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Dawson and the Press

If they were to tight in the Florida game which I can see happening, what happened in the 2nd half of ull an uscjr games??? This is part of my beef with the Florida game...the problem was exposed in the first two games and now we are to believe it will be fixed?? If so why did it take a lose to get it fixed,or adjustments made to address it...
 
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gsayers said:
Kyle Tucker tweets, "Coach Dawson doesn't like our questions."

Kyle you forgot to finish the sentence. "Coach Dawson doesn't like our questions because they're stupid."

I love a leader who puts the press on their heels. This was a very non coach speak interview.


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Apparently you love a "leader" who isn't forced to deal with the press questioning their decisions.

None of those questions were out of line and they were being said by many fans post Florida game.

His offense has ranged from being garbage to piss poor for 8 of the 12 quarters of play this season. If he doesn't like those questions, nut up and quit sucking.
 
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I've got to say we heard about the Air Raid lineage. I had visions of te James Whalen and RB Anthony White helping our WR catch balls coming back. Nope. Not much of a playbook. Very conservative. Been disappointed. No Air Raid no scoring. Don't get feisty coach. D is playing winning football.
 
Maybe the UF game was a wake up call for Coach Dawson. Hopefully he has some plays that can counter the defense being able to:
-edge rush our QB on obvious passing downs with little to no TE or RB blocking help
-Stack the box and bring the LB's up on 1st and 2nd down or any time we are inside the 5 yd line
-disregard the middle 3rd of the field on pass plays
-disregard the QB on the read option run plays.

If I know these things, imagine how much more the opposing defenses know.
 
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Chipping the d end with a rb then have the rb leek out as a safety valve would be a start...throw screens..like to see play action rollout and have a te or fullback leekout behind the lb..
 
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Nobody making 500k is above being questioned. Acting out like that is unprofessional. Disappointed in how he handled it.
 
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ktbug said:
Nobody making 500k is above being questioned. Acting out like that is unprofessional. Disappointed in how he handled it.
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Kev, you and I agree 90% of the time, and I agree that anybody making 500k is not above being questioned. But I watched a fair portion of that interview and did not think he was out of line. I have seen a hell of a lot worse from coaches, who are similar to a lot of Federal Judges, i.e., have zero patience for being questioned or second guessed.

What minute mark are you referring to? When he asked the reporter if he had ever made a mistake? That is pretty innocuous if that is the issue.
 
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JasonS. said:
Remember the Shannon Dawson honeymoon? It lasted two quarters.
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Haha, where are all the folks who insisted we had a major upgrade in OC's this year? Now dont anyone jump on me, I've been a professed fan of Dawson since his hire. But it was silly in the offseason all the people who trashed Neal Brown based on his 2 years here.....welp maybe you people are starting to realize that the struggles he had are some of the same ones Dawson is now dealing with?

As for that little exchange, no problem with the press or Dawson. Dawson looks like he has had some sleepless nights since Sat; love that our OC takes our struggling offense that personally. I think he is dealing with a boss who instructed him at the start of this season to run the ball maybe more than Dawson would prefer too in order to protect a shaky defense - but now maybe Stoops has more confidence in his defense and will allow his OC to cut the offense loose a little more.

And I love that unlike other programs Coach Stoops isnt insecure and allows his OC & DC stand up in front of the press and answer questions instead of them being hidden away in the basement film room insulated from the fans hearing from them.
 
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Tskware said:
Kev, you and I agree 90% of the time, and I agree that anybody making 500k is not above being questioned. But I watched a fair portion of that interview and did not think he was out of line. I have seen a hell of a lot worse from coaches, who are similar to a lot of Federal Judges, i.e., have zero patience for being questioned or second guessed.

What minute mark are you referring to? When he asked the reporter if he had ever made a mistake? That is pretty innocuous if that is the issue.
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I see a lot of confidence to the point of arrogance which can be good..The sec defensive coordinators have a way of humbling you..If he can use it as motivation and admit he needs to make changes then follow thru it can be a growing experience... But if he is arrogant and refuses to make the changes then he will get embarrassed...
 
So many people here want coaches to kiss the a**es of the media, frankly, I'm glad they don't. Ultimately, the coaches know more than the media does, and they sure as hell know more than the fans. Those of you who are crying about conservative offense are the same ones who are crying about Towles being a turnover machine (which would naturally make aggressive play a bit more difficult to do).

I agree that nobody making 500k+ a year is above being questioned, but all the same, prove to me that somebody that makes 50k a year is qualified to question the person being paid all of that money to make the decisions, and for that matter, even if the person is qualified, which one is more knowledgeable between the media (or fan for that matter), or the coach?

Now, all of that said, I watched Dawson's interview in its entirety, and at no point did I feel like he was even slightly out of line with his response to the questions being asked. Was he short with the media? Yes, but he also doesn't revolve his schedule around them, and he has to be short with them. If they want to ask more questions, he can't sit and chat it up about the weather.
And as for the one curse word he said in the interview, if that offends some of you, it's time to grow up a bit and actually walk outside, where you'll indefinitely hear it constantly. It's nothing that he didn't do before coming here, he did it at West Virginia, he'll do it here.


JHB4UK said:
Haha, where are all the folks who insisted we had a major upgrade in OC's this year? Now dont anyone jump on me, I've been a professed fan of Dawson since his hire. But it was silly in the offseason all the people who trashed Neal Brown based on his 2 years here.....welp maybe you people are starting to realize that the struggles he had are some of the same ones Dawson is now dealing with?
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I'm right here. I still think Neal Brown was not, by any measure, a good offensive coordinator for Kentucky. He attacked Patrick Towles by nature of his playcalling. Towles struggles with intermediate throws, so what does Neal Brown, offensive genius extraordinaire do? Throw 20 f***ing screen passes per game, and run it up the gut with the QB 22 other times. Kentucky is not Georgia Tech. If we're going to be running it that many times with a QB, give me a triple option or something, but no, Brown insists that the key to success is a QB sneak up the gut on 4th and 10 on your last possession on the last game of the season.
Here you are trying to commend Brown for the pitiful job that he did after 2 years, only to do what, say that Dawson can't get it done after 3 games? Give me a break.

Neal Brown - 2 years
Shannon Dawson - 3 games
 
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JasonS. said:
We sure could have used a few QB runs (designed or not) and screens on Saturday. That would have won the game.

Florida won the game with a (freshman, no less) pocket passer making plays with his legs.
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Picoro on the radio commentary said that Towles & UK could have gained huge yards all night long if the QB kept the ball & went around end when we went with read-option plays.

but it is obvious through 3 games that unlike Brown Dawson does not want his QB running the ball at all unless it is a completely broken passing play.
 
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Ahhh, how refreshing. Bashing the OC. A time honored tradition, as they say.
Love ya, coach... Win or win.
Let's keep this jury out for a while.
But, where's the fun in that on a message board?
Resume fire!
 
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Still like the guys attitude and style and try to keep in mind this is his first go around as well with total control of play calling, so I'll give him some time to "let it happen" like he said. But hope that part of his MO going forward is to use the pass to run a little more, especially on first down. Seems to be a little stuck on run or take a shot and forgotten about the short middle game.

The only thing I didn't like in that interview was when he acknowledged todays defenses are geared to create pressure and disrupt the QB yet said that's why you have to take shots downfield. I'm of the opinion that you don't have take shots downfield in those situations but can punish pressure defenses just as much by spreading the field and using short dump offs to your skill guys and say go chase em boys. Would have made me feel better to hear him mention those options to deal with pressure situations and not just "take shots".
 
gsayers said:
Kyle Tucker tweets, "Coach Dawson doesn't like our questions."

Kyle you forgot to finish the sentence. "Coach Dawson doesn't like our questions because they're stupid."

I love a leader who puts the press on their heels. This was a very non coach speak interview.


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I do not get Tucker's tweet. Dawson handled himself well and I loved his answers.
 
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JasonS. said:
We sure could have used a few QB runs (designed or not) and screens on Saturday. That would have won the game.

Florida won the game with a (freshman, no less) pocket passer making plays with his legs.
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UF was getting pressure up the middle and off the edge. The holes when they collapsed the pocket were not as great as the holes our defense was giving Grier when we got pressure.
 
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JasonS. said:
We sure could have used a few QB runs (designed or not) and screens on Saturday. That would have won the game.

Florida won the game with a (freshman, no less) pocket passer making plays with his legs.
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Grier was the number 2 ranked dual threat QB in class according to rivals. He is not a slouch by any means.
 
Rockford said:
Ahhh, how refreshing. Bashing the OC. A time honored tradition, as they say.
Love ya, coach... Win or win.
Let's keep this jury out for a while.
But, where's the fun in that on a message board?
Resume fire!
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I guess the "message board" concept has escaped you.:grimace:

Since when is discussing considered "bashing"?
 
The_Godfather said:
Apparently you love a "leader" who isn't forced to deal with the press questioning their decisions.

None of those questions were out of line and they were being said by many fans post Florida game.

His offense has ranged from being garbage to piss poor for 8 of the 12 quarters of play this season. If he doesn't like those questions, nut up and quit sucking.
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Agreed. Dawson looks hung over in that interview. Could he be in-over his head in the SEC? Only time will tell. He needs to find a way to provide more protection on passing plays. Not one reporter asked that.
 
The media should be asking tough questions, if the coach wants it or not. So many on here cry about how Tom Jurich and company are protected by the Louisville media and how they don't go after them but want the media to be cumbaya here at UK. You can't have it both ways.

Frankly, didn't see anything wrong with either side during the exchange. Saw the media looking for answers and a coach trying to stand up for himself and players
 
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Agreed. Dawson looks hung over in that interview. Could he be in-over his head in the SEC? Only time will tell. He needs to find a way to provide more protection on passing plays. Not one reporter asked that.
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Dawson looks hung over? Haha ahh man.
 
JHB4UK said:
Picoro on the radio commentary said that Towles & UK could have gained huge yards all night long if the QB kept the ball & went around end when we went with read-option plays.

but it is obvious through 3 games that unlike Brown Dawson does not want his QB running the ball at all unless it is a completely broken passing play.
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Piecoro was a " KICKER" who never kicked! So I really don't value his opinion!
 
I am encouraged after watching that interview. Some of the questions had given answers and it was obvious that they were asked simply to make him say out loud that some things didn't work. I believe he was a little annoyed by that. He is obviously no politician and I am fine with that.

I like the way he answered the questions about why we did or didn't do certain things. As fans, we tend feel like the coaches don't get it when they don't call the highest the play that is typically called in a given situation. Coach Dawson acknowledged that he would like to call those plays but gave reasons why he didn't. Fans only see a small piece of the picture. These coaches came here with good resumes and we just need to trust that they will make the best choices based on the wealth of information they have. After all, they want the same things that we do.
 
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Hard to call the plays you want to call when your QB isn't completing easy passes and your WR's are dropping balls and your o-line resembles matadors. But with that said, he still has to shoulder some of the blame with some of his play calls.
 
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Again for the umpteenth time,, the UK basketball fan base is one of the most intelligent in college sports,. On the other hand the football fan base is a psychiatrist dream. Outside of a few on this football site, the majority haven't a clue about SEC football. They react first usually fueled with a beverage of choice. No one seems to understand building a competitive SEC football program takes at least five years. Yet, the fan base wants it now as if CMS can work a miracle in three years. I understand the frustration. I've been a fan since 1953.

Either you're in or you're out. Regardless CMS and his staff, and his very talented players will get the job done. When the winning begins, many of you who cry, bitch and moan about UK football will come back and declare I was always a fan.
 
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JHB4UK said:
Haha, where are all the folks who insisted we had a major upgrade in OC's this year? Now dont anyone jump on me, I've been a professed fan of Dawson since his hire. But it was silly in the offseason all the people who trashed Neal Brown based on his 2 years here.....welp maybe you people are starting to realize that the struggles he had are some of the same ones Dawson is now dealing with?

As for that little exchange, no problem with the press or Dawson. Dawson looks like he has had some sleepless nights since Sat; love that our OC takes our struggling offense that personally. I think he is dealing with a boss who instructed him at the start of this season to run the ball maybe more than Dawson would prefer too in order to protect a shaky defense - but now maybe Stoops has more confidence in his defense and will allow his OC to cut the offense loose a little more.

And I love that unlike other programs Coach Stoops isnt insecure and allows his OC & DC stand up in front of the press and answer questions instead of them being hidden away in the basement film room insulated from the fans hearing from them.
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It was the popular thing to do to trash Neal Brown and proclaim Dawson as the savior this offseason, but myself and a handful of others continued to defend Brown (and get ripped in the process).

I know one thing. Brown is looking better and better by the day. That's not taking anything away from Dawson because I think he'll turn out to be a solid hire once he gets a couple years of play calling experience under his belt, but when looking back at what Neal Brown had to work with and how many points he put up on some of the best defenses in the nation last year, it was absolutely ridiculous how much criticism he received.

Brown was a solid offensive coordinator and we were lucky to have him. I get the feeling that he has to be sitting down there at Troy and having a chuckle now that our fans realize he was doing just about the absolute best he possibly could with what he had to work with last year. Could you imagine if Brown's offense had this year's defense (and this year's improved players across the board)?
 
Tskware said:
Kev, you and I agree 90% of the time, and I agree that anybody making 500k is not above being questioned. But I watched a fair portion of that interview and did not think he was out of line. I have seen a hell of a lot worse from coaches, who are similar to a lot of Federal Judges, i.e., have zero patience for being questioned or second guessed.

What minute mark are you referring to? When he asked the reporter if he had ever made a mistake? That is pretty innocuous if that is the issue.
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That is what I saw. The questions were vanilla and he seemed pissed. I am behind this staff, but the press has been very good to Stoops and vice-versa. He had a look in his eyes that looked as if he wanted to rip their heads off. The reporters were just doing their job.
 
Dawson has always been like this with the media. And this is one of his tamer interviews. My advice to those that have a problem with it, don't listen or watch. Tune it out. He isn't going to change.
 
If he's this salty after the first loss then he needs to work on his media relations skills . Either wound too tight or a little too sensitive , probably a case of young combined with first oc job has him defensive. Relax Dawson , a long ways to go still .
 
Xception said:
If he's this salty after the first loss then he needs to work on his media relations skills . Either wound too tight or a little too sensitive , probably a case of young combined with first oc job has him defensive. Relax Dawson , a long ways to go still .
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Get salty Dawson!!
 
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