With a solid draft and with the recent signing of George Pickens, the Cowboys are poised to have a good season. I am going to go with 14-3 regular season and an appearance in the Super Bowl. Thoughts?
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At the absolute best, you're splitting with Philly and Washington.. So that's 2 losses.. but safer bet is 3 or 4 losses. Giants are probably 2 wins, but I see no reason to believe that Dallas isn't firmly 3rd in that division, which means you're getting a 6 or 7-seed, no matter what. That's the ceiling unless something unforeseen happens.
And it's not like Dallas was crushing it when Dak was healthy.. 3-5.. or 3-4 if you will, not counting the game he got injured. That's not good. Adding Pickens doesn't just make Dallas go from a middling .500 team to a 1-2 seed in the conference lol.
And it's not like Dallas was crushing it when Dak was healthy.. 3-5.. or 3-4 if you will, not counting the game he got injured. That's not good. Adding Pickens doesn't just make Dallas go from a middling .500 team to a 1-2 seed in the conference lol.
Pickens is very talented but is an immature diva who is looking to be paid as much as the top 5 WRs in the league. He may end up as a one year rental for the Cowboys (this is the last year of his contract). The Steelers have traded several problem WRs who went on to be headaches or busts for other teams (Antonio Brown, Chase Claypool and Dionate Johnson). The good news for the Cowboys if he leaves after one year, is that he would likely bring a third round compensatory draft pick.
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Did Jerry and Dak leave? If not then I am doubtful they will make it past the first game of the playoffs....if they make the playoffs and that is coming from a Cowboys fan.
Even in the worst years they split with Philly and USUALLY sweep Washington, though they are stout currently. Also, not just the Dak injury, SEVERAL starters on offense / (mainly) defense missed significant time. Pickens is a HUGE signing. He is the long ball threat that will free up Cee Dee from double teams he faced because Dallas didn't have a #2 WR that was worth a shit. They also will get several guys back from injury, rebuilt the O-Line and solidified the defense with key additions and will be healthy. Pickens is a MAJOR upgrade over Tolbert (2nd behind Lamb in yards with 610) will be much better as the #3. KeVontae Turpin (All 5-6 150 lbs. of him) was the #3 WR with 512 yards. He is a return specialist and was playing WR2. Cooks stayed injured and hardly played.
So the Cowboys went from WR1 - Lamb WR2 - Tolbert WR3 - Turpin to WR1 - Lamb WR2 - Pickens WR3 - Tolbert WR4 - Jonathan Mingo . Also Jake Ferguson is becoming a SOLID TE. Running game will be much better, Outside of Rico Dowdle who was solid, you had washed up Elliott. Now they have Javonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jaden Blue, and Phil Mafah.
I know they have struggled to get playoff wins and not ready to go way out on a limb and say 14-3 (not happening even if Washington wasn't so good), But 12-5 is very realistic. You act like they have been scrubs for 5/10 years.
2024 - 7-10 - Injuries derailed their season : Defensive players who at one time was on IR or ended the season on IR - DeMarcus Lawrence, DeMarion Overshown, DaRon Bland, Caelen Carson, Trevon Diggs, Chuma Edoza, Marshawn Kneeland, Micah Parsons (missed 6 full games). Offense : Dak (played 7 games), Brandin Cooks, Zack Martin. That doesn't factor in JUST games missed. NO defense losing that many key starters and depth could have survived. Take any team in the NFL, take their QB off it, what do ya got ?
2023 - 12-5 Won the East, split with Philly, swept Washington - Dak (17 games) 4,516 yards (70%) 36 TD's / 9 Ints.
2022 - 12-5 2nd in the East, split with Philly and Washington - Dak (11 games) 2860 yards (62%) 26 TD's / 14 Ints.
2021 - 12-5 Won the East, swept both Philly and Washington - Dak - (16 games) 4449 yards (69%) 37 TD's / 10 Ints.
Ehhh, this reads like one of those Yankee/Lakers/Duke/Cowboy fan takes. Not terrible, not great either. Washington is not Washington of two years ago, we all know that, let's not pretend they werent the most improved team last season. And I dont really want to hear about injuries, because so many teams can play that game and some teams have dealt with worse injuries. Some not as bad. Injuries happen, and there are plenty of times during the Cowboys HEALTHIER seasons, that they beat up on injured teams.
I think the WR room definitely got better, but still remains to be seen how Pickens (..and Lamb) will handle this. Dak's coming off a major injury, Oline is better but very young still, and no more Zach Martin. I do like Jake Ferg, thats a solid TE.
What I don't think got any better is RB room.. Javonte and Miles Sanders? That's just not enough. Sanders is cooked, and Javonte just hasn't been the same since his season ending injur in Denver. I do like how well Rico Dowdle played. But, he will be game-planned for, and it remains to be seen if he's in any way a top RB, as opposed to being like, a 14th to 20th kind of guy.
There's a lot of copium here. I don't think they are scrubs. But the facts are facts, they were not looking great last year even when Dak was healthy. It SEEMS like they were a team stepping back from their early years with Dak and Zeke/Pollard. 12 wins is about the ceiling for me, but again, they are probably losing 3 games to Philly/Washington alone.. and I honestly wouldn't count out a split with the Giants. In division alone you're looking at 3-4 losses.
Positive outcome :
Home Games - (7-1 / 6-2)
Giants - W
Eagles - L (the teams usually split home / home, but will give Philly the W.
Commanders - W (Split the season games, losing at Washington)
Packers - W
Chiefs - W (Chiefs will start to fall back, not just to the Cowboys)
Chargers - W
Vikings - W (Vikings take a big step back)
Cardinals - W
Away Games : (5-4) no huge upsets counted.
Giants - W
Eagles - L
Commanders - L
Bears - W
Broncos - L
Lions - L
Raiders - W
Jets - W
Panthers - W
So 12-5 / 11-6. I will bet HUGE on win total over 8. Even if they lose some games they should win (will also win one or two they should lose), 9-8 is the floor. 7-10 last year with tons of injuries and no WR help. Lost some close games, 3 to Ravens, 6 @ San Fran, 6 @ ATL, 7 to Bengals (terrible 50 yard bomb in final minute, by 4 to Washington the last game of the year. Just win 2 of those and the over covers.
Home Games - (7-1 / 6-2)
Giants - W
Eagles - L (the teams usually split home / home, but will give Philly the W.
Commanders - W (Split the season games, losing at Washington)
Packers - W
Chiefs - W (Chiefs will start to fall back, not just to the Cowboys)
Chargers - W
Vikings - W (Vikings take a big step back)
Cardinals - W
Away Games : (5-4) no huge upsets counted.
Giants - W
Eagles - L
Commanders - L
Bears - W
Broncos - L
Lions - L
Raiders - W
Jets - W
Panthers - W
So 12-5 / 11-6. I will bet HUGE on win total over 8. Even if they lose some games they should win (will also win one or two they should lose), 9-8 is the floor. 7-10 last year with tons of injuries and no WR help. Lost some close games, 3 to Ravens, 6 @ San Fran, 6 @ ATL, 7 to Bengals (terrible 50 yard bomb in final minute, by 4 to Washington the last game of the year. Just win 2 of those and the over covers.
This has to be a gimmick, right?
Like a parody of Cowboys fans who think they’re winning a ring every year but haven’t advanced to the conference championship game since the invention of the DVD player?
They’ll either go 12-6 ish and lose in embarrassing fashion in January or will be terrible and then next year will be the year. Or the year after that. Repeat for decades.
Cowboys ain’t winning anything again until
Jerry dies or sells the team.
Like a parody of Cowboys fans who think they’re winning a ring every year but haven’t advanced to the conference championship game since the invention of the DVD player?
They’ll either go 12-6 ish and lose in embarrassing fashion in January or will be terrible and then next year will be the year. Or the year after that. Repeat for decades.
Cowboys ain’t winning anything again until
Jerry dies or sells the team.
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This is a yearly thread, right? I mean I think I saw a version of this thread last year.
I said "no playoff guarantees". I have learned my lesson as a Cowboys fan. BUT, I said their over / under win total of 8 is free money. 9-7 I think is the floor, 12-5 the ceiling. I truly think Pickens will help the offense a great deal and on defense just getting the several injured starters back they will be solid. By when the playoffs start, all bets are off. Been a Cowboys fan since I was 5 (52 years). I have seen it all, great, good, bad, mockery, laughing stock, you name it. But I will keep on keeping on, no bandwagon fan in my blood.
I think that's relatively fair. I think they will be good enough to be in the top half of the league, for sure. I just think Philly only got better, and Washington is on the rise.. Cowboys COULD get to 11, maybe 12 wins, but its going to take probably 13 or 14 wins to take the division.
I also think the Giants are gonna be improved. Probably only a 7 or 8 win team, but they may have the best past rushing ability of any team in the league now with Carter, Banks and K.Thibs. And when you have a team thats top3 in some phase of the ball like this, they are going to steal wins. They have who I think is on his way to being a top5 WR in Nabers, and they actually have a serviceable QB. Running game wont be bad either with Skattebro. So while I expect the Cowboys to beat them twice, I don't think thats automatic either.
And this is coming from a Giants hater, mind you. Although I don't hate them as much as I used to.
I've been a Cowboys fan over 55 years.
Hopefully: 12 wins.
Reality: 10 wins, if lucky. All bets off if defense still broke. Heard nothing about running back room improvements.
Hopefully: 12 wins.
Reality: 10 wins, if lucky. All bets off if defense still broke. Heard nothing about running back room improvements.
Counting on guys who have never played a game in the NFl (Skattebo and Carter) is reaching. There is a reason Skattebo went so late in the draft. I do think the Giants secondary will be better, they is their weakness. K. Thibs kind of regressed last year, maybe too much attention. "Serviceable QB" does not win NFL games.
The O-Line, RB's, aging washed up QBs, and WR help for Nabers will amount to about the same results for the NYG. Not to mention they have Brian Daboll leading it all. Wandale and Slayton are not true WR2s. Wandale is nothing more than a screen / line of scrimmage pass receiver. I see the Giants being in the 5/6 win area. By the way, Washington's O/U win total is 9.5. teams will adjust to Daniels. Not to mention their schedule is brutal.
Not because I am a Cowboys fan, but I think the over 7.5 wins for the Cowboys is free money. Washington's defense will cost them some games, I saw one prediction of 8.2 wins.
Don't really agree with a lot of this, and why is it that you can list rookie RBs for Dallas but I can't for the Giants? I also see no real discernible difference between Dowdle and Tracy. They're both going to be middle of the pack running backs. Dowdle MIGHT be a spot or two better but nothing to write home about.
Russ is certainly able to win them some games. He is better than Daniel Jones and Tommy Cutlets who were still able to win like 3 or 4 games.
That's not to say I think the Giants are better than Dallas lol. Nor do I think they're making the playoffs, but I think they will improve and I don't think its out of the question to think they couldn't split the series with Dallas, who isn't exactly rolling out a top flight coach, either.
The sore loser is back among us. When things go sideways with your poser teams, you fade away. Good luck
NFL just released Cowboys at Eagles week 1. Sounds like an 0-1 start for the Cowboys.
Well I didn't say that ONE of the RB's would be a star either did I ? Also, pretty sure the Cowboys O-Line, QB, and WR's, TE's are better than the NYG. What I am saying is, with their offense, you don't have to have a stud guy carry the load. RB by #s in the Cowboys offense is a LOT better than having A rooking try to carry the team with that shitty O-Line and WR group.
LOL, Russell Wilson win games ? He will be lucky Famous Jameis doesn't take his job before week 4.
Adding 40 year old Russell Wilson and a 4th/5th round rookie RB will definitely vault the NYG from 31st in the NFL in points per game (16 ppg), into the upper tier of scoring teams. That is some Brian Daboll way of thinking.
I mean the Steelers thought so much of Wilson's ability and performance last year, the let him walk and willing to take their chances on an even older, washed up, drama queen QB Aaron Rogers.
I mean the Steelers thought so much of Wilson's ability and performance last year, the let him walk and willing to take their chances on an even older, washed up, drama queen QB Aaron Rogers.
But you listed them, all the same. Just like I did. And FWIW Cam Skattebo was a pretty hot name in the draft and went higher than Dallas 5th and 7th round RBs. No idea if he's going to be legit.. but he's a very intriguing pick who could blow up, and is a big reason why everyone loved the Giants draft.
Also, Cam isn't their starting RB, not sure why you think he is. Tracy is their #1. And him and Dowdle are basically lock step in their stats, with Dowdle getting more yards, but only because of more attempts.
I do agree that Dallas has a much more well rounded offense, basically across the board (outside of RB, in which both teams are in the mid-to-low tier in terms of RB rooms).. which is why I expect them to win more games.
Where did I say NYG were going to become some premier team? Sometimes I think you screw up your medication dosage.
No, I made it a point to list the RB room had depth. Funny, you are so damn high on Tracy, you didn't even mention his name.
"I think the running game won't game won't be bad either with Skattebo", if Tracy is so damn good, why didn't you mention him ? I NEVER stated ANY Dallas RB would be good, just they now have depth and a actual RB room. But my point remains, with the Dallas passing ability, the RB will not have to worry about teams stacking the box. Come on man, you are an intelligent poster, you know a RB in the Dallas offense has a better chance of succeeding than in the NYG offense. More weapons a team has, the harder it is for a defense to key on someone. With Dak back, adding Pickens, improving the O-Line, the running game will be better than last year by default. Simply by having less attention focused on it, more depth, and better O-Line play.
My point about your last quote of mine, I wasn't really saying you said the Giants would become premiere. I simply stated with what they ADDED from last years team, does suddenly change them from the #31 ranked offense last year. I do not think they are that much better to get to the 7/8 wins you think they can. Defense was average last year, offense was trash. With the offense the Giants had / have , a average / middling defense can't win games. Scoring only 16 points per game, their D will not win them many games. Nabers IS legit, we agree on that.
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Well guess that settled it. Dallas is the favorite to fall on thier face as always.
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