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Dabo Sweeney

Dabo has never been anything but a cheerleader, nothing wrong with that. But all his success came under Derrick Watson and Trevor Lawerence. They recruited well, but he has refused to use the portal, is against NIL and loves being on camera. He is a huge hypocrite when it comes to recruiting, not allowing Clemson recruits to take visits but continually tries to get commits to other schools to visit Clemson.

I don't know who they play other than FSU, but 4 losses is a real possibility. But he has some equity, and isn't likely Bama is calling.
Deshawn Watson.
 
One more interesting Dabo stat:

66-4 - record with either Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence as his starter
95-36 - record with someone else as his starter

Reminds me of Rich Rodriquez at WVU:

32-5 - record with Pat White as his starter
28-21 - record with someone else as his starter
LOL. Sweeney's record WAY better there. 95-38 equates to 8.5-3.5 each year when he has less than top talent.
 
And before them, he had Taj Boyd.

And had those coordinator or St least venerable. Clemson gave 70 points in the Orange bowl under Dabo with Kevin Steele as DC. ironic that the 2 P5 schools in South Carolina are 2 of the few who has a head coach who has never been a coordinato
 
One more interesting Dabo stat:

66-4 - record with either Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence as his starter
95-36 - record with someone else as his starter

Reminds me of Rich Rodriquez at WVU:

32-5 - record with Pat White as his starter
28-21 - record with someone else as his starter
95-36 reminds you of 28-21?
 
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95-36 reminds you of 28-21?
No, it reminds me of two coaches who were exponentially better when they had a generational talent at QB. Dabo has won about 22% more of his games with Watson and Lawrence and Rich Rod won about 28% more of his games with Pat White.
 
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He won 11 games last year. He's fine.
One more interesting Dabo stat:

66-4 - record with either Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence as his starter
95-36 - record with someone else as his starter

Reminds me of Rich Rodriquez at WVU:

32-5 - record with Pat White as his starter
28-21 - record with someone else as his starter

So basically, he wins regardless of who's QB.

I mean, jesus...I wish we had a coach who could win 72% of his games with non-star/"someone else" QBs...as do most programs.

Dabo had great coordinators and 2 generational college QBs back to back. without all of those pieces of the puzzle he is a 6-6 coach like he was pre Venerables and Watson. That super church in town didn't hurt either.

I think that's a fair assessment of just about any coach who's hit a lick in any sport. Great talent, great staff.

What's Bill Belichick without Brady?

What's Nick Saban without a roster full of first rounders and top assistants?

Who is Lincoln Reilly without the QBs he's had and currently has?

Best season we UK fans have seen for a long while and CMS has had...healthy Will Levis and Liam Coen...

Who's Jimbo Fisher without Dalvin Cook, Jamis Winston...

Dabo did what the best coaches at this level do. Built a staff, built a roster, found top QBs.

Nobody out there is winning at a high level with slack jaws and half asses.

Kirby's one of the best in the game and I think he may pass Saban...but he isn't doing it with 6-6 talent. He's got the best staff and best talent.
 
He won 11 games last year. He's fine.


So basically, he wins regardless of who's QB.

I mean, jesus...I wish we had a coach who could win 72% of his games with non-star/"someone else" QBs...as do most programs.



I think that's a fair assessment of just about any coach who's hit a lick in any sport. Great talent, great staff.

What's Bill Belichick without Brady?

What's Nick Saban without a roster full of first rounders and top assistants?

Who is Lincoln Reilly without the QBs he's had and currently has?

Best season we UK fans have seen for a long while and CMS has had...healthy Will Levis and Liam Coen...

Who's Jimbo Fisher without Dalvin Cook, Jamis Winston...

Dabo did what the best coaches at this level do. Built a staff, built a roster, found top QBs.

Nobody out there is winning at a high level with slack jaws and half asses.

Kirby's one of the best in the game and I think he may pass Saban...but he isn't doing it with 6-6 talent. He's got the best staff and best talent.

Saban, Belichick have done it while replacing multiple coaches over their careers. Dabo has yet to recover from losing 1 coordinator. Kirby hasn't done it after replacing multiple coaches. Riley doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the other coaches, he is the only one with multiple Heisman winners who hasn't won anything.

I have never said Kirby was doing anything without elite talent. But in many people's view qb is the most important position on the field, Kirby didn't have a superstar at QB in fact very few respected Bennett as a P5 QB, doesn't have one now either.

My point is, Dabo hasn't won anything, without the top QB in college at the time. And while he ultimately ended up with great coordinators, it appears he lucked into those because he hasn't repeated it like Saban and Belichick have over decades.

If Kirby left I had rather promote Glenn Schuman, UGA's DC, to head coach than hire Dabo.
 
So basically, he wins regardless of who's QB.

I mean, jesus...I wish we had a coach who could win 72% of his games with non-star/"someone else" QBs...as do most programs.
There is a difference between elite and good. With those 2 guys at QB (arguably the best in the game for a number of seasons), his teams have finished the season ranked 1st - 4th in the country every one of those seasons. Without those guys at QB, his teams have finished:

Unranked
24th
Unranked
22nd
11th
8th
15th
16th
13th
Unranked (most likely this year)

1 top 10 finish in 10 years. Again, still a good program, but that's more of a Penn State/James Franklin and Utah/Kyle Wittingham type of program.
 
There is a difference between elite and good. With those 2 guys at QB (arguably the best in the game for a number of seasons), his teams have finished the season ranked 1st - 4th in the country every one of those seasons. Without those guys at QB, his teams have finished:

Unranked
24th
Unranked
22nd
11th
8th
15th
16th
13th
Unranked (most likely this year)

1 top 10 finish in 10 years. Again, still a good program, but that's more of a Penn State/James Franklin and Utah/Kyle Wittingham type of program.
So basically, a perennial top 25 program...I'll take that tomorrow and so will everyone else except UGA and Bama fans.
 
So basically, a perennial top 25 program...I'll take that tomorrow and so will everyone else except UGA and Bama fans.

Not true at all, all the coaching changes in the SEC and all over ghe country prove that just isn't true. UF, UT, ATM, LSU, AU and OM fans are not happy being top 25. The 2 teams you named and the 2 teams coming next year won't be either. I don't t hink UK is either but you put it in ghat group. Most teams will have a goal of making 12 team playoffs, which will very likely all be top 25 teams.
 
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He won 11 games last year. He's fine.


So basically, he wins regardless of who's QB.

I mean, jesus...I wish we had a coach who could win 72% of his games with non-star/"someone else" QBs...as do most programs.



I think that's a fair assessment of just about any coach who's hit a lick in any sport. Great talent, great staff.

What's Bill Belichick without Brady?

What's Nick Saban without a roster full of first rounders and top assistants?

Who is Lincoln Reilly without the QBs he's had and currently has?

Best season we UK fans have seen for a long while and CMS has had...healthy Will Levis and Liam Coen...

Who's Jimbo Fisher without Dalvin Cook, Jamis Winston...

Dabo did what the best coaches at this level do. Built a staff, built a roster, found top QBs.

Nobody out there is winning at a high level with slack jaws and half asses.

Kirby's one of the best in the game and I think he may pass Saban...but he isn't doing it with 6-6 talent. He's got the best staff and best talent.
Would you say the 2018 Terry Wilson lead team was better/worse than the 2021 Will Levis team?
 
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