metal style.

And before anyone calls me racist for not liking hip hop, country music sucks too.

The seventies and eighties are calling you man.

 

[Pope John Wall II]

Hip hop isn't even music.

Not sure what it is, but music it ain't.

 

[_Rooster]

P A R T Y in the barnyard.

 

[Federal Cat]

Because BBM is a recruiting tool and most 17 year old, urban males don't know Motley Crue or Def Leppard.

Right on man

 

[ORCAT]

C'mon, this guy would rock Rupp, has to be in consideration.

 

[Robcatt24]

Robcatt - I'm assuming you're a child of the '80's considering your musical tastes. Just imagine it's your teenage years again, and you show up at Midnight Madness for a school that's recruiting you and find out the musical entertainment for the evening is Lawrence Welk & his Orchestra. You going to school there?

You're old. Deal with it.

Brah, I'm 22 years old.

Have the latest Blackberry, I'm constantly hanging out on Myspace.

I'm the youth that hip hop is trying to reach, and I'm rejecting it.

 

[LetsHang#9]

What's worse than people who don't at least appreciate hip-hop are the ones who say everything mainstream is garbage. Like if everyone starts to like it then the "hipsters" don't. I like the underground stuff brah

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Brah, I'm 22 years old.

Have the latest Blackberry, I'm constantly hanging out on Myspace.

I'm the youth that hip hop is trying to reach, and I'm rejecting it.

Blackberry and MySpace? You've just proven to everyone that you can't leave the past in not only music, but everything in life.

If you really are 22 then damn, I Almost feel sorry for you.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

This is who should be the bbn performer.



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[Rhavicc]

C'mon, this guy would rock Rupp, has to be in consideration.

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You want to rick roll UK's recruits, the basketball team, and 24,000 other people? Epic rick roll, but cruel.

 

[Smashcat]

C'mon, this guy would rock Rupp, has to be in consideration.

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[miracle7s]

Blackberry and MySpace? You've just proven to everyone that you can't leave the past in not only music, but everything in life.

If you really are 22 then damn, I Almost feel sorry for you.

First off, get trolled harder... you can't. Secondly what is metal? Guy on page 1 says Crue and Def aren't metal and then links a thrash vid. If Zeppelin and Sabbath invented "metal" then Poison, Crue, Def, GN'R, White Snake, Tesla, etc... are all much closer to metal than what you linked. However it's all just some rando a-hole who created a word subjective opinion. Metallica, Megadeath, Maiden, thrash metal, the 80's hair bands were hair metal. It's like the argument everyone is trying to have on rap or hip hop or whatever you want to call it. Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, do the same music as Jay-Z, Drake, Kendrick, etc... It just so happens that in my opinion the Kweli's of the world spit the hot fire of Dylan more than Drake does. I wish with all my heart Blackstar could of done another album and while I love Hi-Tek, I just imagine Kweli and Mos getting ill on 15 tracks that were produced by Kanye, Dre, No ID. Would of been incredible. Lastly using Taylor Swift as put down is utterly ridiculous, she is one of the few females country, pop, whatever who writes her own tunes.

 

[lacocat]

Motley Crue and Def Leppard would have landed us Marshall Henderson for sure.

 

[Clive Gollings]

No GWAR no care

 

[_Rooster]

Drake Fine. If you want planetary . . .

 

[BlueRattie]

I'm thinking they're not going to get my bands to play at Rupp.

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[BlueRattie]

I've always had a theory that people who dislike hip hop/rap are just too slow in the brain to keep up with what is being said on the song. So they give up and they are like "that guys just saying words fast over a beat, anyone can do that. . .If you hate hip hop you are either old, stupid, racist, or all of the above."

I can't speak for anyone else, but there are all kinds of reasons I don't like rap or hip hop, and none of them have anything to do with my age, intelligence, or my feelings toward people with more or less melanin in their skin than me. I love music, all kinds of music. On a given day, you might catch me listening to Johnny Cash, Tool, Soundgarden, Pink Floyd, Rachmaninoff, Muddy Waters, Roy Orbison, The Supremes, Rush, Vivaldi, Nine Inch Nails, Queens of the Stone Age, Led Zeppelin, B.B. King, Coldplay, Mumford & Sons, well, damn near anything that's good; I'm fairly eclectic. There's lots of good music out there if you're ears are open. Some of it was made before I was born; some of it is being made right now. The thing that all these genres have in common, when done well, is that they all adhere to most of the basic elements of music. These elements tie music from various eras, cultures, and styles together into a single musical whole. Rap and hip hop have eschewed the use of these musical elements in favor of a highly stylized presentations that is essentially talking to a beat. From a formalist point of view, one could argue that it is not music at all, but an auditory presentation with electronic and (rarely) musical elements. I'm not sure if that is true or not, but the highly modified nature of rap, hip hop, and pop (autotune, looping, sampling, etc.) is disheartening for someone who places high value on musical craftsmanship--not sound engineering.

Furthermore, your assertion that anyone who doesn't like what you like must be "either old, stupid, or racist" is very disappointing. I know that you like rap music, but that's about all I know about you. It would be wrong of me to reduce you to a series of stereotypes about rap fans (criminals, thugs, etc). Why is it any less wrong to label me with some truly ugly insults simply because I don't like music you like? Let's try to avoid reducing our fellow man to the lowest common denominator for the crime of not linking what we like.

 

[ArmyWildcat81]

One thing we can all agree on, is that drake is a Hell of alot better than the horrid eastern Kentucky hill jack cloggers that we had years ago. That was one of the most embarrassing experiences in 30+ years being a UK fan.

Could you imagine having a John Wall, or a Davis etc on a recruiting visit to madness and having to watch that atrocity as their entertainment.

Bring on Drake!

 

[Jkwo]

First off, get trolled harder... you can't. Secondly what is metal? Guy on page 1 says Crue and Def aren't metal and then links a thrash vid. If Zeppelin and Sabbath invented "metal" then Poison, Crue, Def, GN'R, White Snake, Tesla, etc... are all much closer to metal than what you linked. However it's all just some rando a-hole who created a word subjective opinion. Metallica, Megadeath, Maiden, thrash metal, the 80's hair bands were hair metal. It's like the argument everyone is trying to have on rap or hip hop or whatever you want to call it. Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common, do the same music as Jay-Z, Drake, Kendrick, etc... It just so happens that in my opinion the Kweli's of the world spit the hot fire of Dylan more than Drake does. I wish with all my heart Blackstar could of done another album and while I love Hi-Tek, I just imagine Kweli and Mos getting ill on 15 tracks that were produced by Kanye, Dre, No ID. Would of been incredible. Lastly using Taylor Swift as put down is utterly ridiculous, she is one of the few females country, pop, whatever who writes her own tunes.

First, that's not thrash. Stop it. You making that assessment is the metal equivalent of the guy who makes broad brush statements like "all new hip hop sucks" or that Wacka Flocka Flame and Talib Kweli are in the same category of radio garbage. It seems like you are pretty passionate about fighting ignorance re: hip hop, so stop spreading it, re:metal.

Second, I was making a tongue in cheek post, but your attempt to discredit it was so clumsy, that I can't help but comment. Again, though, if you want to debate, at least have that debate with me while not misidentifying Arch Enemy.

Now, go find me two similar recordings between Sabbath (especially the era you're talking about) and any of the makeup-wearing bands you mention.

I'll enjoy the piece and quiet while you pursue that impossible task.

Also, understand that not every track by Sabbath was a metal track. Just like the other metal bands of that era (though they were among the very earliest), they grew up listening to rock and blues, as well. Still, early Sabbath's darker tracks were certainly metal, even if they weren't as great as some of the later albums produced in the genre, imo.

Now, your biggest problem right off the bat is that you lazily lumped in a bunch of bands together with varying degrees of metal influence. GNR might well be the best rock band of the past 35 years, but they're not metal.
Poison have as much to do with metal as the top right corner of the periodic table. They played ho-hum pop through a JCM 800. There's no such thing as a metal song by Poison.

Ditto for Def Leppard, although they do it with better tone now that Cambell joined them and threw his Engl power amp into the mix (the definition of overkill)

It's not iredeemable music, necessarily. In my opinion, they're not as good as some of the other bands mentioned, but the main point is that it's nothing resembling metal.

Crue and Tesla (when they felt like it - eg. Modern Day Cowboy) are much better examples of bands with some metal influence, but based on the rest of this, that could be more of a "broken clock twice a day" thing than an accurate analysis. The funny thing is that "Kickstart My Heart" is more metal than the entire Poison/Leppard discos combined.

Lumping the bands together based on era/hair/makeup is lazy much like when those basketball analysts insist on comparing every white player to other white players.

Again, I was originally making a joke at the expense of "hair metal", which features a bunch of bands frequently lumped together with little sense (as you've just exhibited), with many of them having nothing to do with actual metal. My point (which was entirely light-hearted towards the guy I quoted) was that guys who jump to the bands he listed first thing when they think "metal" tend to be miscalibrated.

Even if they list Crue or WASP, which are more metal than most of the rest, they tend to also want to throw in Bon Jovi or Poison into the same category, which is inaccurate. If you want big-hair 80s bands for this conversation, you should really start with Nitro.

Anyways, on to Zeppelin.

Zeppelin influenced a bunch of metal bands, but that's different than performing metal. They had a couple of tunes that started to push into that territory, like Achilles Last Stand and Kashmir, but the reality is that they were a hard rock/blues band, and one of the greatest of all time - who had unbelievable influence on both the future of rock and metal, who started to crack through the ice in a couple songs, but that transition was finalized by their successors.

By the 70s /early 80s there were already bands that were producing full fledged metal, no qualifiers needed, including Sabbath (way ahead of the curve), Rainbow (wrote both rock songs and fully metal songs right up until RJD left), Dio, Maiden, Priest (though they still played some rock even into the 80s) etc, and there was also extreme metal coming together at that point, like Venom and Celtic Frost and Napalm Death (well, they were punk and then headed towards metal soon after).

You want to know what some relatively early metal sounds like? Here it is in 1978.



There's no ambiguity there. On tracks like these, the rock n' roll elements are gone. It would fit in seamlessly on Maiden albums released a decade later.

You can see in the title that Rainbow was still calling itself rock at this stage, and that disconnect on the direction of the sound was actually the key reason for the imminent split.
Ronnie James Dio had for a couple years been slipping in tunes with this early metal sound he was devising, and the other creative force in the band, legendary guitarist Ritchie Blackmore, wanted to stay in rock territory for commercial reasons.
So right after this album, Dio went on to join Sabbath to continue writing metal, and then soon after, formed his own, self titled band, which debuted with Holy Diver, an all-time metal classic.

If you're still having trouble telling between rock and metal, this is actually a perfect case study. Listen to the above track, and then listen to the next Rainbow album (Down to Earth), when Blackmore went back to writing rock full-time. It's a catchy enough album, but it sounds more like Grand Funk Railroad than the stuff Dio was writing at the time, even though you've got the same guitarist using the same amps.

 

[lacocat]

One thing we can all agree on, is that drake is a Hell of alot better than the horrid eastern Kentucky hill jack cloggers that we had years ago. That was one of the most embarrassing experiences in 30+ years being a UK fan.

Could you imagine having a John Wall, or a Davis etc on a recruiting visit to madness and having to watch that atrocity as their entertainment.

Bring on Drake!

the good old days

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

the good old days

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^ I refuse to believe this actually happened

The irony here is that the cloggers are actually Motley Crüe. That's what they're up to these days.....except for the guy with the fused spine. He's awful at clogging.

 

[caneintally]

the level of stupidity in this thread is amazing . Every style of music has merit . There is important hip hop , as there is important pop , punk , ska , jazz ect . But this is about what the kids like ...

 

[smooth as butter]

He should bring Meek Mill with him lol.