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At first glance thought this was a butters thread.
It's a nice shot form. Athletic guys have a baseline advantage for shooting because they can elevate and create space without having to invest a lot of effort or focus in doing so. Unfortunately, that freak athleticism also allows players to get away with not being great shooters right up until the college level.
Agreed . Some on here act as if he's gonna be like worse than briscoe . Smh
His form isn't THAT bad , and he can hit some jumpers
I don't think he's gonna be a lamb type threat but I can see him keepIng defenses honest after a month or 2 into the season, once he finds his groove (maybe sooner ?)
I see maybe 31-36% 3pt
And 74-78% FT
Jmo of course
His form isn't THAT bad , and he can hit some jumpers
I don't think he's gonna be a lamb type threat but I can see him keepIng defenses honest after a month or 2 into the season, once he finds his groove (maybe sooner ?)
I see maybe 31-36% 3pt
And 74-78% FT
Jmo of course
If he can sniff 30% from Three, he will be a top 3 pick if not #1........that was the knock on Wiggins and then Jackson. By season end, Jackson was really honing it in from long distance.
I still think Jackson may end the best pro from this Draft as long as he isn't a mental midget given his actions at KU.....
I still think Jackson may end the best pro from this Draft as long as he isn't a mental midget given his actions at KU.....
You're setting yourself up for disappointment then. People seem to think a player doesn't reach "good shooter" status until they are hitting 40+ percent. Look up Ray Allen's career 3pt%, actually I'll save you the trouble, it's almost exactly 40% and no one made more than he did. Steph Curry is the best shooter of all time and well ahead of pace to beat Allen's record and his career average is sub 45%. Yet you're hoping Diallo (who is not known as a shooter) hits 36% at the low end. Wow, please learn basketball.
With Diallo's other attributes, 31% would be plenty good.
If he shoots 36%, he's probably a top 5 pick.
If he shoots 36%, he's probably a top 5 pick.
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And since when do we compare statistics for an NBA player over the course of a career to that of a one year college player.
For perspective, the terrible shooting UNC championship team had 5 guys over 31% from 3 this year.
So to reiterate, to the initial response, if he does not shoot 31% I'm not sure how much "respect" he's going to get especially when you have guys around him who are inexperienced unproven shooters. In that case, he won't be shooting many anyways and a guy like Gabriel better step up.
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And college and NBA.
Only time it really becomes problem is beating top tier team who also has top talents.
We have watched Booker, Murray and Monk these past three years. Those are three of the best shooters to ever play for UK. Diallo needs to hit open shots to create scoring drives. He will be a step down from what we have enjoyed at the position as a shooter. We have seen great college shooters.
i agree with your points, but
Ray Allen in college was 40.2%, 44.5%, and 46.6%.
Elite shooters in college would be around 45%+. Lamb for example eclipsed that with 48.6% and 46.6% (i believe). Curry was trying to do too much in college so his #s aren't great (40.8, 43.9, and 38.7). Probably why no one thought he would be this good in NBA. However, if Curry was on our team, he would probably easily eclipsed 45% or higher.
Steve Kerr for example, shot 57.3% in college from threes in his senior season.
But your point is still valid. but, not sure why you would compare to NBA where game is much faster and 3 point line is much further back. Defense is about 10 times better than college level as well.
But, we don't need Diallo to make it at 35%+. % isn't that important. It's the attempts. People bitched about Briscoe/Fox shooting three, but between 1 game difference, it was negligible difference in outcome because they shot so little even if they shot it at 45%.
Diallo just need to shoot when he is wide open but focus on driving the ball to the basket. Dish if needed, but that's his game. Biggest improvement Jones did between year 1 and year 2 is simply stop shooting so many threes.
In my opinion:
Below 20% = weak
20%+ = poor
25%+ = below average
30%+ = average
35%+ = good
40%+ = great
45%+ = exceptional
I expect next year:
Green = good
Knox = good
Washington = good
Gilgeous-Alexander = good
Baker = good
Diallo = average
Gabriel = average
Vanderbilt = average
Killeya-Jones = average
So I expect this squad to be an average to good 3-point shooting team. Probably shooting around 35% from 3.
I don't think we will have a Lamb (exceptional) type shooter, but on the other hand, I don't see us having a Briscoe (weak) type shooter.
Below 20% = weak
20%+ = poor
25%+ = below average
30%+ = average
35%+ = good
40%+ = great
45%+ = exceptional
I expect next year:
Green = good
Knox = good
Washington = good
Gilgeous-Alexander = good
Baker = good
Diallo = average
Gabriel = average
Vanderbilt = average
Killeya-Jones = average
So I expect this squad to be an average to good 3-point shooting team. Probably shooting around 35% from 3.
I don't think we will have a Lamb (exceptional) type shooter, but on the other hand, I don't see us having a Briscoe (weak) type shooter.
If he shoots 32-35 percent from three I'll be happy, he's not a great shooter so I don't get people expecting better than that. He'll be a great slasher and defender imo.
31% is not awful. 33% from 3 is the same as 50% from 2. And most guards do not even shoot 50% from 2.
If Baker gets enough looks I will say Elite the kid has range. Jones not sure about how many threes he will take but his midrange shooting will he excellent he has already shown that but man I hope your right with this teams defensive potential we shoot those percentages we will get number 9
If he shoots 31percent it will be awesome he will make opposing defenses account for him to drive and dunk on the world
Totally agree. In fact, I'll be surprised if he ever has a shot that touches the rim. Swish!
He will probably get so bored swishing 3's that he starts farting the ball out of his butt from mid court just because he can...
Nate Britt shot 33%. Did you get nervous when he shot it?
About the same respect as you on this board.
And since when do we compare statistics for an NBA player over the course of a career to that of a one year college player.
For perspective, the terrible shooting UNC championship team had 5 guys over 31% from 3 this year.
So to reiterate, to the initial response, if he does not shoot 31% I'm not sure how much "respect" he's going to get especially when you have guys around him who are inexperienced unproven shooters. In that case, he won't be shooting many anyways and a guy like Gabriel better step up.
I could have sworn that some on this board said Diallo could not shoot ! Now which is it can he or can he not shoot ? Serious question.
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Probably the same posters that said Diallo had no intention of playing for UK.
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Keyser is one (Knox anyone ? lol)
There were lots of people taking the bashing of Hammmy and Cal WAY to far.
Something I havent seen brought up yet in this thread is when players hit their 3s. Aaron Harrison shot about 31% here but I feel like I remember him hitting a few big ones. Monk hit a high percentage and he was clutch. Same with Lamb. Not really the case for Booker.
The last part of your statement is what gets you over the top in the draft. I perceive the league is taking that more into consideration. This coming draft will either prove or disprove my perception...(This is totally my perception from a business standpoint and not a player standpoint as my expertise is not much in that area.
When has a bad shooter shot better than 30% in their first year? Knox shot 27% from three in AAU but many think he's this very good shooter for some reason....anyway back to the original question
Wall
Fox
MKG
Wenyen
All were bad shooters in Highschool and I don't know what they shot in year one off the top of my head but I don't think it was that good (whole season, not a string of a couple games).
Wall
Fox
MKG
Wenyen
All were bad shooters in Highschool and I don't know what they shot in year one off the top of my head but I don't think it was that good (whole season, not a string of a couple games).
You won't see diallo take many 3s he is going to constantly drive to the basket like what cal wanted monk to do. Monk could settle though because he was deadly outside plus he was only 6'3. Diallo is 6'6 and is a freak as well so he will drive most of the time unless teams dare him to shoot from the outside.
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