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Devin Booker has signed with the Phoenix Suns, as well as Nike

The sad thing is that I could make all of those posts and them be completely believable because so many posters here actually say things like that and mean them.

It's sad that you can say completely ridiculous statements on this board and people will believe them because they're so used to reading outlandish posts from crazy "fans".
 
Not quite sure about the 80%-120% as the minimum. The NBA was working of a Deferred Compensation arrangement a few years ago and maybe the 80% was related o whether the player wanted to take part of the minimum in a deferral account?
 
Not quite sure about the 80%-120% as the minimum. The NBA was working of a Deferred Compensation arrangement a few years ago and maybe the 80% was related o whether the player wanted to take part of the minimum in a deferral account?

Teams have flexibility to pay anywhere from 80-120% of the rookie scale amount.

I think the reasoning is to allow a little bit of wiggle room to reward top talents. In practice, nearly every player gets the full 120%.

The only reason I can think of for the 80% is a negotiation point. Owners are willing to go up to 120% as long as they technically have the right to drop to 80%.
 
Let's hope without proper education on finances he's smarter with his money than the countless examples of people in his case that weren't. His talent and potential got him that cash. It doesn't mean he couldn't have come back. But I get where you're coming from.

He and his family could have done whatever they wanted. If he wanted to come back, as a UK fan and as someone who wants to see all these guys succeed, I'd have been happy, just like I was when he decided he was ready.

The no education>>>going broke argument for why athletes should stay is really none of our business. Besides, so many guys who jumped straight out of high school or after one year despite not being "ready" did so because education wasn't something they were well equipped for.

Four years of college wasn't going to keep a guy like Mike Beasley from being Mike Beasley any more than hiring financial advisors and accountants solves their problems when they go that route, although I think finance classes and the like as mandatory courses for freshmen athletes at schools like UK would be a positive step.

I promise you I'm 100000-percent on board with solving the problems that lead to all this, but I'm not about to tell a kid to pass up millions to test the theory.

You won't ever see me criticize a kid who wants to come back. I'll criticize a coach who talks him into it, or a fanbase that feels they deserve it, but my entire point in all of these discussions has been that they should leave when they and their families want to go and that trying to nitpick a teenager's game or mental state to make ourselves feel better as fans, or to gloat if they fail, is psychotic.
 
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He and his family could have done whatever they wanted. If he wanted to come back, as a UK fan and as someone who wants to see all these guys succeed, I'd have been happy, just like I was when he decided he was ready.

The no education>>>going broke argument for why athletes should stay is really none of our business. Besides, so many guys who jumped straight out of high school or after one year despite not being "ready" did so because education wasn't something they were well equipped for.

Four years of college wasn't going to keep a guy like Mike Beasley from being Mike Beasley any more than hiring financial advisors and accountants solves their problems when they go that route, although I think finance classes and the like as mandatory courses for freshmen athletes at schools like UK would be a positive step.

I promise you I'm 100000-percent on board with solving the problems that lead to all this, but I'm not about to tell a kid to pass up millions to test the theory.

You won't ever see me criticize a kid who wants to come back. I'll criticize a coach who talks him into it, or a fanbase that feels they deserve it, but my entire point in all of these discussions has been that they should leave when they and their families want to go and that trying to nitpick a teenager's game or mental state to make ourselves feel better as fans, or to gloat if they fail, is psychotic.


Awesome man, you are so righteous :clap:
 
Awesome man, you are so righteous :clap:

I swear, it's almost as if you hate to see our players succeed because you would rather talk garbage about them at UK.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're looking for an example of somebody to not be like, look no further than CUT-NETS.
 
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I swear, it's almost as if you hate to see our players succeed because you would rather talk garbage about them at UK.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're looking for an example of somebody to not be like, look no further than CUT-NETS.

Put that trash on ignore...feel better about your experience on this site. I can vouch for that :)
 
I swear, it's almost as if you hate to see our players succeed because you would rather talk garbage about them at UK.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you're looking for an example of somebody to not be like, look no further than CUT-NETS.

The point is, what does Gonzo want? Awesome man, you are happy for Booker. So is everyone else thats a UK fan. We're all happy for him. Are fans who said "man I wish Booker would have come back" supposed to feel guilty or something? Or even fans who said "Booker should have come back" supposed to feel guilty? (for the record I knew very early he would not be back and thought he would jump on the opportunity due to the Thompson success in GS).

There's quite the group on here that go around and blast anyone who doesn't toe the company line of whatever Cal thinks is best is indeed best. They think that every move Cal makes is calculated. Cal could stop at McDonalds for a cup of coffee and this group would spin it into some stroke of brilliance by Cal with some deeper meaning that will have positive implications on recruiting etc. Give me a break guys. Its like anyone who takes a subjective approach to Cal and UK basketball is "miserable, hater, troll, trash, not a UK fan, etc".

In 2014, given all the talent, that team was terrible until the famous tweak in the SEC tournament. Is it fair to say that Cal simply didn't know what the hell to do with that team all season? I honestly think he just couldn't figure out what to do with them until the SEC tournament. The Harrisons driving wildly to the basket and throwing up shots off the backboard with 3 defenders on them all season long in an effort to score, get fouled, or both and Cal finally figured out "damn this isn't working, maybe Ill have them pass". Is it bad to say that its kind of surprising that it took all season long to figure out what was wrong with that team? You come on here and say something like that and the masses descend with the usuals leading the charge and wearing a mask of righteousness "Cal knew the whole time" or "Cal's got this" or my all time favorite "Cal is around the team way more than you etc" Hell Pete Carrol was around the Seahawks way more than me too yet even I could tell you that Lynch has to get the ball with the Super Bowl on the line.
 
The point is, what does Gonzo want? Awesome man, you are happy for Booker. So is everyone else thats a UK fan. We're all happy for him. Are fans who said "man I wish Booker would have come back" supposed to feel guilty or something? Or even fans who said "Booker should have come back" supposed to feel guilty? (for the record I knew very early he would not be back and thought he would jump on the opportunity due to the Thompson success in GS).

There's quite the group on here that go around and blast anyone who doesn't toe the company line of whatever Cal thinks is best is indeed best. They think that every move Cal makes is calculated. Cal could stop at McDonalds for a cup of coffee and this group would spin it into some stroke of brilliance by Cal with some deeper meaning that will have positive implications on recruiting etc. Give me a break guys. Its like anyone who takes a subjective approach to Cal and UK basketball is "miserable, hater, troll, trash, not a UK fan, etc".

In 2014, given all the talent, that team was terrible until the famous tweak in the SEC tournament. Is it fair to say that Cal simply didn't know what the hell to do with that team all season? I honestly think he just couldn't figure out what to do with them until the SEC tournament. The Harrisons driving wildly to the basket and throwing up shots off the backboard with 3 defenders on them all season long in an effort to score, get fouled, or both and Cal finally figured out "damn this isn't working, maybe Ill have them pass". Is it bad to say that its kind of surprising that it took all season long to figure out what was wrong with that team? You come on here and say something like that and the masses descend with the usuals leading the charge and wearing a mask of righteousness "Cal knew the whole time" or "Cal's got this" or my all time favorite "Cal is around the team way more than you etc" Hell Pete Carrol was around the Seahawks way more than me too yet even I could tell you that Lynch has to get the ball with the Super Bowl on the line.

Good to have such and even-keeled, voice of reason around here. :joy:
 
The point is, what does Gonzo want? Awesome man, you are happy for Booker. So is everyone else thats a UK fan. We're all happy for him. Are fans who said "man I wish Booker would have come back" supposed to feel guilty or something? Or even fans who said "Booker should have come back" supposed to feel guilty? (for the record I knew very early he would not be back and thought he would jump on the opportunity due to the Thompson success in GS).

There's quite the group on here that go around and blast anyone who doesn't toe the company line of whatever Cal thinks is best is indeed best. They think that every move Cal makes is calculated. Cal could stop at McDonalds for a cup of coffee and this group would spin it into some stroke of brilliance by Cal with some deeper meaning that will have positive implications on recruiting etc. Give me a break guys. Its like anyone who takes a subjective approach to Cal and UK basketball is "miserable, hater, troll, trash, not a UK fan, etc".

In 2014, given all the talent, that team was terrible until the famous tweak in the SEC tournament. Is it fair to say that Cal simply didn't know what the hell to do with that team all season? I honestly think he just couldn't figure out what to do with them until the SEC tournament. The Harrisons driving wildly to the basket and throwing up shots off the backboard with 3 defenders on them all season long in an effort to score, get fouled, or both and Cal finally figured out "damn this isn't working, maybe Ill have them pass". Is it bad to say that its kind of surprising that it took all season long to figure out what was wrong with that team? You come on here and say something like that and the masses descend with the usuals leading the charge and wearing a mask of righteousness "Cal knew the whole time" or "Cal's got this" or my all time favorite "Cal is around the team way more than you etc" Hell Pete Carrol was around the Seahawks way more than me too yet even I could tell you that Lynch has to get the ball with the Super Bowl on the line.




"Hell Pete Carrol was around the Seahawks way more than me too yet even I could tell you that Lynch has to get the ball with the Super Bowl on the line.[/QUOTE]



So... do you go on the Seahawks message boards and hijack every thread with how bad you think Pete Carroll is and how he should have won at least one more championship with all that talent?
 

  1. Subjective is the opposite of objective, which refers to things that are more clear-cut. That Earth has one moon is objective — it's a fact. Whether the moon is pretty or not is subjective — not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    Lets give this some application for here. That UK has won a title during Cal's tenure here is objective--- it's a fact. Whether Cal should have more than one title or not is subjective -- not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    I have the opinion (subjective) that we probably should have more than one title. I don't think its a crazy stretch to say that. You guys disagree.

    Thanks for playing……again.
 
"Hell Pete Carrol was around the Seahawks way more than me too yet even I could tell you that Lynch has to get the ball with the Super Bowl on the line.



So... do you go on the Seahawks message boards and hijack every thread with how bad you think Pete Carroll is and how he should have won at least one more championship with all that talent?[/QUOTE]


Yeah because its exactly the same :cool:
 
  1. Subjective is the opposite of objective, which refers to things that are more clear-cut. That Earth has one moon is objective — it's a fact. Whether the moon is pretty or not is subjective — not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    Lets give this some application for here. That UK has won a title during Cal's tenure here is objective--- it's a fact. Whether Cal should have more than one title or not is subjective -- not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    I have the opinion (subjective) that we probably should have more than one title. I don't think its a crazy stretch to say that. You guys disagree.

    Thanks for playing……again.

We're all aware. Everyone else here went to middle school too. That you believed a lack of understanding of the word subjective is why I was laughing explains a lot and earns another [laughing].
 
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  1. Subjective is the opposite of objective, which refers to things that are more clear-cut. That Earth has one moon is objective — it's a fact. Whether the moon is pretty or not is subjective — not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    Lets give this some application for here. That UK has won a title during Cal's tenure here is objective--- it's a fact. Whether Cal should have more than one title or not is subjective -- not everyone will agree. Facts are objective, but opinions are subjective.

    I have the opinion (subjective) that we probably should have more than one title. I don't think its a crazy stretch to say that. You guys disagree.

    Thanks for playing……again.


Who disagrees that we probably should have more than one title with Cal?

We disagree that Cal doesn't suck because he hasn't won that other title yet.

You find a way to turn every thread into Cal should have won another title. We get it, we know, thanks for contributing. We want more titles but we still like our coach.

Get it?
 
Who disagrees that we probably should have more than one title with Cal?

We disagree that Cal doesn't suck because he hasn't won that other title yet.

You find a way to turn every thread into Cal should have won another title. We get it, we know, thanks for contributing. We want more titles but we still like our coach.

Get it?


Who said Cal sucks?
 
Who said Cal sucks?


Not you pal, you are obviously his #1 fan...

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Not you pal, you are obviously his #1 fan...

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No i know Ive never said "Cal sucks". I was trying to find out who did. Guess you don't know. Again, you all interpret a poster saying "Cal should have more titles given the talent he's had (2010, 2015, even 2014)" as "Cal sucks". We've had this talk over and over again. No one is saying Cal sucks. You yourself have said you thought he blew it last season on the three-straight shot clock violations, I didn't interpret that as you saying "Cal sucks". So why are you?
 
No i know Ive never said "Cal sucks". I was trying to find out who did. Guess you don't know. Again, you all interpret a poster saying "Cal should have more titles given the talent he's had (2010, 2015, even 2014)" as "Cal sucks". We've had this talk over and over again. No one is saying Cal sucks. You yourself have said you thought he blew it last season on the three-straight shot clock violations, I didn't interpret that as you saying "Cal sucks". So why are you?



Right. But damn Cuts, do you not realize that you bring it up up in every thread you post in? It comes in different forms or fashions. It may be well Cal said this about the NBA or his coaching or his goals or whatever...

You turn so many conversations into Cal isn't "as good as you want him to be." (Instead of sucks)
 
Right. But damn Cuts, do you not realize that you bring it up up in every thread you post in? It comes in different forms or fashions. It may be well Cal said this about the NBA or his coaching or his goals or whatever...

You turn so many conversations into Cal isn't "as good as you want him to be." (Instead of sucks)

No he's not as good as I want him to be sometimes.
 
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