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Cousins trade rumors.

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Who knows whats a smokescreen and whats real at this point in trade and draft talks. Here is one that I think may have legs though.

Cousins to the Lakers for the Lakers #2 pick. A few things behind the scenes that may be giving this legs. First George Karl does not like Cousins as a player. Said so a week after he took over the head coaching job at SAC.

Second is Kobe Bryant loves Cousins game and has made it known in public that the Lakers should trade to acquire Cousins.

Will it happen? Hard to say, but I have a sense it has some legs to the story.
 
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Any team would be dumb to trade Boogie, but I would love for him to get out of Sac town. Best center in the league in my eyes.
 
I could see the logic in that. Assuming Towns goes first and they take Okafor, they would basically be trading for a younger player that does many of the same things he does, but would hopefully be happy there. And Demarcus could be the next Laker great if he keeps his dang head on straight.
 
I could see the logic in that. Assuming Towns goes first and they take Okafor, they would basically be trading for a younger player that does many of the same things he does, but would hopefully be happy there. And Demarcus could be the next Laker great if he keeps his dang head on straight.
One thing we know about Boogie is that the guy hates to loose. No matter what he hates to loose. Kobe is the same. If Demarcus has the right leadership (Kobe) side by side with him he well might be the best center in the NBA. (Hell he probably is already) Think of the press coverage he gets with the Lakers. Personally Id love to see it,,,,
 
The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.
 
The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.
A number of reasons immediately come to mind. Kobe is definitely on his last legs, and Cousins would give him one last shot at competing for a title.

Cousins has actually proven what he can do in the league. Okafor may be great, or he may not be able to make the adjustment (same for Karl too). If you can get a guaranteed superstar for a draft pick, you make that trade.
 
The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.

Wow what insight.
 
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Wow what insight.
So your saying Okafor and or Towns is better than Boogie? They maybe someday, but that day aint today. Boogie is at this moment in time better than either. He may not be in 2-3 years but he is today. Actually Im not sure if its even close today.
 
The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.


I guess I owe your post a little more than "wow what insight".

I don't care what opinion you may have a Cuz though it would seem that being a UK fan you may tone down the media take on Cousins since it is fabricated in that the media acts and portrays Cousins play on court to his personal life away from basketball. As a UK fan you must know and admit Cousins is nothing but a "high character" guy and a "good character" guy to boot. It irks me to no end that UK fans who saw this kid in person and up close for a season could still repeat BS Crap about him as though he is a remake of Rodman or Iverson. he is SO far from that so please think a little before you repeat the crap about him. Note: Sacramento gave him a max contract so he must not be that bad. other teams want him so I guess I have more proof that he is decent than you have he is not.

Now on to George Karl; (This is strictly about basketball as I am aware of the physical ailments he has had.)

If you ask me he is a poor man's Bobby Cox of the Atlanta Braves minus his one championship in how many times at the dance with great players?.... If that is what you want, that is what you get. Nuff said.
 
It would be interesting. As a Lakers fan I'm not sure what I'd want them to do. I really like Towns and think he will fall to the Lakers if the T-Wolves really like Okafor as much as they say. Towns plays great D and will be good on O. Of course, Cousins is a machine. If the Lakers could trade for Cousins and acquire Love...that would be a nice front court.
 
So your saying Okafor and or Towns is better than Boogie? They maybe someday, but that day aint today. Boogie is at this moment in time better than either. He may not be in 2-3 years but he is today. Actually Im not sure if its even close today.

Man, read the next post. :) I am so much in the Cuz corner you'd think I was his Daddy.
 
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The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.
Disagree completely. Cuz is already what Okafor could be in a couple years. And if he's happier than he was in Sacramento, the attitude could very well not be a problem.
 
Cuz is the better version of Okafor....Cuz is better than majority of #1 picks.

If Lakers get Cuz for #2 pick, that's a major steal.
 
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Now on to George Karl; (This is strictly about basketball as I am aware of the physical ailments he has had.)

If you ask me he is a poor man's Bobby Cox of the Atlanta Braves minus his one championship in how many times at the dance with great players?.... If that is what you want, that is what you get. Nuff said.

1996 Sonics were the best team the Jordan era Bulls played. Maybe he's underachieved some, but only in relation to his regular season success. Most good coaches don't win titles, and winning a title is not required to be an excellent coach.
 
The Lakers would be stupid to do that trade. Okafor or Towns are both good character guys who have great post games. Why trade the rights to them for a guy that has a history of attitude problems.
Cousins is 24 ppg ,13rb, 78% FT, second team all Nba this year and is only 24 yo.He's already at where KAT and Okafors ceiling is, if this actually has legs ,the Lakers would be stupid not to do it.
 
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Cousins is 24 ppg ,13rb, 78% FT, second team all Nba this year and is only 24 yo.He's already at where KAT and Okafors ceiling is, if this actually has legs ,the Lakers would be stupid not to do it.
The only argument that could be made for not making this trade is that the Lakers are building for the future.

If they can get Okafor or Towns on a rookie contract for 4 years. Go through the growing pains with Randle and their rookie, and pick up a few more draft picks along the way. Then in 5 years they could be in a position to compete for their division, conference, titles.

I've never thought of the Lakers as being that patient though.
 
1996 Sonics were the best team the Jordan era Bulls played. Maybe he's underachieved some, but only in relation to his regular season success. Most good coaches don't win titles, and winning a title is not required to be an excellent coach.

I never had any use for Karl, but I guess he has never had any use for me. He seemed to be a coach first type coach and I am a player first type fan... :)

We will have to agree to disagree. btw I graduated in 79 too if that is what the 79 means? May be your age though... :) Be Good
 
1996 Sonics were the best team the Jordan era Bulls played. Maybe he's underachieved some, but only in relation to his regular season success. Most good coaches don't win titles, and winning a title is not required to be an excellent coach.

There are some UK fans that would disagree with your last statement. But I agree it's tough to win a title no matter who you are.
 
If your the Lakers do you go after Lamarcus Aldridge?

I go for the trade for Cuz if possible and Aldridge or Love. There is no one in this draft that has potential he does. And as someone said before, their ceiling is where he is now.

Add those two to Kobe and the all-rookie team guy who's name is slipping me plus Randle and the rest of their cast and you have a great nucleus.
 
Kobe is definitely on his last legs, and Cousins would give him one last shot at competing for a title.
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Sorry, but this is nonsense. Even with Cuz that woeful Laker roster is nowhere remotely close to being able to complete for a title. This more likely would merely give Kobe a chance to finish on a team that is average instead of awful.
 
Sorry, but this is nonsense. Even with Cuz that woeful Laker roster is nowhere remotely close to being able to complete for a title. This more likely would merely give Kobe a chance to finish on a team that is average instead of awful.
Sorry, maybe I should have been more clear. That would be the Laker's organization's justification for going after Cousins. Thinking that it would give them a chance at a title with Kobe back..... and if the 2010 Kobe where there it might be enough with him and Cousins. But overall I agree, the rest of the roster is a mess.
 
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If I were deciding between townes and cousins, I would pick Townes. Huge upside and great attitude in every facet....
If deciding betwen okafor and cuz...i go cuz easily...cuz is dominant now.
I believe townes is surest thing in draft....booker next at his particular spot in draft whatever it ends up being.
 
The Lakers are a mess but the Knicks a
Disagree completely. Cuz is already what Okafor could be in a couple years. And if he's happier than he was in Sacramento, the attitude could very well not be a problem.

What does JJ say in your gif file at the bottom of your posts?

Lakers are a mess but they could be in good shape quickly depending upon if they can make a smart move or two. Lots of free agents this year and next.
 
The Lakers are a mess but the Knicks a


What does JJ say in your gif file at the bottom of your posts?

Lakers are a mess but they could be in good shape quickly depending upon if they can make a smart move or two. Lots of free agents this year and next.
Not a clue. It's Deandre Jordan wiping his booger on him that cracks me up.
 
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I don't think LA is a much better situation. They have no idea what they are doing either.
 
Who knows whats a smokescreen and whats real at this point in trade and draft talks. Here is one that I think may have legs though.

Cousins to the Lakers for the Lakers #2 pick. A few things behind the scenes that may be giving this legs. First George Karl does not like Cousins as a player. Said so a week after he took over the head coaching job at SAC.

Second is Kobe Bryant loves Cousins game and has made it known in public that the Lakers should trade to acquire Cousins.

Will it happen? Hard to say, but I have a sense it has some legs to the story.


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The only argument that could be made for not making this trade is that the Lakers are building for the future.

This is my argument as to why I wouldn't think the Lakers would do that trade. I agree Cousins is better player now than Okafor and Townes but the Lakers aren't going to be good enough next year even with Cuz to compete for a title. I personally like Cuz but he just doesn't seem to be able to get along with his coaches and if I'm the Lakers I would rather go for the high character player and build for the future. Personally I would trade up so I could draft Townes.
 
Cousins is 24 ppg ,13rb, 78% FT, second team all Nba this year and is only 24 yo.He's already at where KAT and Okafors ceiling is, if this actually has legs ,the Lakers would be stupid not to do it.

Cousin's TS% was barely above league average for a center last season and his turnover rate is astronomical. He does a great job accumulating counting stats, but he still is not elite efficiency wise. By 24, I could see both Towns and Okafor both being more efficient offensive threats.
 
Cousin's TS% was barely above league average for a center last season and his turnover rate is astronomical. He does a great job accumulating counting stats, but he still is not elite efficiency wise. By 24, I could see both Towns and Okafor both being more efficient offensive threats.
His player efficiency rating is 9th in the league.In 2014 he was 5th in the league.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics
 
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As a huge Lakers fan. LA isn't trading that pick I've read countless hours on who they will draft. LA wants Towns badly but Minnesota the rumor is they told Towns he will be the 1st pick. Which is why Towns has denied to workout with LA. Okafor will be the next Laker big. The issue is that Randle and Okafor isn't a good mix due to defensive issues.
 
A number of reasons immediately come to mind. Kobe is definitely on his last legs, and Cousins would give him one last shot at competing for a title.

Cousins has actually proven what he can do in the league. Okafor may be great, or he may not be able to make the adjustment (same for Karl too). If you can get a guaranteed superstar for a draft pick, you make that trade.

The Kobe Bryant train left the station years ago. There is no chance for him to compete for an NBA championship in LA next season - with or without Cousins on the roster. Bryant and the Lakers weren't able to be competitive three seasons ago with Howard on the team. Do you really think all of Bryant's degeneration which has occurred since then has made him a better player or the Lakers a better team?

Cross that argument off your list.
 
If we are going to bring up the Howard thing. Lets be honest about it. Nash got hurt like the 2nd game of the season. Howard was still recovering from his off season surgery. After the Allstar break Kobe and Howard had the best record in the league. Kobe injuries his Achilles and ruins the run. Its all about perspective not to just fit a certain agenda that they couldn't get it done.

That said the Lakers aren't competing till 2016 at the earliest and thats hoping for a KD showing in purple and gold.
 
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