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I didn't see a thread on it, what are your thoughts on letting the clock run out instead of trying to score before the half? And was booing justified?
 
I thought the booing was a little over the top (and I am not a guy who thinks that the crowd should never boo the home team). We got out of the shadow of our own goalpost, and got it out to the 30. The pressure on every snap was pretty high on Pat, we get the ball back first series of second half, so I didn't think it was an awful decision by stoops.
 
Stoops addressed that in the post-game radio show. He talked about how important it was to get out of the half with the situation intact and not take any big risks. He said if we had gotten a big run or something he was ready to go....but he didn't want to give anything away. I think he was right...people who really know football know he was right.

There are always people yelling "go for it" on 4th downs, even in your own territory with like 4th and 3. I cut them a break cause they are excited by the game, but I always wonder if they are just REALLY casual fans or if they are just caught up in the game.
 
The same fans who yell as the qb is trying to audible on the line. Why risk turning it over when you get the ball to start the half?
 
I trust the coaches. Maybe they felt like they needed to get some things corrected before the attempt to go down field quickly but OTOH it looked at that point to be a field goal game, and having a chance to get into field goal range with a kicker that has a big leg seemed to be the logical move.
 
I would love to see a major college football program adopt the statistical advantage that never kicking the ball gives a team... like the high school team in Arkansas that rolls everyone up by never giving other teams the ball on purpose. play every offensive snap to score and odds are the good plays will heavily outweigh the bad...
 
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I wasn't there so I wasn't booing, but I wasn't in favor of milking the clock. We had been moving the ball well and with our propensity of coming out of the half and laying an egg after the opponents make adjustments, I thought we needed to strike while the iron was hot. If we scored there and then get the ball back with momentum on our side to start the second half, there would have been a ton of pressure on Missouri.

Unfortunately we milked the clock and did our usual disappearing act to start the second half. That made things look like a replay of every other game this year. Luckily they finally opened up the offense in the second half and we made enough plays to win. We are much better when being aggressive then conservative.
 
I was one who was disappointed we had some good play calling to get out of the shadow of our own goal posts only to get ultra conservative. There was a minute and some change left. What message is that sending to your team??? That you dont trust them. One of the things lacking with our offense the past few years is a fluid looking 2 minute drill of any type. We always wastes lots of time. In the Florida game we had the ball with around 2 minutes to go for the win. We looked like we had never been there before. I thought we should have used the time to be more agressive. Esp when teams are in yhe prevent. The only thing i thought was more confusing was why Missouri didnt call time out and make us punt . They had 2 left. You can't duplicate a real 2 min offense in practice. So i feel we gave up a golden opportunity. We won so nothing else matters
 
I trust the coaches. Maybe they felt like they needed to get some things corrected before the attempt to go down field quickly but OTOH it looked at that point to be a field goal game, and having a chance to get into field goal range with a kicker that has a big leg seemed to be the logical move.

This and the fact we still had 2 TOs in our pocket, we could have at least tried to get in FG range and go in at half up 3 instead of tied up.
 
A standard way to approach this situation is to call a rather conservative run play. If he breaks off a decent run then possibly you could go for it. If not you retain the ball to run out the clock. This is what they did.
 
I trust the coaches. Maybe they felt like they needed to get some things corrected before the attempt to go down field quickly but OTOH it looked at that point to be a field goal game, and having a chance to get into field goal range with a kicker that has a big leg seemed to be the logical move.

Moving into a 15 mph wind. Don't forget that.
 
I think so people confuse a video game for real life. If you were at the game you surely noticed a pretty stiff wind blowing toward the west end zone. Mizzu's last kickoff provide evidence of that. The chances of UK getting into field goal position was minimal. You don't lose the game at the end of the first half.
 
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I wasn't there so I wasn't booing, but I wasn't in favor of milking the clock. We had been moving the ball well and with our propensity of coming out of the half and laying an egg after the opponents make adjustments, I thought we needed to strike while the iron was hot. If we scored there and then get the ball back with momentum on our side to start the second half, there would have been a ton of pressure on Missouri.

Unfortunately we milked the clock and did our usual disappearing act to start the second half. That made things look like a replay of every other game this year. Luckily they finally opened up the offense in the second half and we made enough plays to win. We are much better when being aggressive then conservative.
Thanks coach...we'll put your strategies in place from now on
 
I didn't see a thread on it, what are your thoughts on letting the clock run out instead of trying to score before the half? And was booing justified?
I admit that I had a WTF? moment at the end of the first half but you only have to watch the rest of the game to see that Stoops was right. If you're stuffing your opponents run game, and we were, there's no reason to take chances.

As for booing I'm a believer that it NEVER accomplishes anything positive, never. I will say that given the circumstances you probably would have heard some booing in 95% of the stadiums in America and while I doubt that it figured into Stoops decision, he couldn't have been surprised when some booing did occur.
 
I would love to see a major college football program adopt the statistical advantage that never kicking the ball gives a team... like the high school team in Arkansas that rolls everyone up by never giving them the ball on purpose. play every offensive snap to score and odds are the good plays will heavily outweigh the bad...
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And if you throw a pick there and Missouri scores the same fans would be booing as well. Coaches don't listen to the boos and can't. What a lot of people don't realize is a lot of these decisions are made before the game and charted. That is done to keep coaches from making bad decisions based on emotions.
 
I trust the coaches. Maybe they felt like they needed to get some things corrected before the attempt to go down field quickly but OTOH it looked at that point to be a field goal game, and having a chance to get into field goal range with a kicker that has a big leg seemed to be the logical move.

This and the fact we still had 2 TOs in our pocket, we could have at least tried to get in FG range and go in at half up 3 instead of tied up.

Plenty of time to run the two minute drill there, should have taken a few shots down field.

I didnt boo, but I was definitely disappointed. Tie game, ball on the 30, 2 TO's - you cannot just pack it in. 2 TO's and the clock stopping on 1st downs gives a team plenty of time to get into FG range at least; or set up for a hail mary.
 
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As I mentioned in another thread, once we got the ball out around mid-field I thought it was a good time to test our two minute offense.
 
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Ky fans have always been able to bring the venom. On TV the crowd was louder at the end of the half when it was booing the hell out of the offense then at anytime I heard when Mizzou had the ball, except right after pick six that was called back.
 
I'd like to see coaches be more aggressive and kick less; but I believe the statistical advantage to never kicking is likely flawed because the data for teams that
 
At the time (when I was watching the game), I was upset that we didn't try to get some points. However, like other posters have said, it was an overall smart move, particularly because it was safe.

No problems now (not sure how I would feel if we lost the game :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:).
 
I love the internet coaches on this site. we had seven points the whole half and now we're going to
quickly get into FG range with about a minute to go. Heck if we're that good on offense it makes even more sense to wait for a better opportunity. The booers at the game were matched by the booers online. People are so desperate for a win they lose all common football sense.
 
Don't think the players or the coaches paid any attention to the booing. That's just as it should be
 
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As I mentioned in another thread, once we got the ball out around mid-field I thought it was a good time to test our two minute offense.

Were you actually watching? We got as far as the 29 and snapped the ball with 53 seconds. Now it would not have been terrible to try a pass at that point but the risk/reward was not very good. Would have had to get at least 35 yards for a long try. The coaches obviously had more faith in the team going tied into the second half than all those who wanted to throw caution to the wind.
 
I've watched the replay twice now and have looked again to see if it made any sense to take the risk opening it up given the field position, the time, the wind, the flow of the game, etc., etc. I've concluded that Vince Lombardi, Bear Bryant, Don Shula, Nick Saban, Chuck Noll, Knute Rockne, Tom Landry, Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick and Alonzo Stagg would have all made the same call as Coach Stoops......and I've concluded that those same fans would have still booed, lol.
 
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Coaches play to win by whatever strategic means they feel is in the best interest of the team's ability to out score the opponent. Fans everywhere have their opinions which are fine.

At the end of the day, we won over a quality opponent. This was a defining moment in the process of creating a consistently competitive SEC football program. There are many steps ahead to achieve this most challenging goal.

We are at long, long last going down a road we've never taken to achieve a goal both elusive and yet becoming more clearly possible.
 
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Stoops addressed that in the post-game radio show. He talked about how important it was to get out of the half with the situation intact and not take any big risks. He said if we had gotten a big run or something he was ready to go....but he didn't want to give anything away. I think he was right...people who really know football know he was right.

There are always people yelling "go for it" on 4th downs, even in your own territory with like 4th and 3. I cut them a break cause they are excited by the game, but I always wonder if they are just REALLY casual fans or if they are just caught up in the game.

Oh really? So the only people who know football are the people who agree with you? Good to know. That wasn't a smart or dumb decision, either way was fine, people who know football know that.
 
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Thanks coach...we'll put your strategies in place from now on
What a dick thing to say.

I didn't like the call. If I was in charge we would try to score. But of course I would of done the same thing coming out of the half instead of trying to milk the clock.
 
Towles throws a pick 6 and there would be 7 threads about how terrible he is and how stupid Stoops is...


People around me,were booing and I told them it was a good decision by Stoops. I personally don't care if people booed. They pay a lot of money like I do.
 
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Oh really? So the only people who know football are the people who agree with you? Good to know. That wasn't a smart or dumb decision, either way was fine, people who know football know that.

On this issue...yes. People who know football would agree with Coach Stoops (and me.)
 
Towles throws a pick 6 and there would be 7 threads about how terrible he is and how stupid Stoops is...

Nailed it! Hell, it wouldn't even need to be a pick six. Three incompletions and give Missouri a field goal and the booers would start the threads you mentioned.
 
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When I heard the booing, I told my wife that we must have a lot of message board people around us because they have the same football I.Q. I assumed we would try a couple of running plays and if one got us to the 40 we would take a couple of shots. Otherwise, we go into the locker room tied and getting the ball back in the second half. I am pretty sure that most coaches coaching this team would have done the same thing in a similar situation. To warrant booing, it would have had to obviously been a bad call. It probably was the right call. That's what makes the low I.Q fans look foolish.
 
I love the internet coaches on this site. we had seven points the whole half and now we're going to
quickly get into FG range with about a minute to go. Heck if we're that good on offense it makes even more sense to wait for a better opportunity. The booers at the game were matched by the booers online. People are so desperate for a win they lose all common football sense.

I was there and thought it was the right call, Missouri's defense had played well all half, no reason to think we are going to go 60 yards in two minutes, the risk/reward factor was not in our favor. Booing at the half of a tied game v. a top 25 team is beyond stupid (and I have booed UK a few times, but that was ill informed fans doing it Sat night)
 
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I was at the game and thought it was a good decision, but for those who say the coaches or players pay no attention to the booing I don't agree. Coach brought it up on the post game show, he asked Leach(I think) if the fans were booing him. Seemed kinda hurt by it actually. Then he explained his decision. So,, he definetly heard!
 
Pretty bad when you think about it. Sitting at 2-1 and tied with 25th ranked team and btw the team that is coming off back to back east championships and our coach gets booed off the field at halftime. Like someone else mentioned it was the loudest the place was all night except when they were booing the pick 6 that was called back. I can see a few people booing but that had to be over half the stadium.
 
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