I agree. I think he would improve a ton.
Do we WANT everybody to return?
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I agree. I think he would improve a ton.
I would like Cal to have a short roster like in the 2011 season and the 2012 season with the right players. That way he’s forced to have to play the right lineup 30 per game each. Those teams basically played 6 guys 30 minutes per game and one went to the FF and the other won the chip. When Cal has too many players (options) he screws up.
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Not me cause we know we're going to have injuries, that's been Cal's recipe. It worked when we had recruits, that actually played like they were rated, but I'd rather have a deeper rotation
I say no to Wagner, because he has to be wide open to make a jumpshot. He’s a very poor finisher at the rim and for a point guard he doesn’t make other people better around him. He wants to get his first.
I say yes to Edwards, because he has shown me ability to make jump shots. He became a very good shooter towards the end of the year. Also, he’s not a horrible rebounder, but could be a lot better with minutes played but if he decides to go no big deal.
I say no on big O, because he simply does not understand the game has horrible hands and makes you play four on five on offense
I say no on Bradshaw unless he’s willing to get in the weight room and work on his legs and his arms. He’s just too weak to play at the college level.
I say yes to Edwards, because he has shown me ability to make jump shots. He became a very good shooter towards the end of the year. Also, he’s not a horrible rebounder, but could be a lot better with minutes played but if he decides to go no big deal.
I say no on big O, because he simply does not understand the game has horrible hands and makes you play four on five on offense
I say no on Bradshaw unless he’s willing to get in the weight room and work on his legs and his arms. He’s just too weak to play at the college level.
That’s why I say too much depth is a weakness these days. Always was really but more so now. I’d rather have 8 good players than 11.
I’m not sure Reed will come back ( I think there’s no chance) but let’s say he did and DJ/ Edwards returnes. Wouldn’t Reed be skeptical and worried that Calipari would start them again over him so as not to hurt their feelings?
To be honest anyone with eligibility should come back. That’s the way for any one of them to get better work on their game in the off season and have that year under their belt. I understand though it’s hard because it’s never happened with Cal and Cal hardly ever develops any players.
No!!!!!! Bradshaw could stay at Kentucky for 6 years and he still wouldn't be an average player.
I think some don’t want certain players to return because Cal won’t be able to play them appropriately. Such as starting offensively challenged players who should be spelling the better players by coming off the bench.
If those players don’t return then that temptation is not before Cal.
I really just don't particularly want DJ back. But thats also IF we can keep Reed. If we lose everyone, then we'd need to hope a 2nd year DJ can become who we thought he'd be.
But generally speaking, that's not an experiment I'd want to test. Would rather he just goes to the draft, plus he clearly is being favored because of who his dad is. And thats not a good thing.
And how funny is it, thay the ONE guy we'd be fine with leaving, who might be addition by subtraction, will likely be one of the few who actually does return lol.
But generally speaking, that's not an experiment I'd want to test. Would rather he just goes to the draft, plus he clearly is being favored because of who his dad is. And thats not a good thing.
And how funny is it, thay the ONE guy we'd be fine with leaving, who might be addition by subtraction, will likely be one of the few who actually does return lol.
OK with everyone but Cal be sucking
Let’s be realistic. DJ and JE would be 4 year players at any other school. That’s what they are. That’s the level of their ability. Steady improvement and ready to make a major contribution as junior and seniors
Let’s be realistic. DJ and JE would be 4 year players at any other school. That’s what they are. That’s the level of their ability. Steady improvement and ready to make a major contribution as junior and seniors
Dream on. The top 6 on that team are better than everyone projected on next years roster with the exception of Reed.
What does Edwards returning have to do with Reed's decision whatsoever? Completely different positions.
Doesn't matter who comes back. Cal would fuk up a wet dream.
Well we only have so many spots. 6 of them are for new freshman. We are gonna need some portal guys to replace age and shooting. That only leaves about 3-4 spots for returning guys IMO. At the end of the day it will be the same excuses. We are new, we are young. This team is built for March. Early exit. Repeat.
It would be nice, if they improve and get stronger but I don’t see the roster space. We need some portal guys and shooting.
It's why to this day I still think the '12 was the deepest team in terms of quality because they went 6 deep with roles played by Wiltjer and Vargas for spot minutes to give them some rest. Those 6 there was no drop off.
'15 was deepest team but the forced rotation meant quality sometimes suffered because people played because mins were promised.
Off this roster who I'd want to return:
Reed
Justin
Adou
Z
Burks
Hart
Who I think will return:
DJ and Burks
Reed
Justin
Adou
Z
Burks
Hart
Who I think will return:
DJ and Burks
Even Mackenzie Mgbako is returning for IU. We have dude gonna transfer than played a lot worse than he did at the end of the year.
There is almost no chance both Reed and Wagner return. Both want to and probably deserve to run a team.
There is almost no chance all 3 7-footers return. Minutes were lower than all 3 probably wanted, so returning all 3 would result in the same. I think it unlikely even 2 return.
And even before his announcement, Rob was the only player I saw as an almost certainty to leave. He will be a top 10 pick, and will make an instant impact, and will become a star in the league.
But after all that, yes I would take everyone back!
Reed or DJ (prefer Reed)
Theiro
Z or Bradshaw or Onyenso (preferred order)
Edwards
Burks
Hart
There is almost no chance all 3 7-footers return. Minutes were lower than all 3 probably wanted, so returning all 3 would result in the same. I think it unlikely even 2 return.
And even before his announcement, Rob was the only player I saw as an almost certainty to leave. He will be a top 10 pick, and will make an instant impact, and will become a star in the league.
But after all that, yes I would take everyone back!
Reed or DJ (prefer Reed)
Theiro
Z or Bradshaw or Onyenso (preferred order)
Edwards
Burks
Hart
Yeah I definitely would be fine with Edwards back. I think he will make the leap forward as a sophomore. I think he was on the verge of figuring it all out. And his stock could sure improve a lot.
NBA usually drops sophomores in their rankings.. but I think it's possible a guy like Edwards could work his way back into the top5 with a good showing next year. I mean, heck Tyrese proctor was considered by some to be a top2 pick this year lol.
NBA usually drops sophomores in their rankings.. but I think it's possible a guy like Edwards could work his way back into the top5 with a good showing next year. I mean, heck Tyrese proctor was considered by some to be a top2 pick this year lol.
I think we get back DJ. I’m honestly not sure about anyone else. I thought Thiero was a lock, but now that looks questionable.
This 100%, and bring in the three biggest dogs in the portal that can shoot and guard. Alabama just replaced their entire team and is in the final 4.
Edwards could improve his draft status by returning. A great Sophomore season could push him into lottery or at least squarely in the first round.
Ivisic could also improve his draft status, but I think he is gone. He came to play one year and in his situation, he probably feels his opportunity to make the NBA slipping away.
Bradshaw definitely needs more time in college to put on some muscle. Not sure it will be at UK.
Onyenso’s game is not for the pros, so he should stay in school (here or transfer).
I think realistically speaking the best case scenario for us is returning:
Sheppard
Edwards
Burks
Sign a wing and a big out of the portal.
Ivisic could also improve his draft status, but I think he is gone. He came to play one year and in his situation, he probably feels his opportunity to make the NBA slipping away.
Bradshaw definitely needs more time in college to put on some muscle. Not sure it will be at UK.
Onyenso’s game is not for the pros, so he should stay in school (here or transfer).
I think realistically speaking the best case scenario for us is returning:
Sheppard
Edwards
Burks
Sign a wing and a big out of the portal.
I’d take Wagner back in a heartbeat. Ankle set him back, and the talent is certainly there. He’ll vastly improve I believe.
I think the 4 most important players to return next year should be Sheppard, Edwards, Theiro and Big Z.
Shep is the shooter we need.
Edwards could have a Terrance Jones like second year.
Adou is just the motor of the team. He plays hard every times he's out there.
Big Z could be a great big man if he is actually taught spacing and defense.
Shep is the shooter we need.
Edwards could have a Terrance Jones like second year.
Adou is just the motor of the team. He plays hard every times he's out there.
Big Z could be a great big man if he is actually taught spacing and defense.
Honestly does it really matter. Going to get the same results. As long as Cal is coaching this team we are screwed.
Well, I guess that’s better than losing everyone.
Basically looking at:
G Wagner
G Fland
G Transfer Wing
F Quaintance
F Transfer Big
Perry, Richmond, Knox, Burks, and Cyril off the bench.
That’s an NIT team. Maybe tourney worthy if the two transfers are top notch.
That would be ideal.
G Sheppard
G Fland
G Edwards
F Thiero
F Ivisic
Perry, Richmond, Knox, Burks, Quaintance, and Cyril is a pretty strong bench.
I can handle about any lineup that is led by Sheppard.
Give me Sheppard back. That’s all I really ask.
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