Coen's press conference

[gamecockcat]

Said all of the right things, imo. Sounds like the OL has improved and they're pleased with where they are right now, except he did mention RT still a position that someone needs to earn.

I wonder why no one seemingly ever asks about the backup QB and where that competition stands. Obviously, we hope Leary plays 99% of the meaningful snaps (means he's stayed healthy) and the backups get plenty of work as we're running opponents out of the stadium and everyone's playing. But, many fans (me, included) would really like to hear from LC how the backup QB situation is playing out. Since Leary has injury history, I'd sure like to know we have a capable backup to win some games with. Any other sites talking about who is QB2, QB3 and how they're looking?

 

[Jayintoledo]

Said all of the right things, imo. Sounds like the OL has improved and they're pleased with where they are right now, except he did mention RT still a position that someone needs to earn.

I wonder why no one seemingly ever asks about the backup QB and where that competition stands. Obviously, we hope Leary plays 99% of the meaningful snaps (means he's stayed healthy) and the backups get plenty of work as we're running opponents out of the stadium and everyone's playing. But, many fans (me, included) would really like to hear from LC how the backup QB situation is playing out. Since Leary has injury history, I'd sure like to know we have a capable backup to win some games with. Any other sites talking about who is QB2, QB3 and how they're looking?

I'm definitely interested in this info also.

 

[mrschwump]

Said all of the right things, imo. Sounds like the OL has improved and they're pleased with where they are right now, except he did mention RT still a position that someone needs to earn.

I wonder why no one seemingly ever asks about the backup QB and where that competition stands. Obviously, we hope Leary plays 99% of the meaningful snaps (means he's stayed healthy) and the backups get plenty of work as we're running opponents out of the stadium and everyone's playing. But, many fans (me, included) would really like to hear from LC how the backup QB situation is playing out. Since Leary has injury history, I'd sure like to know we have a capable backup to win some games with. Any other sites talking about who is QB2, QB3 and how they're looking?

I'd like to know too but unfortunately the KY sports media in a position to ask those questions are more interested in whether or not Wheeler ducked a team meeting 3 months ago or if CL/Ugo are going into the portal/draft??

 

[Uncle Adolph]

Folks the Lex media is lame

 

[mrschwump]

Folks the Lex media is lame

It didn't just start, has been that way for decades.

 

[maroon79]

LHL is a laughing stock

Has been since the early to mid 70s at lesst

 

[Blouman]

Folks the media is lame

There, I fixed it for ya.

 

[zwynn10]

Said all of the right things, imo. Sounds like the OL has improved and they're pleased with where they are right now, except he did mention RT still a position that someone needs to earn.

I wonder why no one seemingly ever asks about the backup QB and where that competition stands. Obviously, we hope Leary plays 99% of the meaningful snaps (means he's stayed healthy) and the backups get plenty of work as we're running opponents out of the stadium and everyone's playing. But, many fans (me, included) would really like to hear from LC how the backup QB situation is playing out. Since Leary has injury history, I'd sure like to know we have a capable backup to win some games with. Any other sites talking about who is QB2, QB3 and how they're looking?

Agree. Other schools have QB1 go down and still can run their offense. Our QB1 goes down and we have to limit our play sheet and hand the ball off except for bubble screens.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Said all of the right things, imo. Sounds like the OL has improved and they're pleased with where they are right now, except he did mention RT still a position that someone needs to earn.

I wonder why no one seemingly ever asks about the backup QB and where that competition stands. Obviously, we hope Leary plays 99% of the meaningful snaps (means he's stayed healthy) and the backups get plenty of work as we're running opponents out of the stadium and everyone's playing. But, many fans (me, included) would really like to hear from LC how the backup QB situation is playing out. Since Leary has injury history, I'd sure like to know we have a capable backup to win some games with. Any other sites talking about who is QB2, QB3 and how they're looking?

It does seem as if the reporters have agreed not to ask about the backup QBs. I was begging for that question when Coen was talking about Leary.

I also think Coen wants competition at the RT position, because he wants external forces to help motivate the eventual starter to be better. Davis mentioned Flax in that position, so I think we know who is 1 on the depth chart, but Buford and others (Jones was asked about, but Coen’s response was a bit ambiguous) need to keep pushing for that spot.

 

[Blues-Clues9]

I assume the Sheron kid will get listed as the backup until push comes to shove (Leary injured) and they’ll play Destin Wade to keep him happy thus keeping Keaton happy so they don’t transfer. Right?

 

[JHB4UK]

Wrong

No coaching staff in CFB is gonna play a worst QB, and reduce the chances of winning, just to keep the #3 QB & his brother who has potential but hasn't shown it in games yet from leaving

 

[CatPatrick13]

I assume the Sheron kid will get listed as the backup until push comes to shove (Leary injured) and they’ll play Destin Wade to keep him happy thus keeping Keaton happy so they don’t transfer. Right?

yeah like there is a huge difference between the 2..... veteran poster here gents....

 

[Blues-Clues9]

Wrong

No coaching staff in CFB is gonna play a worst QB, and reduce the chances of winning, just to keep the #3 QB & his brother who has potential but hasn't shown it in games yet from leaving

What about the bowl game against Iowa? You telling me Destin was our best option that day? 2 int’s in the first half, one for a touchdown the other way, incompletions bouncing off the turf and neither of the other back-ups come in until Hogan at the very end? Sheron doesn’t take a snap in that game after starting against USCjr?


I don’t know. It’s interesting. You’re lying to yourself if while watching that game you didn’t wonder for moment, even if fleeting, whether he was the best option we had that game. You had to have at least thought Sheron or Hogan would come in sooner than they did.

 

[JHB4UK]

From what I saw of Sheron - at home, with Chris Rodriguez, against a mediocre defense - in no way convinces me he would have been any more effective in a bowl game against one of the best defenses in all CFB.

Non playoff CFB bowl games are ultimately meaningless exhibition games. IMO Stoops wasn't trying to keep the Wade family happy. He had 2 basically equal young QBs, 1 had started and played a game (badly). No point running him out there again, and be clueless going into offseason how the other one plays. So Wade got the difficult assignment.

 

[Blues-Clues9]

From what I saw of Sheron - at home, with Chris Rodriguez, against a mediocre defense - in no way convinces me he would have been any more effective in a bowl game against one of the best defenses in all CFB.

Non playoff CFB bowl games are ultimately meaningless exhibition games. IMO Stoops wasn't trying to keep the Wade family happy. He had 2 basically equal young QBs, 1 had started and played a game (badly). No point running him out there again, and be clueless going into offseason how the other one plays. So Wade got the difficult assignment.

I think that’s where we are disagreeing. I thought Kaiya played rather well against USCjr given the obvious restraints he was under. C-Rod sure helped him out with that fumble-six to start the game. But from there he proceeded to go for 187 yards with 2 td’s and 1 int against a USCjr team that would go on to have a great year including an absolute waxing of UT.


For comparison’s sake here are Will Levis’ averages against SEC competition last season.

Passing yards- 176
TD- 1
Int- 1


Again, you tell me. Kaiya played poorly against USCjr?

 

[BigBlueManSouthCentralKY]

I think that’s where we are disagreeing. I thought Kaiya played rather well against USCjr given the obvious restraints he was under. C-Rod sure helped him out with that fumble-six to start the game. But from there he proceeded to go for 187 yards with 2 td’s and 1 int against a USCjr team that would go on to have a great year including an absolute waxing of UT.


For comparison’s sake here are Will Levis’ averages against SEC competition last season.

Passing yards- 176
TD- 1
Int- 1


Again, you tell me. Kaiya played poorly against USCjr?

Well also, the passing plays was so limited for KS. The coaches was trying to protect him all they could. Not a normal game at his position so considering that I thought he did the best he could with the situation. His competitive nature did show IMO and that is what I am looking at as far as positive vibes with his potential.

 

[gamecockcat]

I think that’s where we are disagreeing. I thought Kaiya played rather well against USCjr given the obvious restraints he was under. C-Rod sure helped him out with that fumble-six to start the game. But from there he proceeded to go for 187 yards with 2 td’s and 1 int against a USCjr team that would go on to have a great year including an absolute waxing of UT.


For comparison’s sake here are Will Levis’ averages against SEC competition last season.

Passing yards- 176
TD- 1
Int- 1


Again, you tell me. Kaiya played poorly against USCjr?

His stats are a bit misleading, though. As K-Time pointed out, until the last few minutes of the game, he'd thrown for <100 yards. Not exactly lighting it up. However, I do agree that the gameplan was pretty much doomed to fail and almost every play was either a run or a pass within 5 yards of the LOS. Very much a 'playing not to lose' plan vs. 'playing to win'. Honestly, I still don't know what the USC game indicated/proved about KS. First significant playing time, poorly designed gameplan, a pretty good defense, a completely bonehead first play that dug a hole, etc. He didn't seem to read the pocket real well as he rolled into the oncoming rush multiple times but had some good throws late (prevent coverage, admittedly).

As for Wade, he, too, was hampered by no CRod, a great defense, a gameplan that was vanilla, a first-time start, etc. He threw some bad passes, didn't look particularly elusive when scrambling but still had a few good plays, imo. I wasn't completely convinced that he wasn't SEC quality (or that he was, for that matter). Really a tough situation he was put into against a top 10 defense. Looked to me like he has some tools but just wasn't properly prepared to thrive in that situation (same for KS vs. USC).

Bottom line, we HAVE to have the backups prepared enough to come in and run a subset of plays efficiently so there's not this chasm of effectiveness between QB1 and everyone else. A backup doesn't have to be able to run the entire offense but should be able to master 10-20 plays (runs and passes) and should be effective enough that our offense just doesn't stop all together if the starter goes out.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I think that’s where we are disagreeing. I thought Kaiya played rather well against USCjr given the obvious restraints he was under. C-Rod sure helped him out with that fumble-six to start the game. But from there he proceeded to go for 187 yards with 2 td’s and 1 int against a USCjr team that would go on to have a great year including an absolute waxing of UT.


For comparison’s sake here are Will Levis’ averages against SEC competition last season.

Passing yards- 176
TD- 1
Int- 1


Again, you tell me. Kaiya played poorly against USCjr?

SC has a great defense too. They clobbered a very good ut team and really hurt their offense.

I agree ks and wade were about even. From there staff could go with either the guy with one game under his belt who looked good in spots or a complete unknown. They went with the latter imo to increase chances of retaining.

All that said, neither are ever going to be QB 1. Imo wade should immediately switch positions but I'm not sure to what. Sheron is a classical backup QB and hopefully we can keep him for that reason.

 

[JHB4UK]

SC has a great defense too.

Huh? No they ain't.

Fact check, USCjr 2022 was 10th out of 14 in the SEC in total defense

cfbstats.com - 2022 Southeastern Conference Team Leaders

www.cfbstats.com

Sheron played poorly against a mediocre defense, at home, with #1 running back. And don't anybody dare put that opening play bullspit clown call from Scan on CRod.

Bottom line, this is a pointless debate. I am 100% confident neither Sheron or Wade will be 2024 UK starting quarterback. Our next year starter isn't on the roster right now.

 

[Blues-Clues9]

Huh? No they ain't.

Fact check, USCjr 2022 was 10th out of 14 in the SEC in total defense

cfbstats.com - 2022 Southeastern Conference Team Leaders

www.cfbstats.com

Sheron played poorly against a mediocre defense, at home, with #1 running back. And don't anybody dare put that opening play bullspit clown call from Scan on CRod.

Bottom line, this is a pointless debate. I am 100% confident neither Sheron or Wade will be 2024 UK starting quarterback. Our next year starter isn't on the roster right now.

The debate was the reason the staff chose to start Destin. My assertion is it was to keep Destin happy so as to keep Keaton happy so neither would transfer. If you don’t think coaches operate that way with today’s open season for transferring then you aren’t paying attention.

The Wade twins are from Tennessee and to not start in front of their home state would have been risky given the recent success of UT and the free transfer. You disagree, fine.