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Dawson and the Press

We need him to be poised and think clearly under pressure , a tactician . Let the defensive coordinator lose his ish .
 
Also, I find it so odd that people HATED the draws, screens and quarterback runs ever since brooks was here. Now people are saying they should have more quarterback runs and screens. You can't win as an OC.
 
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Chipping the d end with a rb then have the rb leek out as a safety valve would be a start...throw screens..like to see play action rollout and have a te or fullback leekout behind the lb..

Right. We needed to chip to help our OT's out in some situations. Especially considering Conrad lining up in the bckfield really doesnt seem to pose a pass threat at all.

Picoro on the radio commentary said that Towles & UK could have gained huge yards all night long if the QB kept the ball & went around end when we went with read-option plays.

but it is obvious through 3 games that unlike Brown Dawson does not want his QB running the ball at all unless it is a completely broken passing play.

This is absolutely true. If Towles wouldve kept just a few times, it wouldve kept the defense honest and opened up the "give". No need in running an option, when it isnt actually an option.
 
Watched the whole video and didn't see anything that would explain Kyle Tucker's tweet. Coach Dawson handled it great! Accepted responsibility for his mistakes and holds the players accountable for theirs. He was smiling and joking, for Christ's sake, what else did Kyle want? A kiss on the cheek? People need to quit overreacting to everything!
 
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Haha, where are all the folks who insisted we had a major upgrade in OC's this year? Now dont anyone jump on me, I've been a professed fan of Dawson since his hire. But it was silly in the offseason all the people who trashed Neal Brown based on his 2 years here.....welp maybe you people are starting to realize that the struggles he had are some of the same ones Dawson is now dealing with?

As for that little exchange, no problem with the press or Dawson. Dawson looks like he has had some sleepless nights since Sat; love that our OC takes our struggling offense that personally. I think he is dealing with a boss who instructed him at the start of this season to run the ball maybe more than Dawson would prefer too in order to protect a shaky defense - but now maybe Stoops has more confidence in his defense and will allow his OC to cut the offense loose a little more.

And I love that unlike other programs Coach Stoops isnt insecure and allows his OC & DC stand up in front of the press and answer questions instead of them being hidden away in the basement film room insulated from the fans hearing from them.

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It was the popular thing to do to trash Neal Brown and proclaim Dawson as the savior this offseason, but myself and a handful of others continued to defend Brown (and get ripped in the process).

I know one thing. Brown is looking better and better by the day. That's not taking anything away from Dawson because I think he'll turn out to be a solid hire once he gets a couple years of play calling experience under his belt, but when looking back at what Neal Brown had to work with and how many points he put up on some of the best defenses in the nation last year, it was absolutely ridiculous how much criticism he received.

Brown was a solid offensive coordinator and we were lucky to have him. I get the feeling that he has to be sitting down there at Troy and having a chuckle now that our fans realize he was doing just about the absolute best he possibly could with what he had to work with last year. Could you imagine if Brown's offense had this year's defense (and this year's improved players across the board)?
LOL, yeah our offense tore it up against LSU, UT, and Missouri last year. 20 against Ohio. 17 against Vandy. Killed it.

Look, I'm not saying Neal Brown wasn't unfairly criticized, but you're just propping him up here to support your (unfair) criticism of Dawson. Ironic.
 
Right. We needed to chip to help our OT's out in some situations. Especially considering Conrad lining up in the bckfield really doesnt seem to pose a pass threat at all.



This is absolutely true. If Towles wouldve kept just a few times, it wouldve kept the defense honest and opened up the "give". No need in running an option, when it isnt actually an option.
We will HAVE to do this against SEC defenses . Dawson will learn . I'm bettin we put some of that in this week . If he didn't I'll be concerned . I don't want Towles to run ALOT , but it is one of his strengths and bettin if he had his choice he would run more . Just enough to keep the defense honest .
 
Also, I find it so odd that people HATED the draws, screens and quarterback runs ever since brooks was here. Now people are saying they should have more quarterback runs and screens. You can't win as an OC.

Both of these opinions can easily be true. You don't want to run too much of anything, whether it be deep passes, short passes, runs, w/e, but you also don't want to completely forget about anything either. Running 20 screens a game is bad, running no screens can also be bad. You can say that for any play call. The only teams that can run the same plays over and over again and have success are the ones who just physically dominate opponents, in which case basically anything will work. Think '95 Nebraska when everyone in the stadium knew what was coming and no one could stop it. Most teams aren't '95 Nebraska and need to mix it up in order to succeed.

I'm not down on Dawson at this point. I think he's learning on the job as a play caller and is going to have some growing pains. I also think he's limited by his players at this point. Oline can't block, receivers dropping balls and a QB who either can't accurately throw intermediate/short passes or at the very least a QB he doesn't yet trust to throw those passes.
 
We will HAVE to do this against SEC defenses . Dawson will learn . I'm bettin we put some of that in this week . If he didn't I'll be concerned . I don't want Towles to run ALOT , but it is one of his strengths and bettin if he had his choice he would run more . Just enough to keep the defense honest .

Right. Even if he keeps a few times and gets nowhere, at least the defense has to honor it. UF completely ignored Towles as a ballcarrier and it hurt our run game.
 
We sure could have used a few QB runs (designed or not) and screens on Saturday. That would have won the game.

Florida won the game with a (freshman, no less) pocket passer making plays with his legs.

RS Frosh - a big difference there.
 
Dawson needs some heat after the past six quarters of football. He gets paid very well to identify and scheme to hide weaknesses we may have up front. We may need to shift to more of a traditional air raid look in between the 20's to help out our pass protection woes. We have the speed at the skill positions to gain yardage in space. Our biggest obstacle is Towles' inconsistency and accuracy issues. Towles has to throw a more catchable ball to help our skill players out.
 
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Does everyone assume that Coach Stoops doesn't have his thumb on the offense?

I know what is said publicly, but it seems like the first half of the ULL game we saw what Dawson wanted to do....throw the ball downfield and often. Made for short drives (TOP wise) and our D was on the field a lot....and the D got tired 2nd half as a result.

If I were a betting man, I'd say Coach Stoops is pulling strings on the offensive play calls more than we are led to believe.
 
Does everyone assume that Coach Stoops doesn't have his thumb on the offense?

I know what is said publicly, but it seems like the first half of the ULL game we saw what Dawson wanted to do....throw the ball downfield and often. Made for short drives (TOP wise) and our D was on the field a lot....and the D got tired 2nd half as a result.

If I were a betting man, I'd say Coach Stoops is pulling strings on the offensive play calls more than we are led to believe.

Dawson seemed sincere when he said that he called the offense but that Stoops may say he has four downs or to keep it on the ground before a half.
 
Oh I have no question that Stoops leaned on Dawson before the season to insist he call more run plays than he really wants, in order to protect what was thought in preseason to be a shaky defense. A UK media guy (maybe Tucker?) commented that Stoops has been with Dawson in offense huddles much moreso this year than he was the previous 2 with Brown.
 
The media should be asking tough questions, if the coach wants it or not. So many on here cry about how Tom Jurich and company are protected by the Louisville media and how they don't go after them but want the media to be cumbaya here at UK. You can't have it both ways.

Frankly, didn't see anything wrong with either side during the exchange. Saw the media looking for answers and a coach trying to stand up for himself and players
The media most certainly does not protect Jurich or anyone else in UofL athletics. That is the biggest lie that is constantly being tossed out. Why do you think so many of us UofL fans dropped our subscriptions to the CJ?
 
The media most certainly does not protect Jurich or anyone else in UofL athletics. That is the biggest lie that is constantly being tossed out. Why do you think so many of us UofL fans dropped our subscriptions to the CJ?


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I've got to say we heard about the Air Raid lineage. I had visions of te James Whalen and RB Anthony White helping our WR catch balls coming back. Nope. Not much of a playbook. Very conservative. Been disappointed. No Air Raid no scoring. Don't get feisty coach. D is playing winning football.
The D is playing very good ball indeed, and 3 weeks ago everyone wanted D J. fired. Let these young coaches develope into something good.
 
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The media most certainly does not protect Jurich or anyone else in UofL athletics. That is the biggest lie that is constantly being tossed out. Why do you think so many of us UofL fans dropped our subscriptions to the CJ?
THAT IS A HILARIOUS STATEMENT !
 
Saying stoops has his hand in the play calling is ridiculous and a complete fantasy. Complete control of the offense was one of the main reasons Dawson took the job. I'm sure Stoops and the rest of the staff are involved the game plan and prep but it's Dawson's offense.
 
Saying stoops has his hand in the play calling is ridiculous and a complete fantasy. Complete control of the offense was one of the main reasons Dawson took the job. I'm sure Stoops and the rest of the staff are involved the game plan and prep but it's Dawson's offense.


I don't think he gets involved during the game that much.

I would bet he provided a lot of input after that first game, with us not controlling the ball better in the second half.

Then it looked as though we tried to over compensate a bit at SC possibly for that reason...?

Dawson admitted he made a couple bad calls vs Florida, but our execution at oline, QB and wr was not good any way.

I think Dawson will find his groove and the kids will also.
 
Simple question: Why do we use the "read option" in the running game when the QB NEVER keeps the ball? If the other team knows the QB is never going to keep the ball, doesn't running the "read option" only serve to create a slower handoff time between QB and RB, force the o-line to hold blocks longer, and allow the d-ends to crash inside with no absolutely no fear of getting burned?
 
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Simple question: Why do we use the "read option" in the running game when the QB NEVER keeps the ball? If the other team knows the QB is never going to keep the ball, doesn't running the "read option" only serve to create a slower handoff time between QB and RB, force the o-line to hold blocks longer, and allow the d-ends to crash inside with no absolutely no fear of getting burned?


So, I am not the only one who thought PT had some tremendous opportunities to fake the handoff and keep it?

One of my biggest wtf's all game.

Along with these:

Why are we re-punting?

Why isn't Westry beating the QB to the pylon?

Why are we not countering this outside pass rush?

Why can't Baker catch the first pass?

Why can't we tackle the QB?

Why hasn't someone shot the ref who called the hit on their QB a penalty?


Of course I also asked these also:

Where has that pass been all night?
(On the long ball completion and again on the first down rope for a first down that series.)

How good Boom can be?

What is up with our Dline? Playing like mad dogs.

What happened to our lbers? Filling gaps like pros.


Starting to see the evolution I hope. We will have plays every game that make us scratch our heads, but we might just be ok if we can continue to learn and improve every game.

It won't ever come fast enough for some fans but I think it's coming.
 
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Saying stoops has his hand in the play calling is ridiculous and a complete fantasy. Complete control of the offense was one of the main reasons Dawson took the job. I'm sure Stoops and the rest of the staff are involved the game plan and prep but it's Dawson's offense.

Why are you so sure? And why is that "complete fantasy"?

If you don't think he has a say, then I'd argue that's complete fantasy. I mean he's the head coach!!

Look at our offense in the first half of ULL versus the rest of the year. And don't forget Dawson threw the ball 70 times in a game whe he was coaching at a smaller school. The evidence is there - he prefers to throw the ball.
 
Why are you so sure? And why is that "complete fantasy"?

If you don't think he has a say, then I'd argue that's complete fantasy. I mean he's the head coach!!

Look at our offense in the first half of ULL versus the rest of the year. And don't forget Dawson threw the ball 70 times in a game whe he was coaching at a smaller school. The evidence is there - he prefers to throw the ball.
I believe Dawson when he says Stoops lets him do his thing. If Dawson didn't have complete control he wouldn't be here to begin with, as that was part of the deal, and they wouldn't be paying him 500 g's to hold a clip board and take orders from the head coach on what to run. Fans want to create these scenarios and I don't know why. Stoops is also a defensive guy and typically defensive guys don't meddle in the offense. Stoops also has taken on another hat this year working more with the secondary. The guy can only do so much. This is Dawson's offense.
 
Why are you so sure? And why is that "complete fantasy"?

If you don't think he has a say, then I'd argue that's complete fantasy. I mean he's the head coach!!

Look at our offense in the first half of ULL versus the rest of the year. And don't forget Dawson threw the ball 70 times in a game whe he was coaching at a smaller school. The evidence is there - he prefers to throw the ball.

I believe Dawson when he says Stoops lets him do his thing. If Dawson didn't have complete control he wouldn't be here to begin with, as that was part of the deal, and they wouldn't be paying him 500 g's to hold a clip board and take orders from the head coach on what to run. Fans want to create these scenarios and I don't know why. Stoops is also a defensive guy and typically defensive guys don't meddle in the offense. Stoops also has taken on another hat this year working more with the secondary. The guy can only do so much. This is Dawson's offense.



The truth is somewhere in the middle here fellas...

I'm sure he lets Dawson call his plays, but Stoops has input, may be after the game, as was implied the first week, but every HC has input.
 
The truth is somewhere in the middle here fellas...

I'm sure he lets Dawson call his plays, but Stoops has input, may be after the game, as was implied the first week, but every HC has input.

Saying stoops has his hand in the play calling is ridiculous and a complete fantasy. Complete control of the offense was one of the main reasons Dawson took the job. I'm sure Stoops and the rest of the staff are involved the game plan and prep but it's Dawson's offense.
 
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I see that, but I think the confusion comes with the phrase "complete control" which could appear to infer something more than just play calling during the game.

Perhaps if you explained the opposing statements it would be easier to comprehend?
 
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I believe Dawson when he says Stoops lets him do his thing. If Dawson didn't have complete control he wouldn't be here to begin with, as that was part of the deal, and they wouldn't be paying him 500 g's to hold a clip board and take orders from the head coach on what to run. Fans want to create these scenarios and I don't know why. Stoops is also a defensive guy and typically defensive guys don't meddle in the offense. Stoops also has taken on another hat this year working more with the secondary. The guy can only do so much. This is Dawson's offense.

Maybe it was a part of the deal that he could call the plays if he focuses on the run as well. It's all speculation, but you can't act like Coach Stoops has no hand in what the offense does. He does.

All I'm really trying to say is that people already dumping on Dawson should hold off....for a multitude of reasons. One of which may be that he and the head coach collaborate on play calling. Another could be that most of our skill guys, except Towles, are Sophs or younger.

I hated the mostly conservative play calling against UF (imo it was), but it did keep us in the game, and it kept the defense off the field quite a bit (Stoops being a Defense guy, would probably prefer long sustained drives to quick strikes).
 
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are you people deaf or did you not hear Stoops say after the USCjr game he directed Dawson on the last clock killing drive to only run the ball, absolutely no passing? so clearly he has had strong input & influence on the offense, in that case directly. and I have no doubt he influenced the emphasis on power running up the middle as being a frequent play in our offense....as is his right! the name on the head coaches office says "Stoops" not "Dawson".
 
I love how Dawson approaches the media. I like his demeanor. I generally like his answers.

Like the media or not, they ask a boatload of ridiculous questions. I don't know if it's people trying to be difficult or lack of material. Interviews with coaches have gotten so bad that I rarely even watch them.

As for asking a question about missing a block or dropping a pass, LOL!!!! The last OL that never missed a block was Mr. Didn't Exist. The same player was the last guy to never drop a pass.

As for Dawson, I like him. I like his offense. I'm confident he'll do better. People should remember this is his first year at UK, and he wasn't the primary play caller at WVU. Lots of new stuff right now for Dawson. And frankly, I think a lot of plays have been there. The team just failed to execute. People will like his offense a lot more when the offensive personnel make plays more consistently!

GBB!!!
 
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The media most certainly does not protect Jurich or anyone else in UofL athletics. That is the biggest lie that is constantly being tossed out. Why do you think so many of us UofL fans dropped our subscriptions to the CJ?

Who reads the CJ anymore? This thing called the internet was invented a few years ago where info is at your fingertips. I know you probably only get to use payphones in jail but if you ever get out, they have these smartphones too.
 
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