Comedian thread
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Comedy suffered once the wokeness took over but it's making a comeback. Chapelle's Netflix standups signaled the comeback. Shane Gillis, IMO, is the funniest guy on the planet at the moment. Look up some Gilly and Keeves vids and prepare to laugh your butt off.
Love Anthony Jeselnik - dark humor but DGAF who he offends. One of those guys you go, 'Oh wow.' And then laugh your ass off.
Used to really like Christopher Titus and his brand of dark humor. The past few specials he's gone very political (anti-Trump, of course) and he's just not as funny. He was hilarious when talking about his family and romantic relationships. What he (or any other celebrity) thinks about politics is not so funny.
Saw the latest Jim Gaffigan special on Prime (I think). Mediocre. Seems like he's mining the same material for jokes. A few funny lines but it reminded me of old bands playing the same 20-song set note for note every night. Just OK and I used to really think he was clever and very funny. He's just OK now, imo.
Used to really like Christopher Titus and his brand of dark humor. The past few specials he's gone very political (anti-Trump, of course) and he's just not as funny. He was hilarious when talking about his family and romantic relationships. What he (or any other celebrity) thinks about politics is not so funny.
Saw the latest Jim Gaffigan special on Prime (I think). Mediocre. Seems like he's mining the same material for jokes. A few funny lines but it reminded me of old bands playing the same 20-song set note for note every night. Just OK and I used to really think he was clever and very funny. He's just OK now, imo.
Forgot - Jimmy Carr, a Brit comedian. VERY non-PC, even more so than Ricky Gervais, imo. But, clever and very funny. Raunchy so not for the squeamish at times. But funny. Several videos on YT (mainly short ones).
I need to check out Jeselnik's new Netflix special, because he's legit. However, I saw a few clips and I feel like he might be hitting his wall of "being the most offensive". A few jokes I feel like I already heard him tell. Hope it delivers.
Everyone here will likely agree that guys like Chappelle, Carlin, Segura and such, are near the top. A few that I don't see listed often, that I really like a lot: TJ Miller and Pete Holmes. I just like each's respective energy. They both have some great specials and actually seem like fun guys to be around. I think that makes for a good comedian. Shane Gillis has a lot of this as well.
I think Sebastian Monascalco is trash. His overtly "look at how jersey Italian I am!" bit got old after the first minute. Dude is ick.
Everyone here will likely agree that guys like Chappelle, Carlin, Segura and such, are near the top. A few that I don't see listed often, that I really like a lot: TJ Miller and Pete Holmes. I just like each's respective energy. They both have some great specials and actually seem like fun guys to be around. I think that makes for a good comedian. Shane Gillis has a lot of this as well.
I think Sebastian Monascalco is trash. His overtly "look at how jersey Italian I am!" bit got old after the first minute. Dude is ick.
I saw Jeselnik in Cincinnati this past Spring and it was pretty good. I’m looking at going to see Sam Morril at the beginning of the year, would love to see Shane Gillis and Nate Bargatze.
Doug Stanhope IS great. but he's also one of those comedians that can be really depressing and dark. He's kind of the anti-Pete Holmes. Both very funny in their own way, but IDK if I want to hangout with Doug hahaha.
A friend from NYC dated Morril for a little bit. I always love to bring it up as it's somewhat of a sore subject haha.
I personally like Nate Bargatze. He is funny and doesn't just curse to be cursing.
Richard Pryor.
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I’m a bit of a comedy nerd. Pretty much any time I’m driving alone or out of earshot of the kids I have on a comedy station on SiriusXM.
99 Raw Comedy is the one getting the most play right now because they seem to have a very large rotation of stars and also people who I haven’t heard of yet.
95 Comedy Central pretty much has the same few clips on over and over unless they have a special that has recently come out.
93 Netflix has a very wide catalog but they overdo it with the diversity. For example, Vir Das is a funny guy, but they must play his Ramayana bit 10 times a day. They also have a few female comedians that you can easily tell it’s just a laugh track and the audience either isn’t there at all or isn’t laughing.
Jeselnik’s new set is pretty OK. He got a couple of new thoughts, but as stated above, it’s kind of the same material and cadence re-packaged.
Top five for me overall would be Bargatze, Kyle Kinane, Pete Holmes, John Mulaney (although he’s funnier when he’s on drugs) and Rory Scovel.
Old guys: My dad had/has all of the old Cosby stand up albums and I grew up on those. Even though he’s apparently a giant pile of human dog shit, I’ll still have a soft spot for him. Carlin doesn’t do it for me. His stuff got too preachy as he got older. Pryor was hilarious for the time, but I don’t think it carries over that well.
Guys I wish were still alive or still doing comedy: Saget, Bernie Mac, Patrice O’Neal, Greg Giraldo, all gone too soon. Whatever Hannibal Burress is doing now doesn’t hit for me and I wish he’d go back to regular standup.
There is one comedian, however, that I can say has always made me laugh, and that is Lavell Crawford. I could listen to his albums and clips every day and not get tired of it.
99 Raw Comedy is the one getting the most play right now because they seem to have a very large rotation of stars and also people who I haven’t heard of yet.
95 Comedy Central pretty much has the same few clips on over and over unless they have a special that has recently come out.
93 Netflix has a very wide catalog but they overdo it with the diversity. For example, Vir Das is a funny guy, but they must play his Ramayana bit 10 times a day. They also have a few female comedians that you can easily tell it’s just a laugh track and the audience either isn’t there at all or isn’t laughing.
Jeselnik’s new set is pretty OK. He got a couple of new thoughts, but as stated above, it’s kind of the same material and cadence re-packaged.
Top five for me overall would be Bargatze, Kyle Kinane, Pete Holmes, John Mulaney (although he’s funnier when he’s on drugs) and Rory Scovel.
Old guys: My dad had/has all of the old Cosby stand up albums and I grew up on those. Even though he’s apparently a giant pile of human dog shit, I’ll still have a soft spot for him. Carlin doesn’t do it for me. His stuff got too preachy as he got older. Pryor was hilarious for the time, but I don’t think it carries over that well.
Guys I wish were still alive or still doing comedy: Saget, Bernie Mac, Patrice O’Neal, Greg Giraldo, all gone too soon. Whatever Hannibal Burress is doing now doesn’t hit for me and I wish he’d go back to regular standup.
There is one comedian, however, that I can say has always made me laugh, and that is Lavell Crawford. I could listen to his albums and clips every day and not get tired of it.
Let's get into the meat of this argument:
Chappelle has passed Richard Pryor. Only recently. I didn't think Chappelle was ahead of him until he released his special "Sticks and Stones" which not only can be considered amongst the best stand up specials in this era/generation.. but because it was 20 years after his first hour-long and also critically acclaimed special "killing them softly". 20 years difference, to still be that funny and relevant, amazes me. And beyond because he's had a few other specials since that were also good.
You couple the fact that he was able to make this come back, WITH his writing, the Chappelle Show, his own movies. I think he's past Richard Pryor right now.
But I can also acknowledge Pryors important ancestors especially to Chappelle.. and Chappelle wouldn't be here if not for Pryor. So I don't want to downplay Pryors important either.
I just watched Live on the Sunset Strip a few weeks ago, for the first time in probably twenty years, so I might be a tad biased, lol.
Chappelle would most certainly be 1A for me, without question.
Its probably a generational thing. And I didn't live "through" the time that Pryor was big. But for me, I see the way Chappelle spear-headed the trans bullshit a few years ago, during cancel culture era and that just put him over the edge for me. I was on a bach party when that Netflix special dropped, and we had it playing in the background the entire time.
To me, it's almost like Chappelle has had two HOF careers. And I still think we have more to see from him.
Love him. Have yet to see him live though. Mark Normand is the quickest comedic mind out there right now imo.
